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Tesco Rip-off prices

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Le_Dieux


    Skopzz wrote: »
    My microwave is cooking the popcorn now....

    It is hard to believe that someone isn't going to figure it out.

    Just defect. You'll be a lot happier over in Poland.

    Apologies top those who wish to only talk about Tesco's ( I actually do too:-)).

    But, I must take this clown Skopzz to task. Skopzz, You made a statement about Intel, I have already asked twice for Your source to back up Your allegations. So far - nothing!

    Can I once more ask...where is Your proof??? You made the allegation, all I want is concrete proof.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Yep. I think the whole thing is overblown. Sorry but that's wrong. The IMF/EU have influence on the cost of private industry. The Government recently implemented these changes as requested by the EU/IMF:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1201/1224308419691.html

    To put this into context: An increase, or a complete lifting, of the retail size cap in Ireland could entice American hypermarkets, such as Costco and Wal-mart to establish shops here. Well, maybe indirectly, but the Government has also introduced other measures to deal with the cost of private industry here.


    Now you believe Phil Hogan, the buffoon of the current Government? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    whiterebel wrote: »
    Now you believe Phil Hogan, the buffoon of the current Government? :pac:

    No matter what. You never let your guard down. That is the lesson we should all learn. Mr Hogan did the right thing by removing those restrictions. Good thing because it opens up competition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Le_Dieux wrote: »
    Apologies top those who wish to only talk about Tesco's ( I actually do too:-)).

    But, I must take this clown Skopzz to task. Skopzz, You made a statement about Intel, I have already asked twice for Your source to back up Your allegations. So far - nothing!

    Can I once more ask...where is Your proof??? You made the allegation, all I want is concrete proof.

    Have you been reading the excellent posts by Mr. davo? I've noticed you haven't been trained on how to respond so you just spit out pedantic comments.

    Now focus and get my iPhone finished. Tomorrow I need you to work on my second new iPad. Chop chop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Skopzz wrote: »

    Have you been reading the excellent posts by Mr. davo? I've noticed you haven't been trained on how to respond so you just spit out pedantic comments.

    Now focus and get my iPhone finished. Tomorrow I need you to work on my second new iPad. Chop chop.

    This post shows deficiency in judgement, is not sensible and displays a lack of intelligence, there is a term used to describe a person who posts comments like these.

    Skopzz, it occurred to me that you are not actually a third level student, did you at some time in the past leave/fail out of NUIG?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I actually just wanted to read about the rip off prices in tesco but I must admit you lot have put together a fascinating debate. I especially like the unemployed dude aggressively telling everyone how wrong they are - comedy gold!!!

    I've tried Lidl and Aldi but find a lot of their products taste a bit cheap and the selection just isn't there. Tesco's fine by me :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Le_Dieux


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Have you been reading the excellent posts by Mr. davo? I've noticed you haven't been trained on how to respond so you just spit out pedantic comments.

    Now focus and get my iPhone finished. Tomorrow I need you to work on my second new iPad. Chop chop.

    Well, I'm not going to bother asking a 4th time. Your silence says it all....You know sweet f**k all. Sorry Mods, but this 'person' makes crazy statements and then can't back them up with proof when asked. I'm not saying He's wrong, all I ask is for proof to verify his stupid and inane speculation...Woodies, Intel...whose next I wonder.

    So, 3 times I have asked You for proof on your wild statement, 3 times You haven't bothered to answer.

    As I say, Your silence speaks volumes. And i won't be bothered to ask again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭dave98


    I find Supervalu the best, their offers are good and the standard is higher than Tesco. Good offers on the fresh meat and it's Irish meat whichis important!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,974 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    dave98 wrote: »
    I find Supervalu the best, their offers are good and the standard is higher than Tesco. Good offers on the fresh meat and it's Irish meat whichis important!

    Out of all of the super-markets, SuperValu is always a last resort for me. A local butcher beats all of them hands for meat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 362 ✭✭Fluffybums


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Have you been reading the excellent posts by Mr. davo? I've noticed you haven't been trained on how to respond so you just spit out pedantic comments.

