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Robson99

rancher wrote: »

Wouldn't think that there'll be a blockade

Dont think a protest is the way to do it. Just PR bulls**t.

A weeks warning to the Factories [Mr G**dm*n] that the entrance gates will be blocked for a week would be the way to do it. At least the farmers would know in advance that they wont be getting in to the factories that particular week. See how the factories would respond .

[And get Larry down to have a chat with the farmers at the gate.]

rancher

bob charles wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Steers are 19.5c/kilo under EU average
Heifers are 1c/kilo under EU average
Y Bulls are 19c/kilo under EU average
Cows are 6c/kilo over EU average

Do your crowd even know the figures and have a notion what they are on about.


So can we export live to the UK (if no barriers) taking prices over the last few weeks (average prices taken)

500kgs R steer can be bought for €1160 in the Uk, €1060 here
500kgs R heifer can be bought for €1230 in the UK, €1125 here

Was at a meeting tonight where Joe burke of bord bia put up a graph where irish R3 steer price was above the European R3 young bull (proper young bulls) the whole way through 2013 and up to last week, I asked him about R3 steers he said R3 steer market in Europe was so small it was irrelevant.
So I ask you now have you a notion what you're on about.

freedominacup

rancher wrote: »

Was at a meeting tonight where Joe burke of bord bia put up a graph where irish R3 steer price was above the European R3 young bull (proper young bulls) the whole way through 2013 and up to last week, I asked him about R3 steers he said R3 steer market in Europe was so small it was irrelevant.
So I ask you now have you a notion what you're on about.

So why the hell are the factories allowed to trot out the BS that no-one wants bulls unchallenged. Steers is the irrelevant market. I've never produced steers and I won't be starting now,

nashmach

freedominacup wrote: »

So why the hell are the factories allowed to trot out the BS that no-one wants bulls unchallenged. Steers is the irrelevant market. I've never produced steers and I won't be starting now,

I'm guessing now that it has more to do with our grass fed image in the various key markets?

Insp. Harry Callahan

Got some heifers away this morning, going to Kepak, 4.22 I think they are paying.

Was told there is an ifa protest there but not til 11.30 am

rancher

freedominacup wrote: »

So why the hell are the factories allowed to trot out the BS that no-one wants bulls unchallenged. Steers is the irrelevant market. I've never produced steers and I won't be starting now,

Kepak last night said they don't want everyone going out castrating bulls now, but they have to be proper young bulls, inspec, Qa etc, also talk to them before you commit to bulls, incidentally this guy said the same thing in 2012 at a meeting!!!!!!

rancher

Insp. Harry Callahan wrote: »

Got some heifers away this morning, going to Kepak, 4.22 I think they are paying.

Was told there is an ifa protest there but not til 11.30 am

If that's 4.22 base on the grid its a good price

biddy2013

how are bulls selling in the mart?

severeoversteer

rancher wrote: »

Kepak last night said they don't want everyone going out castrating bulls now, but they have to be proper young bulls, inspec, Qa etc, also talk to them before you commit to bulls, incidentally this guy said the same thing in 2012 at a meeting!!!!!!

did he say much else, about weight or anything ? for the young bulls

rancher

severeoversteer wrote: »

did he say much else, about weight or anything ? for the young bulls

The main spec is 320 - 380 kg bulls under 16mths and a limited ,market up to 400 and 20 mths,
btw the weights would be the same for steers and heifers but will take the up to 30 mths but the younger the better.
Huge crowd at the meeting but of course no one said boo to them and I think they persuaded farmers they were doing their best

dzer2

rancher wrote: »

The main spec is 320 - 380 kg bulls under 16mths and a limited ,market up to 400 and 20 mths,
btw the weights would be the same for steers and heifers but will take the up to 30 mths but the younger the better.
Huge crowd at the meeting but of course no one said boo to them and I think they persuaded farmers they were doing their best

I take that is cold weight and what price and grade did they say

jt65

big turn out @ the protest abp nenagh

bob charles

jt65 wrote: »

big turn out @ the protest abp nenagh

I presumed it wasnt happening as I heard nothing, only on here. Im an IFA member, they have my phone number and email address and no notification of anything. Same was the story for milk protests last year. most members didnt even know.

One would have to query how come they waited until now to protest. up to now the factories didnt have a defence, now they have. maybe Im putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5, wouldnt be the first time


I must shoot, but will answer other questions asked of me later

Damo810

Supposedly hundreds at Kepak Clonee protest.



