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  • Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nettleman


    anybody getting quotes on cull cows, im still at 3.25 R's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    im getting 3.65 for under and over steers

    which is equivalent to 3.70 for the under and 3.60 for the over


  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭locha


    where

    Both abp clones and Liffey are on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Nettleman wrote: »
    anybody getting quotes on cull cows, im still at 3.25 R's.

    Should be getting 3.40 for rs
    3.20 os


  • Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nettleman


    simx wrote: »
    Should be getting 3.40 for rs
    3.20 os
    agreed, agent's getting too cockie..blood tests done, off to mart...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭morana


    From DAFM



    "If you have any queries on this press release please contact info@agriculture.gov.ie

    145/14 13th October 2014

    MINISTER COVENEY LAUNCHES BEEF PRICEWATCH APP

    Detailed information on factory prices provided direct to mobile devices

    The Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Simon Coveney T.D., today launched the new “Beef PriceWatch” App. The application, developed by his Department for smartphones, tablet computers and other mobile devices, will provide users with up-to-date information on the average price paid for animals in 24 of the DAFM approved meat factories throughout the country.

    The App is available for your mobile device at https://publicapps.agriculture.gov.ie/bpw

    Speaking at the launch of the App, Minister Coveney said “I’m very pleased to make the new PriceWatch App available free of charge to Irish beef producers and the wider sector. This App takes much of the existing price information already available and makes it more user-friendly. Now, at the click of a button, farmers can immediately see the prices paid for different categories of cattle in their factory of choice for the most recent week. This information on prevailing price trends means that Ireland is now one of the most transparent EU Member States when it comes to providing accessible information on prevailing price trends”.

    The development of this App was one of the key commitments the Minister made arising from the Beef Roundtable discussions that he chaired during the year. “Of course, it is only one small piece in the jigsaw, but I’m convinced that the added transparency provided through the App will be welcomed by everyone in the sector. As in any business, beef producers need access to current data on market developments and the App will be the conduit for this information. Today’s announcement marks another milestone in the list of commitments arising from the Beef Roundtable”.

    The “Beef PriceWatch App” provides, each week, the average price at national and individual factory level for Steers, Heifers, Cows, and Young and Old Bulls. It presents beef producers with a comparison for a representative group of animals in each category, such as the average R3 price for Steers and Heifers, and the average U3 price for Young Bulls. Behind these representative prices, the user is one click away from detailed information, at factory level, for prices across the entire 15 x 15 beef carcass classification grid.

    Minister Coveney explained that “the App essentially gives farmers access to data across 225 different carcase grades, and shows the prices paid for all of the different grades slaughtered in each factory, each week. The information for the previous week will be updated on the App every Wednesday night”.

    Acknowledging the meat factories’ role in making this information available, the Minister added “I am particularly pleased that, for the first time, we are now in a position to report detailed information on the price paid for young bulls at each of the different factories. The production of young bulls, which would not have been traditional practice in Ireland, has experienced some difficulties in recent times. This additional information will go a long way to improving transparency for those farmers operating young bull production systems”.

    Finally, the Minister noted that there was already an array of price and statistical information available through the Beef PriceWatch portal on the homepage of his Department’s website at http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/beef/beeffactorypricesweeklyreports/2014/ This includes a weekly Meat Market Report showing detailed information on slaughter numbers, live exports and prices for the year-to-date.

    Concluding the Minister said: “The launch of this App marks Ireland out as being way ahead of the rest of the EU member states in terms of the price information being made available and this App reinforces that position. As with any App, we will of course be adding more features over time and I would encourage any stakeholders to get in touch if they have feedback on the current version or suggestions for future versions”.

    Note for Editors
    The representative grades used for the headline average prices for each animal category are as follows:

    Steers = R3
    Heifers = R3
    Cows = O4
    Young Bulls = U3
    Bulls = O2

    These were selected based on the percentage of animals in each category that fall within the (for instance) R+3- and R-3+ range of conformation and fat classes, and with the reference prices usually quoted by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine.

    Details of the App will be sent via text message to every farmer in the country over the coming days.


    ENDS"


  • Registered Users Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    morana wrote: »
    From DAFM



    "If you have any queries on this press release please contact info@agriculture.gov.ie

    145/14 13th October 2014

    MINISTER COVENEY LAUNCHES BEEF PRICEWATCH APP

    Detailed information on factory prices provided direct to mobile devices

    The Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Simon Coveney T.D., today launched the new “Beef PriceWatch” App. The application, developed by his Department for smartphones, tablet computers and other mobile devices, will provide users with up-to-date information on the average price paid for animals in 24 of the DAFM approved meat factories throughout the country.

