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Robson99 wrote: »

Should they not be

Base 4.05
QA 0.12
U+ 0.24
Total 4.41??????

Base 4.05
QA 0.12
U- 0.12
Total 4.29??????

Looking at journal you are spot on

bob charles

Robson99 wrote: »

Should they not be

Base 4.05
QA 0.12
U+ 0.24
Total 4.41??????

Base 4.05
QA 0.12
U- 0.12
Total 4.29??????

Im not including QA of 12c for under 30 months stock

so base 4.10 + (4 increments of 6c is 4.34 add on 12c for QA if applicable is €4.46c kg)

bob charles

rancher wrote: »

Don't think anyone wants a picket on factories either

Pickets never get anywhere, dialogue is your only route with processors, retailers and consumers.

rancher

bob charles wrote: »

Pickets never get anywhere, dialogue is your only route with processors, retailers and consumers.

Dialogue is where the commitment on price came from

bob charles

rancher wrote: »

Dialogue is where the commitment on price came from

well then, someone is telling porkies. seems the IFA are having the urine extracted by the hand thats feeding them

rancher

bob charles wrote: »

well then, someone is telling porkies. seems the IFA are having the urine extracted by the hand thats feeding them

Can't understand anyone believing them
Thankfully I'm staying well away from it

bob charles

rancher wrote: »

Can't understand anyone believing them
Thankfully I'm staying well away from it

Are you talking about people believing what the IFA say or what the meat industry say.
Your lads and ladies must of believed them and they issued news to say that there would be no more price cuts.

maybe a seasonal supply price structure is needed, something that will never happen as at the moment winter finishers are subsidising the price grazers are getting

Robson99

bob charles wrote: »

Im not including QA of 12c for under 30 months stock

so base 4.10 + (4 increments of 6c is 4.34 add on 12c for QA if applicable is €4.46c kg)

Sorry bob I included the QA

Dont see how he has only 7cent of a diff between U+ and U- shouldnt it be 12 cent

bob charles

Robson99 wrote: »

Sorry bob I included the QA

Dont see how he has only 7cent of a diff between U+ and U- shouldnt it be 12 cent

yeah that doesnt make sense, but sure I suppose he said nothing as he was getting a great price :rolleyes:

rancher

bob charles wrote: »

yeah that doesnt make sense, but sure I suppose he said nothing as he was getting a great price :rolleyes:

Mistake it wasn't U+ it was U= and it'll be a great price towards what's coming down the line.
This is getting like the last thread you got deleted involved in

Robson99

rancher wrote: »

Mistake it wasn't U+ it was U= and it'll be a great price towards what's coming down the line.

What do you see coming down the line?

bob charles

rancher wrote: »

Mistake it wasn't U+ it was U= and it'll be a great price towards what's coming down the line.
This is getting like the last thread you got deleted involved in

Is this the IFA line, that we are getting a great price at the moment??????

What thread are you on about that got deleted, superlevy one? or the one where the OP hadnt and idea of their cost and said in the same wind they were making a wad of cash at finishing cattle

rancher

bob charles wrote: »

Is this the IFA line, that we are getting a great price at the moment??????

What thread are you on about that got deleted, superlevy one? or the one where the OP hadnt and idea of their cost and said in the same wind they were making a wad of cash at finishing cattle

Are we not getting the second highest price in Europe at the moment, any way the outlook is for more competition with brazil even getting back in

bob charles

rancher wrote: »

Are we not getting the second highest price in Europe at the moment, any way the outlook is for more competition with brazil even getting back in

:rolleyes:
Steers are 19.5c/kilo under EU average
Heifers are 1c/kilo under EU average
Y Bulls are 19c/kilo under EU average
Cows are 6c/kilo over EU average

Do your crowd even know the figures and have a notion what they are on about.


So can we export live to the UK (if no barriers) taking prices over the last few weeks (average prices taken)

500kgs R steer can be bought for €1160 in the Uk, €1060 here
500kgs R heifer can be bought for €1230 in the UK, €1125 here

Insp. Harry Callahan

Had a batch if heifers booked in for next week to go, the local abattoir Donegal meats cut the price by 27 cent a kilo for the coming week, down from 4.27 to 4 euro a kilo, feeling a bit fed up at this stage

adne

rancher wrote: »

Are we not getting the second highest price in Europe at the moment, any way the outlook is for more competition with brazil even getting back in

Looking beyond the fact that your statement is wrong, how can you compare prices achievable in this context, the cost of inputs vary greatly between european countries with ireland been close to the top of thislist

rancher

bob charles wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Steers are 19.5c/kilo under EU average
Heifers are 1c/kilo under EU average
Y Bulls are 19c/kilo under EU average
Cows are 6c/kilo over EU average

Do your crowd even know the figures and have a notion what they are on about.


