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The new trafic mess on the Quay.

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    #122
    ei9go
    Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭ei9go


    A lot of the traffic is caused by the fact that the bypass is a toll road. This has the effect of causing people to drive along the Quay and out the Dunmore Rd rather than pay and use the easier route.

    The toll eliminates the reduction in traffic that the bypass should provide.


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    #123
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    wendydoll wrote: »
    Where is the traffic meant to go if they can't drive up Summer Hill?

    Straight on, left onto O'Connell St, left again and then left onto the Quay, then straight out Bilberry.

    Traffic for minor right turns is often forced to go around the block in cities all over the world. Can't remember where I saw it, was it Pittsburgh or Melbourne, but they basically have no turns across traffic, you just have to do three lefts if you want to do a right (or three rights to do a left because they drive on the opposite side in Pittsburgh).


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    #124
    wendydoll
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭wendydoll


    7upfree wrote: »
    If anything there should be NO right turn to Bilberry. if there is, traffic should not be allowed up Summer Hill. Again another example of traffic "management" in Waterford City.
    fricatus wrote: »
    Straight on, left onto O'Connell St, left again and then left onto the Quay, then straight out Bilberry.

    Traffic for minor right turns is often forced to go around the block in cities all over the world. Can't remember where I saw it, was it Pittsburgh or Melbourne, but they basically have no turns across traffic, you just have to do three lefts if you want to do a right (or three rights to do a left because they drive on the opposite side in Pittsburgh).

    I may be confused but I thought 7upfree meant if there "was/is" a right turn/filter lane onto bilberry cars would not be allow to continue up Summer Hill. Which would make very little sense to anyone going to schools/ hypercentre or that general area.


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    #125
    Green Hornet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    That right turn at Bilberry is a complete disaster........I'm regularly stuck on the bridge through multiple light changes with one person sitting there blocking everybody else.


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    #126
    wendydoll
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭wendydoll


    Green Hornet wrote: »
    That right turn at Bilberry is a complete disaster........I'm regularly stuck on the bridge through multiple light changes with one person sitting there blocking everybody else.

    Or you're behind the person turning into Bilberry, they make the turn, you start to cross the junction and you have some fool bombing up the wrong lane who then tries to cut back in /bully in their way into the correct lane and up Summer Hill


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    #127
    Green Hornet
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    Yeah - anything is better than the current set up there. Absolute disaster.


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    #128
    O Riain
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    A fairly simple solution to the problems people not using the bypass cause of the toll - move the toll. Move it to the start of the motorway to Dublin, that way the bypass can free the city of traffic and revenue for the toll will actually increase. Everyones happy


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    #129
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    wendydoll wrote: »
    Where is the traffic meant to go if they can't drive up Summer Hill?

    It would be silly to suggest people turn out bilberry and back down gracedieu or up bridge street and across the glen and out by the Philip street to bring kids to school etc

    There is an insane suggestion that we divert traffic out Bilberry. Around a hairpin bend. Through populated areas which have only in recent years seen a HGV ban.

    If you enforce a right turn it will cause a tailback across the bridge (of traffic waiting to use Summer Hill).

    If anything, traffic should only be allowed DOWN Bilberry - with it being made one way only.


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    #130
    nujeebaby
    Registered Users Posts: 36 ✭nujeebaby


    ei9go wrote: »
    A lot of the traffic is caused by the fact that the bypass is a toll road. This has the effect of causing people to drive along the Quay and out the Dunmore Rd rather than pay and use the easier route.

    The toll eliminates the reduction in traffic that the bypass should provide.

    If you're heading towards the Dunmore road from where the bypass starts the shortest way is straight through the city centre and is 7km, taking the bypass doubles that and the toll is added to the cost.


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    #131
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    nujeebaby wrote: »
    If you're heading towards the Dunmore road from where the bypass starts the shortest way is straight through the city centre and is 7km, taking the bypass doubles that and the toll is added to the cost.

