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More stupid in America..

  • 11-12-2011 12:02am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭


    Companies like Dell, Walmart, Lowes and Campbells have pulled their advertising from a TLC show called 'All American Muslims' - the show portrays a normal American family who are muslim..

    the reasons are just great, wait for this ****;
    “The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish,”
    “Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.”

    That's right, the same company pulled ads from seventh heaven years back for daring to show a normal Christian family without highlighting the dangers of things like the KKK or the Timothy Mc Veighs... oh wait.. no they didnt.

    Truly the land of the free. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Is this the first non spam/lock thread in AH tonight??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    you cant show normal muslims, the poor americans* will get confused.


    *not all americans theres just some that shouldnt be allowed near scissors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Fucking appalling.

    Can you imagine the fucking stink that would be kicked up if this was a Jewish or Black or Christian family?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    That's fucking mental. Have you got a link to this story, OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    RichieC wrote: »
    That's right, the same company pulled ads from seventh heaven years back for daring to show a normal Christian family without highlighting the dangers of things like the KKK or the Timothy Mc Veighs... oh wait.. no they didnt.

    Well, to be fair, Tim was a terrorist enraged by government ineptitude and its increasingly overbearing manner. The KKK meanwhile just didn't like blacks, and did nasty things to them. They're not really comparable to some members of a religion who want to change the Western culture into which they have imported themselves, and bring us to the enlightened world-view and societal model which we see in the Muslim world and of which we are all of course completely jealous (women particularly). Minority perhaps, but fairly vocal as collapsing buildings and Sharia law in England might let you know.
    RichieC wrote: »
    Truly the land of the free. :pac:

    I think their actions point out that there is indeed freedom, in so far as how you spend your money at least.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    Well, to be fair, Tim was a terrorist enraged by government ineptitude and its increasingly overbearing manner. The KKK meanwhile just didn't like blacks, and did nasty things to them. They're not really comparable to some members of a religion who want to change the Western culture into which they have imported themselves, and bring us to the enlightened world-view and societal model which we see in the Muslim world and of which we are all of course completely jealous (women particularly). Minority perhaps, but fairly vocal as collapsing buildings and Sharia law in England might let you know..

    you're falling into the same trap and will get the same kinda glib response the crap in the OP got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Fucking appalling.

    Can you imagine the fucking stink that would be kicked up if this was a Jewish or Black or Christian family?

    that comment covers all my family Jewish , Black and Christian, even got some Cavan people too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    These guys are fascists pure and simple... it is crazy to think that after decades of suffering to gain the civil rights movement, that discrimination is still prevalent, same thinking, different people. http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/all-american-muslim

    The businesses who bowed to pressure as a result of the campaign by Florida Family
    http://floridafamily.org/full_article.php?article_no=108 by pulling their advertisements are cowardly and disgusting, their way of thinking has no place in a modern progressive world. **** them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Professor Knowall


    you cant show normal muslims, the poor americans* will get confused.


    *not all americans theres just some that shouldnt be allowed near scissors.

    Isn't that an oxymoron?:eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    They claim Volkswagen have cancelled too /facepalm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    mattjack wrote: »
    that comment covers all my family Jewish , Black and Christian, even got some Cavan people too

    I don't condone Cavan people inter-breeding with normal people. They're just watering down good genes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Key1


    Here we go again, RichieC and his anti-American agenda.... he always seems to slap America regardless of the topic.... can I ask Richie, what makes you so anti-American? And why feel the need to put it into peoples faces on boards constantly? It's getting bloody annoying tbh, I think you have issues


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    RichieC wrote: »
    They claim Volkswagen have cancelled too /facepalm



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Key1 wrote: »
    Here we go again, RichieC and his anti-American agenda.... he always seems to slap America regardless of the topic.... can I ask Richie, what makes you so anti-American? And why feel the need to put it into peoples faces on boards constantly? It's getting bloody annoying tbh, I think you have issues

    I think a sign up to attack you means you won the internet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    I don't condone Cavan people inter-breeding with normal people. They're just watering down good genes.

    Sir, I admire your integ answer , my Black Jewish herei family are happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    also Linden Village says no more typing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Perscution for some, miniature American flags for others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    What's the world coming to?

