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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    nhg wrote: »
    Then why are the IFA still collecting a % of the factory price for each animal if they are not even interested in getting the best price for the animal - is that not the fee paid by the farmer for the IFA to get the best price?

    Maybe it's the factory that should be paying the IFA & not the farmer!!!!!

    In the past, I(personally) got nothing only abuse for doing pickets and protests at factories from farmers and I have good reason for staying away from beef prices.
    Soft selling is a huge part of the problem and well you know it, but its easier to blame someone else.
    We have a livestock committee and I only sit in on meetings with the factories and in any negotiation if you don't have a lever, you're just wasting your time. We have to develop live exports some how, but there is something wrong with the stock or they'd be back more often.

    There's IFA meetings in every county every month, so if you think more should be done and you know how to do it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭dzer2


    rancher wrote: »
    In the past, I(personally) got nothing only abuse for doing pickets and protests at factories from farmers and I have good reason for staying away from beef prices.
    Soft selling is a huge part of the problem and well you know it, but its easier to blame someone else.
    We have a livestock committee and I only sit in on meetings with the factories and in any negotiation if you don't have a lever, you're just wasting your time. We have to develop live exports some how, but there is something wrong with the stock or they'd be back more often.

    There's IFA meetings in every county every month, so if you think more should be done and you know how to do it....

    Load of boll*x they only want the big lads who are in milk anyone else is a pain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    dzer2 wrote: »
    Load of boll*x they only want the big lads who are in milk anyone else is a pain.

    When was the last time a dairy farmer was president of the IFA?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    dzer2 wrote: »
    Load of boll*x they only want the big lads who are in milk anyone else is a pain.

    That's lies anyway, sheep farmer here...do But dairy farmers in general are more involved, that's why dairy coops go well
    as opposed to beef coops floundering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Surprised nobody has mentioned the article in the indo last week about our former ifa president ensuring Larry has a steady supply of cattle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭jt65


    When was the last time a dairy farmer was president of the IFA?

    2006


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    jt65 wrote: »
    2006

    You're right. I was going to say that there haven't been many dairy farmers in the job in the past couple of decades.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Surprised nobody has mentioned the article in the indo last week about our former ifa president ensuring Larry has a steady supply of cattle.

    didn't see it. What was the context of it cavanjack.
    From what you said, it looks like run with the hare and hunt with the hound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    TUBBY wrote: »
    didn't see it. What was the context of it cavanjack.
    From what you said, it looks like run with the hare and hunt with the hound.

    Two big sheds - capacity for 1200 cattle :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    TUBBY wrote: »
    didn't see it. What was the context of it cavanjack.
    From what you said, it looks like run with the hare and hunt with the hound.

    Nearly ten years since he had anything to do with IFA
    Have to take the opportunities that come your way.
    Six sons farming 1000 acres they say, they always worked hard


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    TUBBY wrote: »
    didn't see it. What was the context of it cavanjack.
    From what you said, it looks like run with the hare and hunt with the hound.

    I wonder is it just another Winter Finisher under pressure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    I wonder is it just another Winter Finisher under pressure.

    You wouldnt have another mans animals if you could make a hand of things yourself :rolleyes:.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    I wonder is it just another Winter Finisher under pressure.
    Wouldn't be surprised. they're lucky to be out of it this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Anyone get quotes for bullocks or heifers this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    I wonder is it just another Winter Finisher under pressure.

    sheds were up on done deal looking for tenants to lease them in the Autumn so I would assume there are just leased to whoever has the cattle in them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭biddy2013


    spoke to local cattle factory agent earlier, he said a lad rang him a few weeks ago with a few hundred bulls, he got 16 of them killed. He said factory is mental but he still had room for my culls tomorrow. He said the bull men are going mad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    biddy2013 wrote: »
    spoke to local cattle factory agent earlier, he said a lad rang him a few weeks ago with a few hundred bulls, he got 16 of them killed. He said factory is mental but he still had room for my culls tomorrow. He said the bull men are going mad

    Loads of farmers with bulls have there heads in the sand I know I have only a few but have 2/3 moved and the rest will go next week. Some of these lads bulls are on the verge of going over 2 years of age. It a case of taking you beating and moving on. Not nice but this is what happens. The other issue is that a lot of these bulls are now staring to kill over 420kgs so more penalty's. The only hope is to get through them and wait.

