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The new trafic mess on the Quay.

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    #152
    mooseknunkle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    There isnt much privacy with the toilet in the middle of the quay imagine the door swinging open half the town would see them!


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    #153
    Sully
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    LCDs are most probably in place with the contractor and he has a timescale to finish the works. He would have factored in the summer holidays in or otherwise he will pay the penalty, they seem to be a competent crew with good gear, really don't know what all the fuss is about, traffic a little slow when there are volume issues but that is traffic for you.
    Eggs and omellettes.

    But considering how long its taken to get the project done, with the whole stop-start approach, it seems a bit odd that the council felt it was okay to let a contractor take a break a few weeks into the project leaving an island of roadworks with cones all over the place. Its unsightly to say the least and really would have been better to start and finish within a period of time without a break.


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    #154
    wellboytoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    Sully wrote: »
    But considering how long its taken to get the project done, with the whole stop-start approach, it seems a bit odd that the council felt it was okay to let a contractor take a break a few weeks into the project leaving an island of roadworks with cones all over the place. Its unsightly to say the least and really would have been better to start and finish within a period of time without a break.

    Yes odd to say the least, Councils were never good at contractual wrangling and never really have the skills needed to wrap up a binding contract and enforce it.
    Point well made .


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    #155
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    Eggs and omellettes.

    And tourist season..........


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    #156
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Sully wrote: »
    But considering how long its taken to get the project done, with the whole stop-start approach, it seems a bit odd that the council felt it was okay to let a contractor take a break a few weeks into the project leaving an island of roadworks with cones all over the place. Its unsightly to say the least and really would have been better to start and finish within a period of time without a break.

    But this seems to be the core issue. No-one in the council taking responsibility and the contractor just tipping away at their own pace. The amount of bodies on the ground is paltry.


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    #157
    Hoffmans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    they are really going to feic up the flow of cars through the town two lanes off the bridgeinto 1 lane wont work only lead to long delays tailbacks and waste of expensive motor fuel in the process......


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    #158
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users Posts: 13,823 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    If they do it right, i'll be happy. One lane either way on the Quay is only a good thing. It will stop ignorant drivers bullying their way through two lanes up along the Quay, and should also stop ignorant feckers who block a lane to get the lotto. And no turning right will be great, less chances of accidents further delaying everyone.

    But, they're seriously taking the mick with it. I don't know the ins and outs of what they need to do, but from an outside view, they're taking their bloody time, and the condition of the road is playing havoc with my stiffened suspension - there's a particularly violent drop to a manhole/something just before the lights at the Clock Tower heading towards the bridge, honestly thought something broke when i hit it earlier.


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    #159
    honeybadger
    Registered Users Posts: 869 ✭✭✭honeybadger


    that sunken shore is there with years :P but i agree its fooking disgracefull to have to drive over that even in a normal car id feel your pain


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    #160
    Gadgie
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    wellboytoo wrote: »
    LCDs are most probably in place with the contractor and he has a timescale to finish the works. He would have factored in the summer holidays in or otherwise he will pay the penalty, they seem to be a competent crew with good gear, really don't know what all the fuss is about, traffic a little slow when there are volume issues but that is traffic for you.
    Eggs and omellettes.

    The timescale was 10 June to 19 July for both the quay roadworks and Bridge Street. Both remain unfinished with a significant amount of work still to be done, and the contractor has gone on holiday for two weeks - ridiculous.


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    #161
    7upfree
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    Gadgie wrote: »
    The timescale was 10 June to 19 July for both the quay roadworks and Bridge Street.

    But did they say which year.............................


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    #162
    S28382
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    Driving up the quay today heading from the clock tower i needed to turn back so i went around the roundabout... i didnt have to drive the whole length of the quay just to turn back :) it was great. The works will be a good thing for the place when they are finished.


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    #163
    Gadgie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Gadgie


    S28382 wrote: »
    The works will be a good thing for the place when they are finished.

    Agreed - I'm in support of the works, just not the length of time they're taking!

    Hopefully the entire quay will eventually be single lane. Too many people using it as a race track.


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    #164
    wmpdd3
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    The large fit path outside the bridge looks nice but when they remove the barrier they had better put up Bollards to stop cars turning right up bridge st from mounting the pavement. Cars take that turn to fast as it is.


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    #165
    S28382
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    I hope they do something about cars turning right coming over the bridge, anyone that does it holds up whatever is behind em.:mad:


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    #166
    Green Hornet
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    I posted a thread about that a couple of years ago and was shot down in flames.....

    It really is a disaster there every evening. They should stop right turns at peak times or something. It would be shorter for me to turn there as it happens but I always go straight up the hill.


