More stupid in America..

RichieC

Companies like Dell, Walmart, Lowes and Campbells have pulled their advertising from a TLC show called 'All American Muslims' - the show portrays a normal American family who are muslim..

the reasons are just great, wait for this ****;

“The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish,”

“Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.”

That's right, the same company pulled ads from seventh heaven years back for daring to show a normal Christian family without highlighting the dangers of things like the KKK or the Timothy Mc Veighs... oh wait.. no they didnt.

Truly the land of the free. :pac:

Kojak

Is this the first non spam/lock thread in AH tonight??

Temptamperu

you cant show normal muslims, the poor americans* will get confused.


*not all americans theres just some that shouldnt be allowed near scissors.

Chuck Stone

Fucking appalling.

Can you imagine the fucking stink that would be kicked up if this was a Jewish or Black or Christian family?

El Weirdo

That's fucking mental. Have you got a link to this story, OP?

JohnathanM

RichieC wrote: »

That's right, the same company pulled ads from seventh heaven years back for daring to show a normal Christian family without highlighting the dangers of things like the KKK or the Timothy Mc Veighs... oh wait.. no they didnt.

Well, to be fair, Tim was a terrorist enraged by government ineptitude and its increasingly overbearing manner. The KKK meanwhile just didn't like blacks, and did nasty things to them. They're not really comparable to some members of a religion who want to change the Western culture into which they have imported themselves, and bring us to the enlightened world-view and societal model which we see in the Muslim world and of which we are all of course completely jealous (women particularly). Minority perhaps, but fairly vocal as collapsing buildings and Sharia law in England might let you know.

RichieC wrote: »

Truly the land of the free. :pac:

I think their actions point out that there is indeed freedom, in so far as how you spend your money at least.

RichieC

oh sorry, I didn't cite

linkie: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/09/ads-all-american-muslim/

RichieC

JohnathanM wrote: »

Well, to be fair, Tim was a terrorist enraged by government ineptitude and its increasingly overbearing manner. The KKK meanwhile just didn't like blacks, and did nasty things to them. They're not really comparable to some members of a religion who want to change the Western culture into which they have imported themselves, and bring us to the enlightened world-view and societal model which we see in the Muslim world and of which we are all of course completely jealous (women particularly). Minority perhaps, but fairly vocal as collapsing buildings and Sharia law in England might let you know..

you're falling into the same trap and will get the same kinda glib response the crap in the OP got.

mattjack

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Fucking appalling.

Can you imagine the fucking stink that would be kicked up if this was a Jewish or Black or Christian family?

that comment covers all my family Jewish , Black and Christian, even got some Cavan people too

WoollyRedHat

These guys are fascists pure and simple... it is crazy to think that after decades of suffering to gain the civil rights movement, that discrimination is still prevalent, same thinking, different people. http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/all-american-muslim

The businesses who bowed to pressure as a result of the campaign by Florida Family
http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=108 by pulling their advertisements are cowardly and disgusting, their way of thinking has no place in a modern progressive world. **** them.

Professor Knowall

Temptamperu wrote: »

you cant show normal muslims, the poor americans* will get confused.


*not all americans theres just some that shouldnt be allowed near scissors.

Isn't that an oxymoron?:eek:

RichieC

They claim Volkswagen have cancelled too /facepalm

Chuck Stone

mattjack wrote: »

that comment covers all my family Jewish , Black and Christian, even got some Cavan people too

I don't condone Cavan people inter-breeding with normal people. They're just watering down good genes.

Key1

Here we go again, RichieC and his anti-American agenda.... he always seems to slap America regardless of the topic.... can I ask Richie, what makes you so anti-American? And why feel the need to put it into peoples faces on boards constantly? It's getting bloody annoying tbh, I think you have issues

JohnathanM

RichieC wrote: »

They claim Volkswagen have cancelled too /facepalm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnL-7x4n4d8

RichieC

Key1 wrote: »

Here we go again, RichieC and his anti-American agenda.... he always seems to slap America regardless of the topic.... can I ask Richie, what makes you so anti-American? And why feel the need to put it into peoples faces on boards constantly? It's getting bloody annoying tbh, I think you have issues

I think a sign up to attack you means you won the internet

mattjack

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I don't condone Cavan people inter-breeding with normal people. They're just watering down good genes.

Sir, I admire your integ answer , my Black Jewish herei family are happy

mattjack

also Linden Village says no more typing

Hank_Jones

Perscution for some, miniature American flags for others.

orourkeda

What's the world coming to?