    But you don't get caught on the Quay. Which is what they're banking on. The bypass is in the wrong place for city users really.


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    #132
    wendydoll
    Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭wendydoll


    7upfree wrote: »
    There is an insane suggestion that we divert traffic out Bilberry. Around a hairpin bend

    I didn't hear about this, diverting traffic out Bilberry :eek: what bright spark thought this is an excellent idea?


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    #133
    Rubberlegs
    Registered Users Posts: 7,073 ✭✭✭Rubberlegs


    fricatus wrote: »
    So either you wait in a big queue like a sheep (baaaa!) or else you barrel down the outside and force your way in. Not ideal either way.

    The way to fix this is simple, and they use it in the States all the time. A few signs saying "Use Both Lanes" leading up to the works, and then one at the start of the works saying "Merge In Turn".

    I'd excuse someone passing through who was not wise to the situation on the Quay. But those who know well, and still hammer along to force their way in are just arrogant:mad:. A car with a trailer rammed it's way in front of me, at the new roundabout a few weeks back. He didn't care, he wasn't stopping, even though he could see I was clearly not preparing to let him in. Ignorance! If I'm feeling helpful , my policy is to let one and only one, merge in front of me. It's the good samaritans, partly causing the hold up!


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    #134
    Max Powers
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    O Riain wrote: »
    A fairly simple solution to the problems people not using the bypass cause of the toll - move the toll. Move it to the start of the motorway to Dublin, that way the bypass can free the city of traffic and revenue for the toll will actually increase. Everyones happy

    not a bad idea but probably unworkable, toll co. dont own motorway, half of south KK would drive thru Kilamcow/old road daily etc


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    #135
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Max Powers wrote: »
    not a bad idea but probably unworkable, toll co. dont own motorway, half of south KK would drive thru Kilamcow/old road daily etc

    Furthermore, the toll isn't on the motorway.

    It's on the N25 Waterford bypass.


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    #136
    siralan
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭siralan


    I live just off a main road and there is a private avenue to our front gate, there is also a second house on the avenue and access to a field which is owned by a farmer although he does not use it. We have been paying around €550 per year insurance on the avenue for past 5 years between us. The avenue is owned by a management company which is made up of myself, the farmer and my next door neighbour. The chances of an accident are minimal however you never know. We were wondering if we put up a sign at end of avenue that it is a private lane or that trespassers enter at own risk would it give us any protection? It is owned by a ltd company which should mean we can not be sued by an opportunist or even if there was a genuine accident. Obviously our big fear is that the wrong person could sue us personally??

    Has anyone had a similar situation to this ??


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    #137
    Sully
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    siralan wrote: »
    I live just off a main road and there is a private avenue to our front gate, there is also a second house on the avenue and access to a field which is owned by a farmer although he does not use it. We have been paying around €550 per year insurance on the avenue for past 5 years between us. The avenue is owned by a management company which is made up of myself, the farmer and my next door neighbour. The chances of an accident are minimal however you never know. We were wondering if we put up a sign at end of avenue that it is a private lane or that trespassers enter at own risk would it give us any protection? It is owned by a ltd company which should mean we can not be sued by an opportunist or even if there was a genuine accident. Obviously our big fear is that the wrong person could sue us personally??

    Has anyone had a similar situation to this ??

    What has this to do with Waterford / The Quay?


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    #138
    wmpdd3
    Registered Users Posts: 9,624 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    7upfree wrote: »
    I agree. What they need to do is to convert one of those to a free car park (strictly monitored and with penalties if you stay more than two hours). The worse thing that was ever done was to hand some of the car parks over to private companies.

    Doesn't need top be free, if the car park at the bridge was 1 euro per hour id park there and shop in the city. it would reduce the amount of traffic travelling the lender of the quay to the bolten st car park.

    I'd park in the Glen but I can't get to town with the buggy as thereare to many cars parked on the footpaths.God I'd hate to be a wheelchair user.


