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Nokia Lumia 800

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    #812
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    TBi wrote: »
    Everyone has issues with phones, could be that someone gets a bad phone and hates that phone. Although everyone has their own likes and dislikes so while someone might not like how a phone OS works, other people might.

    I've used WP7 for a year now, I bought the phone (HTC Trophy) because i got a great deal on amazon. Never thought i'd use it more than a week but a year later it's still my main phone. It does some things so well, and so much better than iOS, that i'm still not sure about getting the 4S i said i'd get.

    Also i tried Android and bloody well hated it. I consider myself a 'power user' but i like my phone to just work, android didn't. iOS and WP7 do.

    I much prefer WP7 to Android and I much prefer iOS to WP7.
    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    ...and you should bare in mind that people don't usually go on the internet to praise things :) only to complain when they dislike something or its not working :)

    Responses from most people here are fine now, there was a bit of frustration in the start with the battery issue but things seems to be fine now.

    If no front facing camera and no WiFi Hotspot doesn't bother you its well worth a shot.

    As in previous page depending on your usage you can expect around 2 days from a windows phone, maybe more if your a very light user.

    Heavy user can expect a day at least. Lumia 900 is coming pretty soon, its not as stunning as the 800 in design, but it has a front facing camera and tethering and a bigger nicer screen.

    Some things can be fixed by software. Other things like the screen, camera without BSI and a soft louder speaker can't.


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    #813
    jonseyblub
    Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭jonseyblub


    As a past IOS (iphone 3gs and 4)and Android (samsung galaxy s2) I have to say the lumia is on a par with the best both of these can offer (apart from the camera in bad light). I absolutely love the interface and as a previous poster mentioned the group set up on home screen thingy:D is cool. I can honestly say too that the only app i miss that I can't get an alternative for is the journal.ie. Absolutely love the phone. Don't get me wrong the iphone is a brilliant phone but I was just sick of it. I also miss having a brilliant camera (galaxy S 2) and I never used front facing camera so don't miss that but I can see it being an issue for some. I honestly can say that at the moment I wouldn't go back.


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    #814
    Odaise Gaelach
    Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Odaise Gaelach


    boredatwork82 wrote: »
    Quick question - Is the Nokia Lumia 800 a good phone? Have a galaxy S, annoyed with android been spasticated and crap battery life - Is this phone any better?
    Thanks

    How long is a piece of string?

    If you've never used a Windows Phone before then you'll really have to try one out before you decide whether it's for you or not.

    As for the battery life issue, I work around that by carrying a fully-charged spare with me. :)


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    #815
    impr0v
    Registered Users Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    Has anyone received the firmware update on Meteor yet? The useless battery on this thing is a constant annoyance and, as far as I can find out, I can't force the update without a Windows computer.


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    #816
    boredatwork82
    Registered Users Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭boredatwork82


    ok, phone ordered. just want a windows phone. Has to be better than crappy android.


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    #817
    Queerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Queerdub


    impr0v wrote: »
    Has anyone received the firmware update on Meteor yet? The useless battery on this thing is a constant annoyance and, as far as I can find out, I can't force the update without a Windows computer.

    no, updates work from the connector for Mac too.


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    #818
    TBi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭TBi


    Queerdub wrote: »
    no, updates work from the connector for Mac too.

    He was making the point that you can't 'force' the update like you can in windows. On a Mac you have to wait for the legit version to be released, windows has tools to update to a new version even if your carrier hasn't released it yet.


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    #819
    impr0v
    Registered Users Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    TBi wrote: »
    He was making the point that you can't 'force' the update like you can in windows. On a Mac you have to wait for the legit version to be released, windows has tools to update to a new version even if your carrier hasn't released it yet.

    Indeed I was. Someone posted here a while ago asking whether one should think twice about getting this phone if one has a Mac. In short, one should.


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    #820
    TBi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭TBi


    impr0v wrote: »
    Indeed I was. Someone posted here a while ago asking whether one should think twice about getting this phone if one has a Mac. In short, one should.

    You can install windows on your mac, bit overkill but it will work. Or find a friend with a PC, you just need zune and the cabsender program installed to update the phone.

    I'm sure there are many WP7 enthusiasts here who you could ask to upgrade your phone for you, although i understand it's a bit annoying.


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    #821
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    impr0v wrote: »
    Indeed I was. Someone posted here a while ago asking whether one should think twice about getting this phone if one has a Mac. In short, one should.

    Not really, all the necessary functions are available with the Mac connector for the average Joe.

    Most advanced folks would already have Windows running on the side on their Mac :)


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    #822
    Ronan H
    Registered Users Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Ronan H


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Not really, all the necessary functions are available with the Mac connector for the average Joe.

    Most advanced folks would already have Windows running on the side on their Mac :)

    Speaking of a bit on the side. I am typing this from Windows 8 Release Preview, running a dual boot situation with Windows 7. I wonder how it will play with Zune. I shall report back...


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    #823
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    Ronan H wrote: »
    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Not really, all the necessary functions are available with the Mac connector for the average Joe.

    Most advanced folks would already have Windows running on the side on their Mac :)

    Speaking of a bit on the side. I am typing this from Windows 8 Release Preview, running a dual boot situation with Windows 7. I wonder how it will play with Zune. I shall report back...

    Zune works fine and worked fine since the first release of windows 8


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    #824
    impr0v
    Registered Users Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭impr0v


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Not really, all the necessary functions are available with the Mac connector for the average Joe.