Can't we just hate everyone equally?

Den_M

Even though Megaman strictly has nothing to do with the thread, I think he can impart his awesomeness, Am i right?
http://www.dan-dare.org/Dan%20Megaman/MegamanBig.jpg

El Weirdo

What would Jesus do?

Key1

RichieC wrote: »

I think a sign up to attack you means you won the internet

But you are just annoying people with your constant rhetoric and talking through your arse about the States, do you not see this?

Den_M

I could not enclose a graphical image of his awesomeness and that chaffes my nipples

Chuck Stone

El Weirdo wrote: »

What would Jesus do?

He'd be very cross.

El Weirdo

Chuck Stone wrote: »

He'd be very cross.

Hmmm...

Chuck Stone

Key1 wrote: »

But you are just annoying people with your constant rhetoric and talking through your arse about the States, do you not see this?

Your second post and you're accusation rumbles that you are a re-reg.

Oh lordy..

RichieC

Key1 wrote: »

But you are just annoying people with your constant rhetoric and talking through your arse about the States, do you not see this?

It is clearly annoying you. :P

seanybiker

RichieC wrote: »

It is clearly annoying you. :P

Not annoying me anyways . I love laughing at other people

FTGFOP

RichieC wrote: »

Truly the land of the free. :pac:

I don't get this comment. What would you have happen?

Solnskaya

US of A " Syria has beaten and abused its own people and must be punished". Don't mention how the good old US of A battered its own "Occupy whatever" protesters off the streets though. "Land of the free"?? GTFO.

lcrcboy

RichieC wrote: »

Companies like Dell, Walmart, Lowes and Campbells have pulled their advertising from a TLC show called 'All American Muslims' - the show portrays a normal American family who are muslim..

the reasons are just great, wait for this ****;



That's right, the same company pulled ads from seventh heaven years back for daring to show a normal Christian family without highlighting the dangers of things like the KKK or the Timothy Mc Veighs... oh wait.. no they didnt.

Truly the land of the free. :pac:

Im getting sick of these threads to, I mean there seems to be one of these stupid anti-american threads nearly every second day now. Cant you just get over it and leave it be.

RichieC

FTGFOP wrote: »

I don't get this comment. What would you have happen?

It's a country where the religious fringes (mostly Christian supremacists) have an awful lot of power.

WoollyRedHat

I don't actually agree with the title, but the topic of the thread is valid and worthy of discussion, if you don't like it you can scroll on.

lcrcboy

Solnskaya wrote: »

US of A " Syria has beaten and abused its own people and must be punished". Don't mention how the good old US of A battered its own "Occupy whatever" protesters off the streets though. "Land of the free"?? GTFO.

the USA and its bad treatment of occupy wall street protesters does not come anywhere near the level of violence the Syrian government has committed against its people, nearly 4000 people so far have died.

Coriolanus

El Weirdo wrote: »

What would Jesus do?

http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/robmilleniumfix1.png

There's a cyanide and happiness strip for every occassion.

Mike 1972

Dunno where I stand on this one. The concept sounds laudable enough in theory but in practice probably amounts to a muslim version of the cosby show <shudder>

JohnathanM wrote: »

Sharia law in England .

:rolleyes:

JohnathanM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Why the rolling eyes? If you doubt it's happening, well...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jul/05/sharia-law-religious-courts

You might also read the attached report, which should make clear to you its operation.

FTGFOP

RichieC wrote: »

It's a country where the religious fringes (mostly Christian supremacists) have an awful lot of power.

You missed my question, what would you have done about it?

You sound like you're gloating with that comment in the OP.

RichieC

JohnathanM wrote: »

Why the rolling eyes? If you doubt it's happening, well...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jul/05/sharia-law-religious-courts

You might also read the attached report, which should make clear to you its operation.

afaik the so - called shariah courts in the UK are private and for civil matters, if I'm not mistaken the Jewish people living in England have had a pretty similar setup (beth din) for a long time.

It is illegal for one of these courts to apply a punishment outside of the greater law of the UK.

Chuck Stone

lcrcboy wrote: »

the USA and its bad treatment of occupy wall street protesters does not come anywhere near the level of violence the Syrian government has committed against its people, nearly 4000 people so far have died.

You're right - we need to put this incident in context.