So can we export live to the UK (if no barriers) taking prices over the last few weeks (average prices taken)

500kgs R steer can be bought for €1160 in the Uk, €1060 here
500kgs R heifer can be bought for €1230 in the UK, €1125 here

I've told you before that I'm well away from cattle price, I resigned off the livestock committee because of the hassle of cattle price, and if you think you can do better....away with you .
I see by Harry Callahan that I was right about where prices were going,
Hope it doesn't pull down the lamb price

rancher

adne wrote: »

Looking beyond the fact that your statement is wrong, how can you compare prices achievable in this context, the cost of inputs vary greatly between european countries with ireland been close to the top of this list

I was in Canada this year and to see the soya and the maize growing beside the cattle....I just said if these get to trade in Europe, we're finished...well they're in now and America hoping to get ten times the canadian quota in, and brazil on the cards as well

I think everyone will have to learn how to milk cows

adne

rancher wrote: »

I was in Canada this year and to see the soya and the maize growing beside the cattle....I just said if these get to trade in Europe, we're finished...well they're in now and America hoping to get ten times the canadian quota in, and brazil on the cards as well

I think everyone will have to learn how to milk cows

Did ifa pay for that trip, your a great addition to the irish beef farmer with that attitude :mad:

rancher

adne wrote: »

Did ifa pay for that trip, your a great addition to the irish beef farmer with that attitude :mad:

Posters here complain that the journal talks up price etc, but I'll tell it as it is.
What's the point in putting the head in the sand

adne

rancher wrote: »

Posters here complain that the journal talks up price etc, but I'll tell it as it is.
What's the point in putting the head in the sand

No point putting head in sand, but i think your statement about "everyone will need to learn to milk cows" sums up the IFA, not everyone has the option of switching to dairying based on land type restrictions especially us lads in west.
Its plain to see the IFA are not a representative body/voice for farmers on marginal ground

rancher

adne wrote: »

No point putting head in sand, but i think your statement about "everyone will need to learn to milk cows" sums up the IFA, not everyone has the option of switching to dairying based on land type restrictions especially us lads in west.
Its plain to see the IFA are not a representative body/voice for farmers on marginal ground

You know well that it was only an off the cuff remark, my farm is more fragmented than yours I'd say.... farmers won't take positions in IFA and then claiming not to be represented and wondering why.

When you go out to buy something, you'll buy it at the cheapest possible price, factories are the same and nothing is going to change that only the seller.

Do people want the market talked up or do they want a dose of realism, you don't seem to want either

bob charles

rancher wrote: »

You know well that it was only an off the cuff remark, my farm is more fragmented than yours I'd say.... farmers won't take positions in IFA and then claiming not to be represented and wondering why.

When you go out to buy something, you'll buy it at the cheapest possible price, factories are the same and nothing is going to change that only the seller.

is there any point in us paying our subs so?

rancher

bob charles wrote: »

is there any point in us paying our subs so?

My life would be very easy if cattle price was all I had to deal with.

adne

rancher wrote: »

You know well that it was only an off the cuff remark, my farm is more fragmented than yours I'd say.... farmers won't take positions in IFA and then claiming not to be represented and wondering why.

When you go out to buy something, you'll buy it at the cheapest possible price, factories are the same and nothing is going to change that only the seller.

Do people want the market talked up or do they want a dose of realism, you don't seem to want either

How am i expected to know its an off the cuff remark, as far as I'm concerned your a voice for a representative body (if you are not you should not declare you affiliation to the IFA) .

Yes naturally factories try to buy at the cheapest price, BUT you (the IFA) are meant to represent the seller not the factory and that is something you (the IFA) do not seem capable of doing.

rancher

adne wrote: »

How am i expected to know its an off the cuff remark, as far as I'm concerned your a voice for a representative body (if you are not you should not declare you affiliation to the IFA) .

Yes naturally factories try to buy at the cheapest price, BUT you (the IFA) are meant to represent the seller not the factory and that is something you (the IFA) do not seem capable of doing.

We do not represent the factory, James Murphy and Henry burns did everything this year to get a boat and after a couple of loads of sheep and cattle, they went off somewhere else. we obviously don't have value here.

adne

rancher wrote: »

We do not represent the factory

Then why the fook come out with this statement -'I was in Canada this year and to see the soya and the maize growing beside the cattle....I just said if these get to trade in Europe, we're finished...well they're in now and America hoping to get ten times the canadian quota in, and brazil on the cards as well'

That plays into the hands of what the factories want

rancher

adne wrote: »

Then why the fook come out with this statement -'I was in Canada this year and to see the soya and the maize growing beside the cattle....I just said if these get to trade in Europe, we're finished...well they're in now and America hoping to get ten times the canadian quota in, and brazil on the cards as well'

That plays into the hands of what the factories want

and that's why the journal talks up the price of cattle and quotes what the hard sellers are getting.

I on the other hand am a realist

adne

rancher wrote: »

and that's why the journal talks up the price of cattle and quotes what the hard sellers are getting.

I on the other hand am a realist

You sure are a realist amongst other things but in my opinion members of the IFA need to stop been realists and start been Activists.

nhg

rancher wrote: »

When you go out to buy something, you'll buy it at the cheapest possible price, factories are the same and nothing is going to change that only the seller.

Do people want the market talked up or do they want a dose of realism, you don't seem to want either

Then why are the IFA still collecting a % of the factory price for each animal if they are not even interested in getting the best price for the animal - is that not the fee paid by the farmer for the IFA to get the best price?

Maybe it's the factory that should be paying the IFA & not the farmer!!!!!