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LETS ALL LAUGH AT PEOPLE WITH DEPRESSION!!

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    #932
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Captain Darling wrote: »
    John McCarthy died yesterday, founder of Mad Pride. A good man. RIP.

    A great man. RIP.


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    #933
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Stupidusername, you've managed 14k posts on Boards and not been kicked off... I think you dont have many worries about social interaction within normal social constraints :) and you shouldnt let scare stories worry you. People who are taken into care are the very extremes of the spectrum these days, people who are a serious, immediate danger to themselves and others. Seek help if you need it, its out there.

    DeV.


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    #934
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Temptamperu wrote: »
    Damn im having the worst of it at the minute, im so down and out since stephens's day and theres nothing will lift it. I went to the Doctor today and hes sending me up to aa psychiatrists as he dosent want to change me meds, which is a good thing as hes a GP and dosent know his way around the anti-psychotics.
    He did gimme a really strong sleeping pill as even though im fatigued as shít I havent slept more than 4 hours since last thursday, and the madness is setting in.
    I truly wish I was dead just so I dont have to feel like this anymore.
    Get some sleep my friend, please go see your psychiatrist too. Things always seem a bit better after a solid nights sleep.

    DeV.


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    #935
    opinion guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    nesf wrote: »
    Not true, some people have to be because they're in no fit state of mind to make such a decision for themselves. It's an unfortunate reality of the diseases.

    I said almost nobody.
    nesf wrote: »
    If I remember correctly a doctor can do it on their own for a set period of time, I can't remember whether doctors can keep extending it or whether the family has to sign off on it after a certain point.

    Not true!!! It takes the assessment of 2 psychiatrists to get you admitted to psych ward against your will and they have to follow strict protocols. Alot of people go in voluntarily

    Nesf - don't be putting out wrong info - look at what stupidusername said - you may be putting people off going to A&E should they need to


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    #936
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    DeVore wrote: »
    Get some sleep my friend, please go see your psychiatrist too. Things always seem a bit better after a solid nights sleep.

    DeV.
    ps: I have been having the same issue, couldnt sleep for more than 4-5 hours and things started getting that "surreal" look about them. Like someone is driving my body around on a stick from 4 foot back... if that makes sense.

    DeV.


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    #937
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    stupidusername wrote: »
    and that's why I was afraid to go to casualty.

    You shouldn't be tbh. It's really not that bad and if you need to be somewhere safe, you need to be somewhere safe. That and doctors in my experience really don't want to do it to you if it can be at all avoided.


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    #938
    cloud493
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Can a doctor, or GP, put you in secure psychiatric care, as it were?


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    #939
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    DeVore wrote: »
    Stupidusername, you've managed 14k posts on Boards and not been kicked off... I think you dont have many worries about social interaction within normal social constraints :)

    eek, you've no idea DeV! :o


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    #940
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    opinion guy wrote: »
    Not true!!! It takes the assessment of 2 psychiatrists to get you admitted to psych ward against your will and they have to follow strict protocols. Alot of people go in voluntarily

    Nesf - don't be putting out wrong info - look at what stupidusername said - you may be putting people off going to A&E should they need to

    Sorry, I was thinking of two psychiatrists when I said a doctor could do it, you're right I should be as precise as possible here.

    It's not what I'm saying that puts off people really, it's what they think a locked ward is like is the problem and the fear of the big house on the hill and people referring to them as prisons. Stupidusername fears that a psychiatrist in A&E can lock them up against their will, the reality is they can with the agreement of a second psychiatrist. They won't unless it's absolutely necessary but they can do it as a last resort. Tackle the perception of what a locked ward is like, it's utterly pointless trying to play down the fact that psychiatrists have the power to involuntarily commit people.


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    #941
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    DeVore wrote: »
    ps: I have been having the same issue, couldnt sleep for more than 4-5 hours and things started getting that "surreal" look about them. Like someone is driving my body around on a stick from 4 foot back... if that makes sense.