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Robson99

rancher wrote: »

If that's 4.22 base on the grid its a good price

Best base price I heard of is 4.05. Id say its 4.05 + 0.12 for QA + 0.06 for grading R+. There is no way anyone is paying €4.22 base

tatoo

I hope the protests pay off,but I fear a more French-like militant approach may be necessary.

Is there 4.05 about at the moment, or is it only in very isolated cases ?

rancher

Robson99 wrote: »

Best base price I heard of is 4.05. Id say its 4.05 + 0.12 for QA + 0.06 for grading R+. There is no way anyone is paying €4.22 base

I didn't think any where was buying flat price at the moment....4.10 still being got for heifers to grade

mf240

Protest started at half eleven, after lairages were full.

Waste of time. Just a harmless little pr exercise.

I.F.A. I farm armchairs.

rancher

mf240 wrote: »

Protest started at half eleven, after lairages were full.

Waste of time. Just a harmless little pr exercise.

I.F.A. I farm armchairs.

It was never the intention to block farmers selling cattle, crack was good anyway despite the rain.
Went for a bit of grub and a few pints after.

nashmach

rancher wrote: »

It was never the intention to block farmers selling cattle, crack was good anyway despite the rain.
Went for a bit of grub and a few pints after.

Rancher did you really have to put those as your last comments, you rightly got slated before for similar and now you are at it again!

bob charles

mf240 wrote: »

Protest started at half eleven, after lairages were full.

Waste of time. Just a harmless little pr exercise.

I.F.A. I farm armchairs.

Not a waste of time, A picture of a protest was needed for the front of the IFJ paper in the morning so all well that ends well

tanko

rancher wrote: »

It was never the intention to block farmers selling cattle, crack was good anyway despite the rain.
Went for a bit of grub and a few pints after.

What exactly was the intention of the carry on today? You were quite happy to take your fill of the food and drink sponsored by the factories the night before the tullamore show and listen to mairead mcguinness waffle on like only she can.

I wonder who paid for the beer and grub today? I hope ye remembered to collect the IFA levies taken from farmers cheques before ye headed to the pub.

I feel sorry for farmers who are IFA members working away while the lads at the top scramble to get on the gravy train.

What's the odds that there'll be a picture of Eddie Downey on the front of the comic tomorrow with a microphone in his hand. The whole thing is a charade.

bob charles

rancher wrote: »

It was never the intention to block farmers selling cattle, crack was good anyway despite the rain.
Went for a bit of grub and a few pints after.

you are not going drawing me out with your childish remarks again like last time:)

larrymiller

Got a letter off slaney meats today saying there mad for Hereford x beef for lidl and to give them a call etc etc.
If they're so mad for it I wish they up the price

Robson99

rancher wrote: »

I didn't think any where was buying flat price at the moment....4.10 still being got for heifers to grade

Where can you get 4.10.????? Maybe if you have 20+ you might get 4.10 but then again the IFA couldnt care less about the man going with 4 or 5 in the 12 * 6 trailer.

Whats the odds on the factories cutting another 5 cent again next week ???
Do the IFA have anything to report back to the farmers after todays protest??
Did Larry cover the drinks and food after the protest??

mf240

Inside the factories there were horses hanging, and outside there is a sheep farmer in a suit waddling around with a homemade placard that says "down with this sort of thing."

only in Ireland.

rancher

nashmach wrote: »

Rancher did you really have to put those as your last comments, you rightly got slated before for similar and now you are at it again!

I was giving you serious information, when mf 240 turned it into a joke, I thought I'd join in, seemingly I'm the only one not allowed indulge in snide remarks.... by the way I know where the 4.10 is

jt65

larrymiller wrote: »

Got a letter off slaney meats today saying there mad for Hereford x beef for lidl and to give them a call etc etc.
If they're so mad for it I wish they up the price

they have an agent in this area, a local abattoir or Jennings Ballinarobe are nearly always stronger

Robson99

rancher wrote: »

I was giving you serious information, when mf 240 turned it into a joke, I thought I'd join in, seemingly I'm the only one not allowed indulge in snide remarks.... by the way I know where the 4.10 is

Well it certainly aint in the west

mf240

rancher wrote: »

I was giving you serious information, when mf 240 turned it into a joke, I thought I'd join in, seemingly I'm the only one not allowed indulge in snide remarks.... by the way I know where the 4.10 is

I didn't turn it into a joke I pointed out that it is a joke, the dogs on the street know that ye are a toothless group of spin doctors only interested in the handy money and perks with a view to getting up the political ladder.