    The App is available for your mobile device at https://publicapps.agriculture.gov.ie/bpw

    Speaking at the launch of the App, Minister Coveney said “I’m very pleased to make the new PriceWatch App available free of charge to Irish beef producers and the wider sector. This App takes much of the existing price information already available and makes it more user-friendly. Now, at the click of a button, farmers can immediately see the prices paid for different categories of cattle in their factory of choice for the most recent week. This information on prevailing price trends means that Ireland is now one of the most transparent EU Member States when it comes to providing accessible information on prevailing price trends”.

    The development of this App was one of the key commitments the Minister made arising from the Beef Roundtable discussions that he chaired during the year. “Of course, it is only one small piece in the jigsaw, but I’m convinced that the added transparency provided through the App will be welcomed by everyone in the sector. As in any business, beef producers need access to current data on market developments and the App will be the conduit for this information. Today’s announcement marks another milestone in the list of commitments arising from the Beef Roundtable”.

    The “Beef PriceWatch App” provides, each week, the average price at national and individual factory level for Steers, Heifers, Cows, and Young and Old Bulls. It presents beef producers with a comparison for a representative group of animals in each category, such as the average R3 price for Steers and Heifers, and the average U3 price for Young Bulls. Behind these representative prices, the user is one click away from detailed information, at factory level, for prices across the entire 15 x 15 beef carcass classification grid.

    Minister Coveney explained that “the App essentially gives farmers access to data across 225 different carcase grades, and shows the prices paid for all of the different grades slaughtered in each factory, each week. The information for the previous week will be updated on the App every Wednesday night”.

    Acknowledging the meat factories’ role in making this information available, the Minister added “I am particularly pleased that, for the first time, we are now in a position to report detailed information on the price paid for young bulls at each of the different factories. The production of young bulls, which would not have been traditional practice in Ireland, has experienced some difficulties in recent times. This additional information will go a long way to improving transparency for those farmers operating young bull production systems”.

    Finally, the Minister noted that there was already an array of price and statistical information available through the Beef PriceWatch portal on the homepage of his Department’s website at http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/beef/beeffactorypricesweeklyreports/2014/ This includes a weekly Meat Market Report showing detailed information on slaughter numbers, live exports and prices for the year-to-date.

    Concluding the Minister said: “The launch of this App marks Ireland out as being way ahead of the rest of the EU member states in terms of the price information being made available and this App reinforces that position. As with any App, we will of course be adding more features over time and I would encourage any stakeholders to get in touch if they have feedback on the current version or suggestions for future versions”.

    Note for Editors
    The representative grades used for the headline average prices for each animal category are as follows:

    Steers = R3
    Heifers = R3
    Cows = O4
    Young Bulls = U3
    Bulls = O2

    These were selected based on the percentage of animals in each category that fall within the (for instance) R+3- and R-3+ range of conformation and fat classes, and with the reference prices usually quoted by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine.

    Details of the App will be sent via text message to every farmer in the country over the coming days.


    ENDS"

    it says ththe prices are final prices paid

    do they include 12 cent qa payment???????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    morana wrote: »
    From DAFM



    "If you have any queries on this press release please contact info@agriculture.gov.ie

    145/14 13th October 2014

    MINISTER COVENEY LAUNCHES BEEF PRICEWATCH APP

    Detailed information on factory prices provided direct to mobile devices

    The Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Simon Coveney T.D., today launched the new “Beef PriceWatch” App. The application, developed by his Department for smartphones, tablet computers and other mobile devices, will provide users with up-to-date information on the average price paid for animals in 24 of the DAFM approved meat factories throughout the country.

    The App is available for your mobile device at https://publicapps.agriculture.gov.ie/bpw

    Speaking at the launch of the App, Minister Coveney said “I’m very pleased to make the new PriceWatch App available free of charge to Irish beef producers and the wider sector. This App takes much of the existing price information already available and makes it more user-friendly. Now, at the click of a button, farmers can immediately see the prices paid for different categories of cattle in their factory of choice for the most recent week. This information on prevailing price trends means that Ireland is now one of the most transparent EU Member States when it comes to providing accessible information on prevailing price trends”.