    However what I would really like to know is have some of these winter finishers learned anything will they again build up large stocks of feed and pay through the nose for cattle next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭Hershall


    Loads of farmers with bulls have there heads in the sand I know I have only a few but have 2/3 moved and the rest will go next week. Some of these lads bulls are on the verge of going over 2 years of age. It a case of taking you beating and moving on. Not nice but this is what happens. The other issue is that a lot of these bulls are now staring to kill over 420kgs so more penalty's. The only hope is to get through them and wait.

    However what I would really like to know is have some of these winter finishers learned anything will they again build up large stocks of feed and pay through the nose for cattle next year.

    Don't mind next year I was in local mart Saturday couldn't believe wot yearling bulls and heifers were making. Totally unrelated to beef price. Farmers won't learn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    Hershall wrote: »
    Don't mind next year I was in local mart Saturday couldn't believe wot yearling bulls and heifers were making. Totally unrelated to beef price. Farmers won't learn

    hope you're all going to the protests at the selected factories on wednesday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    Didnt hear anything on it Rancher. Which ones. No text came round yet anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭stand on!!


    One of the boys sent me on the txt he was worried that I wouldnt get his cattle away this week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    TUBBY wrote: »
    Didnt hear anything on it Rancher. Which ones. No text came round yet anyway.

    contact local office or reps, don't know whether I should put it up here or you can PM me if you know who I am...seemingly a few do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    stand on!! wrote: »
    One of the boys sent me on the txt he was worried that I wouldnt get his cattle away this week.

    You wouldn't know what a crowd would do, never saw farmers so worked up. I think it'll be big, getting a good few PMs here too, even from those that don't know me..thanks for the support guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,649 ✭✭✭Robson99


    TUBBY wrote: »
    Anyone get quotes for bullocks or heifers this week.

    Heifers 4.05. Back 5 cent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    rancher wrote: »
    contact local office or reps, don't know whether I should put it up here or you can PM me if you know who I am...seemingly a few do

    whats the secrecy needed for. I have animals away on Wednesday that will be in the lairage early tomorrow, how the hell am I to know im going to be breaking a picket at 6am on Wednesday morning when the animals have to be killed which or whether. I cant see whats not to be gained from not making it public whats going on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    whats the secrecy needed for. I have animals away on Wednesday that will be in the lairage early tomorrow, how the hell am I to know im going to be breaking a picket at 6am on Wednesday morning when the animals have to be killed which or whether. I cant see whats not to be gained from not making it public whats going on
    I would imagine it is to stop the factories getting court injunctions against the IFA prior to the event. That was the problem the last time - blockade had to be lifted due to intervention of the courts if my memory serves me right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    Base price wrote: »
    I would imagine it is to stop the factories getting court injunctions against the IFA prior to the event. That was the problem the last time - blockade had to be lifted due to intervention of the courts if my memory serves me right.

    Don't see how that will work, it has been well known since earlier today in any event.

    Another PR exercise??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    nashmach wrote: »
    Don't see how that will work, it has been well known since earlier today in any event.

    Another PR exercise??

    march to dublin on the cards to welcome the new president into office?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    march to dublin on the cards to welcome the new president into office?

    I'm entitled to give out or not give out information as I please without this ****e...there is no secrecy, but might have implications regarding the comp authority.... Hope the rest of you see now why I won't be leading any charge on cattle prices. Another Pr exercise my foot, I know henry burns didn't even get get a few days off at Christmas because of farmers phoning him, Do you call that pr as well
    Last time I arranged a protest, I got a dozen phone calls from farmers with your attitude, I tell you it educates you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    Base price wrote: »
    I would imagine it is to stop the factories getting court injunctions against the IFA prior to the event. That was the problem the last time - blockade had to be lifted due to intervention of the courts if my memory serves me right.

    Wouldn't think that there'll be a blockade


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