    Now focus and get my iPhone finished. Tomorrow I need you to work on my second new iPad. Chop chop.
    Le_Dieux wrote: »
    Well, I'm not going to bother asking a 4th time. Your silence says it all....You know sweet f**k all. Sorry Mods, but this 'person' makes crazy statements and then can't back them up with proof when asked. I'm not saying He's wrong, all I ask is for proof to verify his stupid and inane speculation...Woodies, Intel...whose next I wonder.

    So, 3 times I have asked You for proof on your wild statement, 3 times You haven't bothered to answer.

    As I say, Your silence speaks volumes. And i won't be bothered to ask again.


    Does Skopzz also go under the name JC on the "creationism" mammoth thread, certainly shows the same sort of constructed, evidence based arguments?:rolleyes:

    On the rip-off tesco topic: Considering there is a lot of belly aching about their rip-off prices, it always amuses me in Dunnes and Superquinn when they advertise that their price is the same as Tesco.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Le_Dieux


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Out of all of the super-markets, SuperValu is always a last resort for me. A local butcher beats all of them hands for meat.

    Agree EJ...I can NEVER understand how anyone can be bought in by supervalue's advertising campaign's. This meat half price, that joint half price...half price of what??? FFS, drives me nuts.

    Very hard to beat the local butcher, I agree


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Le_Dieux wrote: »
    Well, I'm not going to bother asking a 4th time. Your silence says it all....You know sweet f**k all. Sorry Mods, but this 'person' makes crazy statements and then can't back them up with proof when asked. I'm not saying He's wrong, all I ask is for proof to verify his stupid and inane speculation...Woodies, Intel...whose next I wonder.

    So, 3 times I have asked You for proof on your wild statement, 3 times You haven't bothered to answer.

    As I say, Your silence speaks volumes. And i won't be bothered to ask again.

    I thought I told you to get back to work building my iPhone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Monokne wrote: »
    I actually just wanted to read about the rip off prices in tesco but I must admit you lot have put together a fascinating debate. I especially like the unemployed dude aggressively telling everyone how wrong they are - comedy gold!!!

    I've tried Lidl and Aldi but find a lot of their products taste a bit cheap and the selection just isn't there. Tesco's fine by me :-)

    If you are talking about me, I'm not 'unemployed' now.

    I only put things that I've already done on my to do list.

    Then I immediately cross them off and call it a day.

    (You know you do it too.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Fluffybums wrote: »
    Does Skopzz also go under the name JC on the "creationism" mammoth thread, certainly shows the same sort of constructed, evidence based arguments?:rolleyes:

    On the rip-off tesco topic: Considering there is a lot of belly aching about their rip-off prices, it always amuses me in Dunnes and Superquinn when they advertise that their price is the same as Tesco.

    Oh Dude. That was freaking hilarious. I don't know what thread you're talking about, have a link?

    When you say "constructed, evidence based argument", I need not be talked down to.

    They take money out my pocket and yours by predatory tactics and keeping retail prices high.

    They can have a respectable exit into the history books like so many other companies have. It's called capitalism.

    They should put themselves up for sale. Take the highest bid. And say goodnight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Solair wrote: »
    I think people are making the erroneous assumption that Aldi and Lidl stock continental products. Their range in Ireland is similar to their range in the UK, it's not really at all like their range in Germany or France.

    A lot of their fresh products are sourced in Ireland and a lot of their processed food items seem to be British.

    If anything, very little of what those stores carry is German, other than a few cured meats, some of the chocolates and some of the items of household goods.

    Some of the household goods seem to be made by the usual own-brand manufactures e.g. ProPak and McBride, who contract manufacture for lots of people.

    So, all in all, I don't really think the experience in an Irish branch of Aldi or Lidl is particularly continental at all.

    The big difference is that the prices on a lot of the Aldi products are similar to Tesco's Value range but the quality of them is a LOT better (usually).


    ----

    To compare Ireland with France and the UK:

    Supermarket chains:

    UK (Mainstream)

    Tesco
    Sainsbury's
    Morrisons
    ASDA
    Co-operative
    Waitrose
    & smaller chains, symbol groups and niche players.