    The development of this App was one of the key commitments the Minister made arising from the Beef Roundtable discussions that he chaired during the year. “Of course, it is only one small piece in the jigsaw, but I’m convinced that the added transparency provided through the App will be welcomed by everyone in the sector. As in any business, beef producers need access to current data on market developments and the App will be the conduit for this information. Today’s announcement marks another milestone in the list of commitments arising from the Beef Roundtable”.

    The “Beef PriceWatch App” provides, each week, the average price at national and individual factory level for Steers, Heifers, Cows, and Young and Old Bulls. It presents beef producers with a comparison for a representative group of animals in each category, such as the average R3 price for Steers and Heifers, and the average U3 price for Young Bulls. Behind these representative prices, the user is one click away from detailed information, at factory level, for prices across the entire 15 x 15 beef carcass classification grid.

    Minister Coveney explained that “the App essentially gives farmers access to data across 225 different carcase grades, and shows the prices paid for all of the different grades slaughtered in each factory, each week. The information for the previous week will be updated on the App every Wednesday night”.

    Acknowledging the meat factories’ role in making this information available, the Minister added “I am particularly pleased that, for the first time, we are now in a position to report detailed information on the price paid for young bulls at each of the different factories. The production of young bulls, which would not have been traditional practice in Ireland, has experienced some difficulties in recent times. This additional information will go a long way to improving transparency for those farmers operating young bull production systems”.

    Finally, the Minister noted that there was already an array of price and statistical information available through the Beef PriceWatch portal on the homepage of his Department’s website at http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/beef/beeffactorypricesweeklyreports/2014/ This includes a weekly Meat Market Report showing detailed information on slaughter numbers, live exports and prices for the year-to-date.

    Concluding the Minister said: “The launch of this App marks Ireland out as being way ahead of the rest of the EU member states in terms of the price information being made available and this App reinforces that position. As with any App, we will of course be adding more features over time and I would encourage any stakeholders to get in touch if they have feedback on the current version or suggestions for future versions”.

    Note for Editors
    The representative grades used for the headline average prices for each animal category are as follows:

    Steers = R3
    Heifers = R3
    Cows = O4
    Young Bulls = U3
    Bulls = O2

    These were selected based on the percentage of animals in each category that fall within the (for instance) R+3- and R-3+ range of conformation and fat classes, and with the reference prices usually quoted by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine.

    Details of the App will be sent via text message to every farmer in the country over the coming days.


    ENDS"

    I don't need an app to tell me prices are useless at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Is this the best covney can come up with after the beef forums?
    I hope he's not minister of defence if we ever go to war. 6 months after war breaks out He'll launch an app telling us how many soilders have died :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    I said wrote: »
    I don't need an app to tell me prices are useless at the moment.
    A token gesture at best ,John Heney had a good article in the farming indo questioning the serious deterioration in grades for his dairy cross stock in the last 10 years . Has anyone here ever come out of a factory happy with their weights and bear in mind they don't even weigh the live animal to give a reference weight or killout %. I suppose if farmers really wanted to pick nits, the processors only pay out on trimmed cold carcass weight while they sell on the rest of the animal or the fifth quarter These are minor issues compared to price manipulation ,spec, QA and a host of more current complaints which hopefully will be addressed by the minister.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    did any of ye see the entrepreneur programme on rte tonight

    the dunbia family were on telly with their new business selling cattle and sheep penis and other stuff to foreign countries

    the nose of cattle is a cuisine in some country

    hoofs are worth a small fortune each

    they must be raking money in left right and centre between the leather market and so forth

    and we're only paid for the meat !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Brass Tag


    did any of ye see the entrepreneur programme on rte tonight

    the dunbia family were on telly with their new business selling cattle and sheep penis and other stuff to foreign countries

    the nose of cattle is a cuisine in some country

    hoofs are worth a small fortune each

    they must be raking money in left right and centre between the leather market and so forth

    and we're only paid for the meat !!

    If we were getting paid properly for the meat, w'ed be happy enough to throw the hide and hoofs in for luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    did any of ye see the entrepreneur programme on rte tonight

    the dunbia family were on telly with their new business selling cattle and sheep penis and other stuff to foreign countries

    the nose of cattle is a cuisine in some country

    hoofs are worth a small fortune each

    they must be raking money in left right and centre between the leather market and so forth

    and we're only paid for the meat !!

    Was his turnover 200 Million! FFS....