    Can't we just hate everyone equally?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    Even though Megaman strictly has nothing to do with the thread, I think he can impart his awesomeness, Am i right?
    http://www.dan-dare.org/Dan%20Megaman/MegamanBig.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    What would Jesus do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Key1


    RichieC wrote: »
    I think a sign up to attack you means you won the internet

    But you are just annoying people with your constant rhetoric and talking through your arse about the States, do you not see this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    I could not enclose a graphical image of his awesomeness and that chaffes my nipples


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    What would Jesus do?

    He'd be very cross.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    He'd be very cross.
    Hmmm...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Key1 wrote: »
    But you are just annoying people with your constant rhetoric and talking through your arse about the States, do you not see this?

    Your second post and you're accusation rumbles that you are a re-reg.

    Oh lordy..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Key1 wrote: »
    But you are just annoying people with your constant rhetoric and talking through your arse about the States, do you not see this?

    It is clearly annoying you. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    RichieC wrote: »
    It is clearly annoying you. :P

    Not annoying me anyways . I love laughing at other people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    RichieC wrote: »
    Truly the land of the free. :pac:

    I don't get this comment. What would you have happen?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    US of A " Syria has beaten and abused its own people and must be punished". Don't mention how the good old US of A battered its own "Occupy whatever" protesters off the streets though. "Land of the free"?? GTFO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭lcrcboy


    RichieC wrote: »
    Companies like Dell, Walmart, Lowes and Campbells have pulled their advertising from a TLC show called 'All American Muslims' - the show portrays a normal American family who are muslim..

    the reasons are just great, wait for this ****;



    That's right, the same company pulled ads from seventh heaven years back for daring to show a normal Christian family without highlighting the dangers of things like the KKK or the Timothy Mc Veighs... oh wait.. no they didnt.

    Truly the land of the free. :pac:

    Im getting sick of these threads to, I mean there seems to be one of these stupid anti-american threads nearly every second day now. Cant you just get over it and leave it be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    FTGFOP wrote: »
    I don't get this comment. What would you have happen?

    It's a country where the religious fringes (mostly Christian supremacists) have an awful lot of power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I don't actually agree with the title, but the topic of the thread is valid and worthy of discussion, if you don't like it you can scroll on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭lcrcboy


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    US of A " Syria has beaten and abused its own people and must be punished". Don't mention how the good old US of A battered its own "Occupy whatever" protesters off the streets though. "Land of the free"?? GTFO.

    the USA and its bad treatment of occupy wall street protesters does not come anywhere near the level of violence the Syrian government has committed against its people, nearly 4000 people so far have died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    What would Jesus do?
    http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/robmilleniumfix1.png

    There's a cyanide and happiness strip for every occassion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Dunno where I stand on this one. The concept sounds laudable enough in theory but in practice probably amounts to a muslim version of the cosby show <shudder>
    JohnathanM wrote: »
    Sharia law in England .

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Why the rolling eyes? If you doubt it's happening, well...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jul/05/sharia-law-religious-courts

    You might also read the attached report, which should make clear to you its operation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    RichieC wrote: »
    It's a country where the religious fringes (mostly Christian supremacists) have an awful lot of power.

    You missed my question, what would you have done about it?

    You sound like you're gloating with that comment in the OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    JohnathanM wrote: »
    Why the rolling eyes? If you doubt it's happening, well...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/jul/05/sharia-law-religious-courts

    You might also read the attached report, which should make clear to you its operation.

    afaik the so - called shariah courts in the UK are private and for civil matters, if I'm not mistaken the Jewish people living in England have had a pretty similar setup (beth din) for a long time.

    It is illegal for one of these courts to apply a punishment outside of the greater law of the UK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    lcrcboy wrote: »
    the USA and its bad treatment of occupy wall street protesters does not come anywhere near the level of violence the Syrian government has committed against its people, nearly 4000 people so far have died.

    You're right - we need to put this incident in context.