    France:

    Auchan
    Carrefour
    Géant / Casino
    Monoprix
    Intermarché
    Cora
    Super U / Hyper U
    E. Leclerc
    & many more brands owned by the above groups too and also some smaller chains and symbol groups and niche players.

    Those countries also have Lidl, Aldi, Netto and other discounters! So, in comparison the level of competition in Ireland is pathetically bad. We are being royally ripped off by what amounts to a duopoly with a few niche players along side.
    Any of the supermarkets above are full mainstream and have the full range of products that you'd expect in Dunnes/Tesco here.


    This is what happens when a population is not allowed to become competitive because of regulations and wage inflation.

    About the former, since it doesn't mention the country or origin, I think they only get packaged in Britain(?) It says something like 'specially produced for Aldi stores: (followed by the addresses)'.

    Fingers crossed that Carrefour will announce their entry into Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Oh Dude. That was freaking hilarious. I don't know what thread you're talking about, have a link?

    When you say "constructed, evidence based argument", I need not be talked down to.

    They take money out my pocket and yours by predatory tactics and keeping retail prices high.

    They can have a respectable exit into the history books like so many other companies have. It's called capitalism.

    They should put themselves up for sale. Take the highest bid. And say goodnight.

    Well done. You've managed to argue with yourself there.

    You do realise that if retailers close less competiton means higher prices?

    And don't think your beloved Walmart/Asda or Carrefour will come to Ireland and offer goods any cheaper than the current supermarkets do. They will measure their prices on the cost of doing business here. Like every other business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,974 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Well done. You've managed to argue with yourself there.

    You do realise that if retailers close less competiton means higher prices?

    And don't think your beloved Walmart/Asda or Carrefour will come to Ireland and offer goods any cheaper than the current supermarkets do. They will measure their prices on the cost of doing business here. Like every other business.

    Which is exactly what Tesco, Aldi and Lidl did.

    They all jumped on the high-profitability bandwagon that had already been set up by Dunnes, Quinnsworth and SuperValu. Had the homegrown supermarkets been more competitive in the first place, it wouldn't have been worthwhile for any of the foreign stores to move into Ireland, but the greed of the original trio made sure that there were big profits to be made here.

    I'm pretty certain that the reason for Tesco not having any stores in Germany, is because the German stores have lower prices and a lot of competition.

    ...and as for Carrefour, I don't think they'd be interested in coming here. They tried out in the Czech Republic for a few years, then sold that operation to Tesco and pulled out. If they couldn't hack it there, I'm sure they wouldn't hack it here either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,603 ✭✭✭grumpymunster


    Were Tesco not in ireland some 20 odd years ago and fled due to the low price of stuff in Ireland. I have a very vague memory of that anyway. If that was the case and they are now back and expanding to beat the band one would assume there is good profit here now.

    Where possible I do my shopping in Aldi / Lidl and the local butcher only buy a few things from Dunnes or Tesco and nothing at all from Centra or Supevalu


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,974 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Were Tesco not in ireland some 20 odd years ago and fled due to the low price of stuff in Ireland. I have a very vague memory of that anyway. If that was the case and they are now back and expanding to beat the band one would assume there is good profit here now.

    Where possible I do my shopping in Aldi / Lidl and the local butcher only buy a few things from Dunnes or Tesco and nothing at all from Centra or Supevalu

    As far as I recall, they didn't have enough supermarkets here to make it worth their while, and the ones they did have were spread far and wide, upping the distribution costs etc. They didn't stay long before they took off.

    Of course, when Quinnsworth were selling out, it was a different ballgame.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 oneoneeight


    Where possible I do my shopping in Aldi / Lidl and the local butcher only buy a few things from Dunnes or Tesco and nothing at all from Centra or Supevalu

    exactly the same here

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭orchidsrpretty


    I use to buy Tesco own brand potato cubes 2kg, they are yum! for 89c a bag. They were taken off the shelves in my local store(Arklow) just before christmas. I was in there the other day and was delighted to see them back until I checked the price 2.59!! I couldn't believe it. Have the price of potatos increased?