    DeV.
    Yeah i feel like im looking through a tunnel at somebody else's life, I cant eat cant stand being around people, I swear if I didnt have boards i would be fúcked right now.
    Im a take that sleeper and hit the sticks though.
    Cheers DeV


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    #942
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Boy I know that feeling.... I like to remind myself that it isnt the best time for me to be making serious decisions :)


    DeV.


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    #943
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    cloud493 wrote: »
    Can a doctor, or GP, put you in secure psychiatric care, as it were?

    Not quite. They can apply for you to be committed but can't commit you. They can arrange for you to be taken to a psychiatric hospital but you won't be committed until after you've been assessed there independently and that has to happen within 24 hours or you get released immediately.

    Details: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/mental_health/admission_to_a_psychiatric_hospital.html

    In other words, a GP can put you in a psychiatric hospital for up to 24 hours but if the staff there don't feel like you need to be involuntarily committed (and they take these things extremely seriously) then you'll be released, potentially within a few hours. It way more common to go in voluntarily though. And from experience I recommend you to go if it's suggested, going into hospital has generally been a really good idea for me health wise.


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    #944
    Dudess
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    Captain Darling wrote: »
    John McCarthy died yesterday, founder of Mad Pride. A good man. RIP.

    :eek:

    Fuk! I interviewed him twice - nice man, if tough. :o

    His descent into mental illness was tragic: lost his business, friends - much due to the stigma. His description of St Stephen's Hospital in Cork seemed very OFOTCN. He worked so hard to destroy that stigma.

    So long John...


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    #945
    thomasj
    Registered Users Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Just thought id mention that there is a programme covering depression within british sport on bbc1 right now.


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    #946
    efb
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    watching it.


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    #947
    flahavaj
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    DeVore wrote: »
    Get some sleep my friend, please go see your psychiatrist too. Things always seem a bit better after a solid nights sleep.

    DeV.

    It might seem like the most obvious and simple thing in the world but getting sleep is so important. I started going to bed an hour early since Christmas and the differenece physically and more importantly mentally is quite significant.

    Actually its past my bedtime!:pac:


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    #948
    Captain Darling
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    Dudess wrote: »
    :eek:

    Fuk! I interviewed him twice - nice man, if tough. :o

    His descent into mental illness was tragic: lost his business, friends - much due to the stigma. His description of St Stephen's Hospital in Cork seemed very OFOTCN. He worked so hard to destroy that stigma.

    So long John...

    I heard him on national radio several times. What took him is a horrible thing but he didnt even let that get him down. An amazing man and always got his message across in a lovely, funny way.


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    #949
    meglome
    Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    DeVore wrote: »
    I suffer from depression.

    To be fair Tom we always thought you were mental :D


    On a more serious note that is one of the best things I've ever read about depression. It's has always been far too hidden in this country, with people ashamed to admit it to themselves or especially to anyone else. I won't suggest I really understand what it's like but really fair play to you for posting it.

    (You made me post in AH, I feel all dirty now.)


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    #950
    cloud493
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    The stigma surrounding this is the worst thing. Recently(start of December) I started short sleeves with my scars, for a confidence things as it goes. The looks I've been getting off people are terrible :(


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    #951
    AngryPensioner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭AngryPensioner


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Good article on theJournal.ie tonight

    http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/column-mental-illness-isn%E2%80%99t-abnormal-%E2%80%93-it%E2%80%99s-part-of-being-human/

    Worth a read

    And no mention of unproven chemical imbalances in sight:)

    I would largely agree with his views on the matter. God Bless that man. He stood up for what is right. That is highly commendable. Motor Neuron disease is an evil disease. RIP.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/health/2011/1011/1224305573629.html


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    #952
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Some forms of incense might act as an antidepressant?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080520110415.htm


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    #953
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    well, I finally got seen by a psych. a new guy, who basically asked my whole history all over again. but after a few minutes of talking, he said that he thinks meds will only do so much for me and that what I really need is to get talking. (what I've been saying all along) So he said that either I can pay for it (which I can't) or he can look into the free services that are there, for me. I've an appointment with him again in 3 weeks, to discuss those services with him, and he's going to see where I am on the waiting list, though he said that I'm not considered to be at high risk.