    1947-49 - U.S. helps command extreme-right Greece party in Civil War.
    Death toll: about 70,000 contributed by US-backed forces

    1948-54 - CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion in Philippines.
    Death toll: about 11,000

    1950 - Independence movement crushed in Ponce, Puerto Rico
    Death toll: conservative historians estimated about 8,000 peasants

    1950-53 - Korean War
    Death toll: about 1,776,000

    1952 - CIA overthrows Democracy in Iran, installs Shah
    Death toll: about 20,000

    1954 - CIA directs invasion of Guatemala after new Democracy there nationalized U.S.-occupied lands
    Death toll: about 140,000 missing and dead

    1958 - In Lebanon, marine occupation against rebels
    Death toll: about 2,000

    1960-75+ - Vietnam War including Cambodia and Laos
    Death toll: about 4,502,000 including civilians and resulting famines (conservative estimates)

    1961 - Cuba's Bay of Pigs Invasion fails
    Death toll: about 4,000

    1963 - In Iraq, CIA organizes coup against President and agrees to back formerly exiled Saddam
    Death toll: about 7,000 including civilians

    1964 - In Panama, troops kill protesters against US-owned canal
    Death toll: about 1,000

    1965 - CIA assists Indonesian coup
    Death toll: about 900,000

    1966 - Troops and bombers threaten pro-communist parties in Dominican Republic
    Death toll: about 3,000

    1966-96 - Green berets in Guatemala against rebels, US backs pro-American forces in country until 1996
    Death toll: about 200,000

    1970 - Directs marine invasion of Oman
    Death toll: about 2,000

    1973 - CIA directs coup to oust elected Marxist president in Chile
    Death toll: 30,000... 3,000 later disappeared under US-installed dictator

    1976-92 - CIA assists South-African rebels in Angola
    Death toll: median estimate at 550,000

    1981-90 - CIA directs Contra invasions in Nicaragua
    Death toll: median estimate at 30,000

    1982-84 - Marines expel Lebanese rebels, aided by Israel
    Death toll: 40,000

    1987-88 - US intervenes for Iraq against Iran
    Death toll: about 150,000 during time-frame, 100,000 during Desert Storm, 350,000 from resulting famine

    1989 - US invades to oust CIA-installed Panamanian government gone rouge
    Death toll: 2,000

    1992-94 - US-led occupation of Somalia during civil war
    Death toll: 50,000 in combat, 300,000 by starvation

    2001+ - US Occupies Afghanistan
    Death toll: 120,000 including civilians and combatants and resulting Opium Wars

    2003+ - Iraqi War
    Death toll: 665,000 also by starvation, displacement


    TOTAL: 10,431,000

    But they were 'bad guys' so it's okay.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    America just doesn't want much to do with Muslims.. that's their business though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭mickrock


    What do you call a Muslim who flies a plane?

    A pilot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    woodoo wrote: »
    America just doesn't want much to do with Muslims.. that's their business though.
    Then maybe they should get rid of the following clause from their constitution:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    I don't see why you care so much about this Muslim family Richie. They are "All American" after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    FTGFOP wrote: »
    You missed my question, what would you have done about it?

    You sound like you're gloating with that comment in the OP.

    Done about what? the contents of the OP? pointed and laughed, I suppose..

    laugh or cry the choice is yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    RichieC wrote: »
    afaik the so - called shariah courts in the UK are private and for civil matters, if I'm not mistaken the Jewish people living in England have had a pretty similar setup (beth din) for a long time.

    It is illegal for one of these courts to apply a punishment outside of the greater law of the UK.

    Correct, but there have been instances in the past of judgment in criminal cases - such as domestic violence - and the UK government had to step in to make clear that these "external courts" have no competence here. Jewish courts are outside of scope of this discussion, but in reality any arbitration can be binding outside of a "real" court when both parties freely agree. In my opinion though, no court based on religion should be allowed to exist in a modern state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    woodoo wrote: »
    America just doesn't want much to do with Muslims.. that's their business though.

    With America being the global Mafia policeman it's kinda everyone's business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    RichieC wrote: »
    afaik the so - called shariah courts in the UK are private and for civil matters, if I'm not mistaken the Jewish people living in England have had a pretty similar setup (beth din) for a long time.

    It is illegal for one of these courts to apply a punishment outside of the greater law of the UK.

    Indeed the only people compelled to abide by the decisions of these private arbitration tribunals are those willing to submit to their juristiction in the first place.

    Anyway this thread is supposed to be about the United States.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    Damn I loved seventh heaven


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 410 ✭✭JohnathanM


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Indeed the only people compelled to abide by the decisions of these private arbitration tribunals are those willing to submit to their juristiction in the first place.

    This assumes that both parties in the dispute are equal, and that's when reality gets in the way of theory. The word of a woman is after all worth only half that of a man's.


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