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭barrackali


    Take this for an increase...Birds Eye Chick Curry with rice:

    was €1.69

    now €2.99

    :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    davo10 wrote: »
    <<SNIP>> Less of the personal attacks please and keep the thread on topic!! <<snip>>

    As to the OP - Tesco are out to maximise their profits. Personally I try not to shop there, and if I do I target special offers. My preference is for a mix of Aldi & Supervalu - Aldi because of excellent prices and Supervalu because their prices are much the same as tesco, but the profits stay in the local town (all staff and franchise holder are local)


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    maxer68 wrote: »
    Tesco are out to maximise their profits.

    Is there any business that isnt?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    Is there any business that isnt?

    I should hope not - but maximising profits is not always about high price. I discount and I believe I am maximising my profits by doing so, - it brings more people to me, who then buy more because we're cheaper and then because my locations are off prime, (lower rent & rates) I end up more profitable than competitors charging 20% higher prices.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭Bistoman


    Last week Tesco has a bottle of Fairy Liquid for €0.99 or Two for €2.00. You have to watch them sneaky "offers" :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Bistoman wrote: »
    Last week Tesco has a bottle of Fairy Liquid for €0.99 or Two for €2.00. You have to watch them sneaky "offers" :)

    I would have snapped that up. As a frequent purchaser of fairy liquid I know that in all the supermarkets the usual price is around €1.75-€1.99 depending on the 'flavour' so the misprice of 99c was a bargain!

    You should have posted that in the Tesco thread in Bargain Alerts.

    Moral of the story is you also need to know the value of items. You don't know how much fairy is on a day to day basis so you assume it's a 'sneaky' tactic, when in fact it's a mistake on the original price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭Bistoman


    I would have snapped that up. As a frequent purchaser of fairy liquid I know that in all the supermarkets the usual price is around €1.75-€1.99 depending on the 'flavour' so the misprice of 99c was a bargain!

    You should have posted that in the Tesco thread in Bargain Alerts.

    Moral of the story is you also need to know the value of items. You don't know how much fairy is on a day to day basis so you assume it's a 'sneaky' tactic, when in fact it's a mistake on the original price.

    Sorry, a correction, after rechecking it was €1.99 for 1 or €4.00 for 2. ( Under a special Price sticker) :) Still very sneaky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Bistoman wrote: »
    Sorry, a correction, after rechecking it was €1.99 for 1 or €4.00 for 2. ( Under a special Price sticker) :) Still very sneaky.

    Dammit, was going to go up to Tesco and snap it up:D.

    Although on the website it states €2.09 for 1 or 2 for €4? On the 'platinum' type..none of the others are on offer.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Skopzz wrote: »
    You are a victim of Tesco's misleading advertizing. I check my shopping bills very carefully (and happily have the kind of brain that can remember to the cent what each item cost last time/usually costs). What I have noticed is that certain mid-priced essentials have been cut very slightly in price as the publicity trumpets. But of course, you'd be a mug to go for their supposedly 'special' offer (because it's a discount on the higher end price). I will continue to shop at Aldi for most of my groceries as I have been doing for about three years now and top it up with very few items that I can only get in the larger stores. Of course, this involves moving away from big brand names.

    Aldi is the way forward. Once sneered at by most, I now look forward to the uncrowded airy aisles and hassle free shopping. The German hams are succulent and about a third of the price of Tesco. There is a large range of essentials, lovely fruit and veg and several types of bread and the treats are second to none. German (again) luxury desserts and cakes. OK you can't get every single item required if having a dinner party but so what?? The staples are all there, the cleaning products are cheap and at Christmas the luxuries are mouth watering. I save about twenty EUR a week going there.

    Totally agree. I do buy a few brand name things in Tesco every 2 weeks but do my normal shop in Aldi. I wasn't in the humour of driving to Aldi last week, more fool me. Nipped into Tesco, got a small basket of stuff (1 small carrier bag full)... €45!!!!!!! I was shocked!! I had to check my receipt over and over again!!! At the weekend, went to Aldi, 2 HUGE bags of groceries, toileteries, toilet roll etc, €30.


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