    He also said that he's in the hospital 9-5 monday to friday, so that if things do get bad for me, I can call in there and talk to him.

    I feel a little better with it now. though I'm not sure about being left on this dose. for the first time though I felt like he actually listened, and understood me. everyone else has just been dishing out drugs and sending me on my way.


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    #954
    jaffacakesyum
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    stupidusername wrote: »
    well, I finally got seen by a psych. a new guy, who basically asked my whole history all over again. but after a few minutes of talking, he said that he thinks meds will only do so much for me and that what I really need is to get talking. (what I've been saying all along) So he said that either I can pay for it (which I can't) or he can look into the free services that are there, for me. I've an appointment with him again in 3 weeks, to discuss those services with him, and he's going to see where I am on the waiting list, though he said that I'm not considered to be at high risk.

    He also said that he's in the hospital 9-5 monday to friday, so that if things do get bad for me, I can call in there and talk to him.

    I feel a little better with it now. though I'm not sure about being left on this dose. for the first time though I felt like he actually listened, and understood me. everyone else has just been dishing out drugs and sending me on my way.

    Great news! meds can only do so much in some cases. I guess talking to a professional is sometimes the most important bit


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    #955
    Temaz
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    cloud493 wrote: »
    The stigma surrounding this is the worst thing. Recently(start of December) I started short sleeves with my scars, for a confidence things as it goes. The looks I've been getting off people are terrible :(

    Have scarred arms also and get looks all the time, Im really considering
    getting tattos to cover them!!


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    #956
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    stupidusername wrote: »
    well, I finally got seen by a psych. a new guy, who basically asked my whole history all over again. but after a few minutes of talking, he said that he thinks meds will only do so much for me and that what I really need is to get talking. (what I've been saying all along) So he said that either I can pay for it (which I can't) or he can look into the free services that are there, for me. I've an appointment with him again in 3 weeks, to discuss those services with him, and he's going to see where I am on the waiting list, though he said that I'm not considered to be at high risk.

    He also said that he's in the hospital 9-5 monday to friday, so that if things do get bad for me, I can call in there and talk to him.

    I feel a little better with it now. though I'm not sure about being left on this dose. for the first time though I felt like he actually listened, and understood me. everyone else has just been dishing out drugs and sending me on my way.

    Excellent news, getting a psych you have a good relationship with is a very important first step in these things. Hopefully your wait for talk therapy won't be too long!


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    #957
    Wattle
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    Temaz wrote: »
    Have scarred arms also and get looks all the time, Im really considering
    getting tattos to cover them!!

    Someday if I can afford it i'm going to get some plastic surgery on my scars. They remind me of bad times.


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    #958
    cloud493
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    They're a part of me. So I've tried to not be ashamed of them in public. But.... :(


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    #959
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Frontline on RTE One discussing depression atm. Good to see.


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    #960
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    George Hook talking about his depression on Frontline. Echoing what has been said here. Trying to recognise his triggers and trying to avoid them. He is an interesting guy.


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    #961
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    George Hook talking about his depression on Frontline. Echoing what has been said here. Trying to recognise his triggers and trying to avoid them. He is an interesting guy.

    He's also spouting a lot of nonsense about suicide (people don't make dates apparently) and anti-meds talk that is dangerous on a platform like this. Yes antidepressants are overprescribed, should we talk negatively about drugs as a whole? Of course not.

    Replace the man with a good psychologist specialising in mood disorders and we'd have a far, far more useful show tonight.


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