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    #167
    deisediva
    Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭deisediva


    The mess on the quay is spilling onto the roads leading to it. Today it took me 25 mins from the fire station to get to city square car park. Madness when I can get to Kilkenny in 20/25mins. No wonder people are going out of town for shopping even with the toll that's going that way to avoid Quay I would get cheaper parking in Kilkenny and use same amount of petrol as I did today going and stopping in traffic.

    Wonder are they making the quay route more hassle for people to use in the hope people will start using the Toll more ?

    And why did they wait till summer when it's more busy with tourists !
    And don't get me started on that stupid train which is also not helping matters on the quay.


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    #168
    S28382
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    deisediva wrote: »
    The mess on the quay is spilling onto the roads leading to it. Today it took me 25 mins from the fire station to get to city square car park. Madness when I can get to Kilkenny in 20/25mins. No wonder people are going out of town for shopping even with the toll that's going that way to avoid Quay I would get cheaper parking in Kilkenny and use same amount of petrol as I did today going and stopping in traffic.

    Wonder are they making the quay route more hassle for people to use in the hope people will start using the Toll more ?

    And why did they wait till summer when it's more busy with tourists !
    And don't get me started on that stupid train which is also not helping matters on the quay.



    Uh Oh you just started the Kilkenny vs Waterford row. :D


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    #169
    deisediva
    Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭deisediva


    Not looking to start a row but can be anywhere Clonmel or Kilkenny. If they want to keep people shopping in Waterford they need to sort out the mess they have made the Quay :)


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    #170
    Dave_Power
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    Is it true that they are planting trees down the middle of the road? that would look lovely, that is if they plant the right type of trees.


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    #171
    iseegirls
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    S28382 wrote: »
    I hope they do something about cars turning right coming over the bridge, anyone that does it holds up whatever is behind em.:mad:

    I think they need to create a third lane at that end to stop the traffic from building up so much. That third lane would be used for cars turning right andwould be very small (allowing 2 cars at max), so it will allow the traffic going from Waterford to KK across the bridge to break into 2 rows of traffic again, once passed that segment.

    For cars coming from Reginalds tower to the bridge - have two lanes. Left - for cars that turn left and straight on. Right - for cars going onto the bridge.

    For cars coming down the hill/Bridge Street and onto the bridge - 2 lanes, left lane - cars go to left, right lane - cars go straight on (or should we re-allow cars to go right here onto the quay again? If so left lane be just straight on and left)


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    #172
    Potential-Monke
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    Dave_Power wrote: »
    Is it true that they are planting trees down the middle of the road? that would look lovely, that is if they plant the right type of trees.

    It's a terrible idea. Yeah, it'll look nice, but tell that to the families of the people who are going to get killed walking out between them to cross the road!

    Low flower boxes would suit better.


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    #173
    danjo-xx
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    I heard there is now a ship on the roundabout has anyone got a pic


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    #174
    wellboytoo
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    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    It's a terrible idea. Yeah, it'll look nice, but tell that to the families of the people who are going to get killed walking out between them to cross the road!

    Low flower boxes would suit better.
    Thats just Darwinism in action, they're enough controlled crossings on the quays to cross safely , if their to stupid to use them tough.


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    #175
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    what ye think of the sail ship in the middle of the roundabout by GPO?
    looks alright i think, could be better, could be a lot worse. glad to see it is a good few feet off the ground. I suppose you cant put anything to valuable/big in there - too many bad drivers.


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    #176
    wellboytoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    Could make a great story in the pub though,
    "I crashed into a ship on the Quay"!


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    #177
    O Riain
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    wellboytoo wrote: »
    Could make a great story in the pub though,
    "I crashed into a ship on the Quay"!

    Any pics?


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    #178
    wendydoll
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭wendydoll


    Just saw it on Cllr. Dee Jacques facebook page, anyone know what it looked like the bottom?

    I just hope people, especially tourist don't end up standing in the middle of the roundabout getting their photo taken with it :P

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=606796106021605&set=a.606796092688273.1073741837.531073263593890&type=1&theater


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    #179
    Sully
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    Another pic here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151865427272577&set=gm.10152079403202729&type=1&theater


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    #180
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    wendydoll wrote: »
    Just saw it on Cllr. Dee Jacques facebook page, anyone know what it looked like the bottom?

    I just hope people, especially tourist don't end up standing in the middle of the roundabout getting their photo taken with it :P

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=606796106021605&set=a.606796092688273.1073741837.531073263593890&type=1&theater

    I know your joking but, it aint so pretty/unusual that people would want a pic of standing with it. on the other hand, there is a lot of nuts out there..


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    #181
    wendydoll
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭wendydoll


    Max Powers wrote: »
    I know your joking but, it aint so pretty/unusual that people would want a pic of standing with it. on the other hand, there is a lot of nuts out there..

    Ah you know it'll happen... After the summer I spent working in the tourist office nothing surprises me.


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