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    #139
    BBM77
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭BBM77


    ei9go wrote: »
    A lot of the traffic is caused by the fact that the bypass is a toll road. This has the effect of causing people to drive along the Quay and out the Dunmore Rd rather than pay and use the easier route.

    The toll eliminates the reduction in traffic that the bypass should provide.

    Tolling bypasses is completely illogical as far as I am concerned. The whole point of a bypass is to encourage traffic away from an existing route through an urban area therefore freeing it up for local traffic. In this country we have it backwards. Toll the bypasses and so encourage people to go through the towns.


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    #140
    wmpdd3
    Registered Users Posts: 9,624 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    I think you have a point, I havent used the toll since the tall ships! I never forgave them for charging me when I had to go to work!

    To be honest, if the traffic is too heave I just go to New Ross!


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    #141
    Gadgie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Gadgie


    The Friday 19 July deadline for these works to be finished has passed - quelle surprise. Looks like a lot of work still has to be done.


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    #142
    Sully
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    Gadgie wrote: »
    The Friday 19 July deadline for these works to be finished has passed - quelle surprise. Looks like a lot of work still has to be done.

    They have kerbing complete in one of the 'islands' and they have done work on the roundabout. They were working at 10pm one evening down by the bridge.

    Looking forward to the eventual finished product!


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    #143
    Gadgie
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    Sully wrote: »
    They have kerbing complete in one of the 'islands' and they have done work on the roundabout. They were working at 10pm one evening down by the bridge.

    Looking forward to the eventual finished product!

    Me too, but I think they should be working on it until 10pm every night until it's finished! They've already been at it for six weeks, and it wouldn't surprise me if it's at least another six before it's finished.


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    #144
    wmpdd3
    Registered Users Posts: 9,624 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    To me it looks like the council built a lovely smoking section for the bridge hotel, I thought the were building a coach parking space that wouldn't block traffic on the quay.


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    #145
    Jambo
    Registered Users Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Jambo


    Gadgie wrote: »
    Me too, but I think they should be working on it until 10pm every night until it's finished! They've already been at it for six weeks, and it wouldn't surprise me if it's at least another six before it's finished.


    I was just told they are now on builders holidays! the mind boggles when there's so little work out there for these guys you would think the last thing that they would need is more time off, although it was said to me that these are the standard/set construction union holidays!

    I would have tought they would have tried to close this off in advance of the spraoi


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    #146
    Sully
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    Jambo wrote: »
    I was just told they are now on builders holidays! the mind boggles when there's so little work out there for these guys you would think the last thing that they would need is more time off, although it was said to me that these are the standard/set construction union holidays!

    I would have tought they would have tried to close this off in advance of the spraoi

    Ah your joking? Sure they only started a few weeks ago!


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    #147
    wmpdd3
    Registered Users Posts: 9,624 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Oh yeah last week in July, first week in August, builders holidays. That's hilarious. app it looks like summer is not the best time to do road works.


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    #148
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    wmpdd3 wrote: »
    Oh yeah last week in July, first week in August, builders holidays. That's hilarious. app it looks like summer is not the best time to do road works.

    im a firm supporter of these works, i think they will be great when done but surely not, they havent gone on builders holidays? the council need their head examined, all projects come with deadlines and penaltys these days. Silly council if not.


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    #149
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Sully wrote: »
    They have kerbing complete in one of the 'islands' and they have done work on the roundabout. They were working at 10pm one evening down by the bridge.

    Looking forward to the eventual finished product!

    Whenever that will be. Did the City Council ever hear of penalty clauses??


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    #150
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Max Powers wrote: »
    the council need their head examined
    These works are testament to that.


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    #151
    wellboytoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    7upfree wrote: »
    These works are testament to that.

    LCDs are most probably in place with the contractor and he has a timescale to finish the works. He would have factored in the summer holidays in or otherwise he will pay the penalty, they seem to be a competent crew with good gear, really don't know what all the fuss is about, traffic a little slow when there are volume issues but that is traffic for you.
    Eggs and omellettes.


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