1947-49 - U.S. helps command extreme-right Greece party in Civil War.
Death toll: about 70,000 contributed by US-backed forces

1948-54 - CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion in Philippines.
Death toll: about 11,000

1950 - Independence movement crushed in Ponce, Puerto Rico
Death toll: conservative historians estimated about 8,000 peasants

1950-53 - Korean War
Death toll: about 1,776,000

1952 - CIA overthrows Democracy in Iran, installs Shah
Death toll: about 20,000

1954 - CIA directs invasion of Guatemala after new Democracy there nationalized U.S.-occupied lands
Death toll: about 140,000 missing and dead

1958 - In Lebanon, marine occupation against rebels
Death toll: about 2,000

1960-75+ - Vietnam War including Cambodia and Laos
Death toll: about 4,502,000 including civilians and resulting famines (conservative estimates)

1961 - Cuba's Bay of Pigs Invasion fails
Death toll: about 4,000

1963 - In Iraq, CIA organizes coup against President and agrees to back formerly exiled Saddam
Death toll: about 7,000 including civilians

1964 - In Panama, troops kill protesters against US-owned canal
Death toll: about 1,000

1965 - CIA assists Indonesian coup
Death toll: about 900,000

1966 - Troops and bombers threaten pro-communist parties in Dominican Republic
Death toll: about 3,000

1966-96 - Green berets in Guatemala against rebels, US backs pro-American forces in country until 1996
Death toll: about 200,000

1970 - Directs marine invasion of Oman
Death toll: about 2,000

1973 - CIA directs coup to oust elected Marxist president in Chile
Death toll: 30,000... 3,000 later disappeared under US-installed dictator

1976-92 - CIA assists South-African rebels in Angola
Death toll: median estimate at 550,000

1981-90 - CIA directs Contra invasions in Nicaragua
Death toll: median estimate at 30,000

1982-84 - Marines expel Lebanese rebels, aided by Israel
Death toll: 40,000

1987-88 - US intervenes for Iraq against Iran
Death toll: about 150,000 during time-frame, 100,000 during Desert Storm, 350,000 from resulting famine

1989 - US invades to oust CIA-installed Panamanian government gone rouge
Death toll: 2,000

1992-94 - US-led occupation of Somalia during civil war
Death toll: 50,000 in combat, 300,000 by starvation

2001+ - US Occupies Afghanistan
Death toll: 120,000 including civilians and combatants and resulting Opium Wars

2003+ - Iraqi War
Death toll: 665,000 also by starvation, displacement


TOTAL: 10,431,000

But they were 'bad guys' so it's okay.

woodoo

America just doesn't want much to do with Muslims.. that's their business though.

mickrock

What do you call a Muslim who flies a plane?

A pilot.

El Weirdo

woodoo wrote: »

America just doesn't want much to do with Muslims.. that's their business though.

Then maybe they should get rid of the following clause from their constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

AhSureTisGrand

I don't see why you care so much about this Muslim family Richie. They are "All American" after all.

RichieC

FTGFOP wrote: »

You missed my question, what would you have done about it?

You sound like you're gloating with that comment in the OP.

Done about what? the contents of the OP? pointed and laughed, I suppose..

laugh or cry the choice is yours.

JohnathanM

RichieC wrote: »

afaik the so - called shariah courts in the UK are private and for civil matters, if I'm not mistaken the Jewish people living in England have had a pretty similar setup (beth din) for a long time.

It is illegal for one of these courts to apply a punishment outside of the greater law of the UK.

Correct, but there have been instances in the past of judgment in criminal cases - such as domestic violence - and the UK government had to step in to make clear that these "external courts" have no competence here. Jewish courts are outside of scope of this discussion, but in reality any arbitration can be binding outside of a "real" court when both parties freely agree. In my opinion though, no court based on religion should be allowed to exist in a modern state.

Chuck Stone

woodoo wrote: »

America just doesn't want much to do with Muslims.. that's their business though.

With America being the global Mafia policeman it's kinda everyone's business.

Mike 1972

RichieC wrote: »

afaik the so - called shariah courts in the UK are private and for civil matters, if I'm not mistaken the Jewish people living in England have had a pretty similar setup (beth din) for a long time.

It is illegal for one of these courts to apply a punishment outside of the greater law of the UK.

Indeed the only people compelled to abide by the decisions of these private arbitration tribunals are those willing to submit to their juristiction in the first place.

Anyway this thread is supposed to be about the United States.

ThePower11

Damn I loved seventh heaven

JohnathanM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Indeed the only people compelled to abide by the decisions of these private arbitration tribunals are those willing to submit to their juristiction in the first place.

This assumes that both parties in the dispute are equal, and that's when reality gets in the way of theory. The word of a woman is after all worth only half that of a man's.