  • Registered Users Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    Was his turnover 200 Million! FFS....

    I think it was actually 800 million turnover

    himself and the auld lad walking through field full of charolais and simm heifers

    id say if you put the man himself on a hook he'd kill too heavy:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    I think it was actually 800 million turnover

    himself and the auld lad walking through field full of charolais and simm heifers

    id say if you put the man himself on a hook he'd kill too heavy:rolleyes:

    Killout at 35%!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Good loser


    did any of ye see the entrepreneur programme on rte tonight

    the dunbia family were on telly with their new business selling cattle and sheep penis and other stuff to foreign countries

    the nose of cattle is a cuisine in some country

    hoofs are worth a small fortune each

    they must be raking money in left right and centre between the leather market and so forth

    and we're only paid for the meat !!


    The €5 per head insurance (compulsory) helps.

    It's €1.50 in Cahir - and optional.


  • Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nettleman


    Good loser wrote: »
    The €5 per head insurance (compulsory) helps.

    It's €1.50 in Cahir - and optional.

    Does anyone actually know what that's for? Do they not need financial regulator approval to sell (deduct!!) us insurance???


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Nettleman wrote: »
    Does anyone actually know what that's for? Do they not need financial regulator approval to sell (deduct!!) us insurance???

    It is so that if the carcass or part of it is rejected going up the line you get paid. However for bthe last 2 years they are very careful to stop insurance on any animal that has anything wrong with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Years ago a neighbour put 3 cows into factory.

    Insurance was taken on two and these were paid for; the third was condemned and not paid for and NO insurance taken on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Nettleman wrote: »
    Does anyone actually know what that's for? Do they not need financial regulator approval to sell (deduct!!) us insurance???

    I would say the insurance ombudsman would not be impressed with compulsory insurance.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭locha


    Anyone getting quotes for next week?


  • Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nettleman


    It is so that if the carcass or part of it is rejected going up the line you get paid. However for bthe last 2 years they are very careful to stop insurance on any animal that has anything wrong with it.

    so, if animal looks ok, dock the insurance charge, if animal looks like it will require insurance, don't dock, therefore no claim. On what planet is this type of carryon acceptable business practice, and why is choice not with payer, like all other insurances..smells like PPI, misselling to me, imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nettleman


    locha wrote: »
    Anyone getting quotes for next week?

    No sorry, but the beef price app has been updated this morning for prices paid up to 12th, slight rises across the board, but this app isn't very good. it was meant to bring transparency, but IFJ gives same info, so no real advancement on the transparency front imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Nettleman wrote: »
    No sorry, but the beef price app has been updated this morning for prices paid up to 12th, slight rises across the board, but this app isn't very good. it was meant to bring transparency, but IFJ gives same info, so no real advancement on the transparency front imo

    Current weather will test the price now


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Current weather will test the price now

    Lot of cattle will be moved through the marts and factory's now I say when the ground and grass starts to give


  • Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭dryan


    Got a call from a factory agent this evening.
    Quoted me 3.70 for underage steers for the coming week. 3.65 for overage.
    Based in the midlands.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    I was thinking of off loading our stock bull, he is 6 yrs old and weighs in or around 900kgs, what's he worth? Will I be able to offload him to a factory? Not qa given that apart from a bull or a few cull cows we never send to the factory! Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 423 ✭✭wesleysniper38


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    I was thinking of off loading our stock bull, he is 6 yrs old and weighs in or around 900kgs, what's he worth? Will I be able to offload him to a factory? Not qa given that apart from a bull or a few cull cows we never send to the factory! Thanks.

    Chat an agent Mac.
    Those types don't generally sell well in the mart, especially in October..
    Of course there's always DD!


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭limerick farmer


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    I was thinking of off loading our stock bull, he is 6 yrs old and weighs in or around 900kgs, what's he worth? Will I be able to offload him to a factory? Not qa given that apart from a bull or a few cull cows we never send to the factory! Thanks.
    saw a hereford bull 900kgs making 1445 euro last week in kilmallock mart bit of a row on at the time between the dealers.You might not get it every week.fr bull 645 1040,fr 800 1240


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Feckthis


    saw a hereford bull 900kgs making 1445 euro last week in kilmallock mart bit of a row on at the time between the dealers.You might not get it every week.fr bull 645 1040,fr 800 1240

    There some man to start arguing. Calf sales in the spring is like a fecking free for all with them.


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