    Most advanced folks would already have Windows running on the side on their Mac :)

    Well I guess that puts me somewhere in between average and advanced!

    There is obviously some justification for saying that my problem is with Meteor, who can't be bothered or just aren't organised enough to push the firmware update, but in fact the problem is ultimately a Nokia one; it released a phone with AWFUL battery management (or perhaps just an awful battery). Caught between a useless network provider and a troubled phone maker, the option to force an update is something that the average Joe would, I imagine, like to have regardless of what computer hardware he has.

    Anyway, the Mac connector software is pretty rudimentary. I have never used Zune or seen it in use, but I imagine it must be better than the clunky interface that the Mac connector provides. One is left with the sense of only being partially connected to the phone. Though there are lots of things that I like about the Lumia, that is one of the things that makes me regret not getting a boring and ubiquitous iPhone.


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    #825
    Queerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Queerdub


    impr0v wrote: »
    Well I guess that puts me somewhere in between average and advanced!

    There is obviously some justification for saying that my problem is with Meteor, who can't be bothered or just aren't organised enough to push the firmware update, but in fact the problem is ultimately a Nokia one; it released a phone with AWFUL battery management (or perhaps just an awful battery). Caught between a useless network provider and a troubled phone maker, the option to force an update is something that the average Joe would, I imagine, like to have regardless of what computer hardware he has.

    Anyway, the Mac connector software is pretty rudimentary. I have never used Zune or seen it in use, but I imagine it must be better than the clunky interface that the Mac connector provides. One is left with the sense of only being partially connected to the phone. Though there are lots of things that I like about the Lumia, that is one of the things that makes me regret not getting a boring and ubiquitous iPhone.

    I think you're right. Updates should be delivered directly, without having to be approved by the carrier. Especially for something to rectify battery life. I don't know why Nokia can't bypass the carriers on this, but I'm more inclined to blame the respective carriers who claim they need to test the software with their networks. Apple is a bit of an arrogant company who can dictate to the carriers and bypass them for updates so I wouldn't blame Nokia for this. Nokia are doing their best to ensure customer satisfaction given the constraints that they face.


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    #826
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    Lumia 610 is available at car phone warehouse. Guess the price ? 219 euro O.o

    Extremely over priced when put beside the Xperia U


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    #827
    Queerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Queerdub


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Lumia 610 is available at car phone warehouse. Guess the price ? 219 euro O.o

    Extremely over priced when put beside the Xperia U

    not exactly given all the Nokia services that come free...


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    #828
    DjFlin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭DjFlin


    Queerdub wrote: »
    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Lumia 610 is available at car phone warehouse. Guess the price ? 219 euro O.o

    Extremely over priced when put beside the Xperia U

    not exactly given all the Nokia services that come free...

    Still not really worth it. Especially considering that it cant run certain apps (Skype being a big one).

    Didnt Nokia say that the RRP of the Lumia 710 was €250? And Carphone are trying to sell the 610 for €219? Madness!


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    #829
    Cool Story Bro
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭Cool Story Bro


    Design is nice. However the app store isn't as developed as Apples or Androids. Microsoft never make the best operating systems IMO but Windows Phone seems good.


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    #830
    Ronan H
    Registered Users Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Ronan H


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Zune works fine and worked fine since the first release of windows 8

    It does indeed, proper order really. It appears that Zune is on the way out anyway, lots of reports of it being executed by Microsoft in the next while...

    Can't say I'm disappointed TBH. I'm not a fan of it.

    Anyone have any ideas on whether the memory in the Lumia 800 will ever be accessible (properly, not via a homebrew'd hack) as mass storage? And any idea why it isn't? Is it something to do with the way the phone is designed or did I imagine reading something like that somewhere. That is one feature I miss on the phone, well, it's not really a feature, more of an aspect of the phone. Pity really, it's so handy.


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    #831
    mcpaddington
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭mcpaddington


    DjFlin wrote: »
    Still not really worth it. Especially considering that it cant run certain apps (Skype being a big one).

    Didnt Nokia say that the RRP of the Lumia 710 was €250? And Carphone are trying to sell the 610 for €219? Madness!

    You can buy an unlocked Lumia 710 in the north for £99.


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    #832
    Kenny Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Kenny Powers


    mcpaddington wrote: »
    DjFlin wrote: »
    Still not really worth it. Especially considering that it cant run certain apps (Skype being a big one).

    Didnt Nokia say that the RRP of the Lumia 710 was €250? And Carphone are trying to sell the 610 for €219? Madness!

    You can buy an unlocked Lumia 710 in the north for £99.

    Where? Link? Thanks


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    #833
    Neffa2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Neffa2


    I don't know about the unlocked bit, but if you look at the UK Carphone Warehouse Site - it's on all the major networks there on pre-pay at either 99 or 109 Stg.

    http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/NOKIA_LUMIA_710/PPAY/NEW?network=


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    #834
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    Neffa2 wrote: »
    I don't know about the unlocked bit, but if you look at the UK Carphone Warehouse Site - it's on all the major networks there on pre-pay at either 99 or 109 Stg.

    http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/NOKIA_LUMIA_710/PPAY/NEW?network=

    Would be nice if they brought it out at that price here. Would be a steal at that price.


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    #835
    mcpaddington
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭mcpaddington


    Neffa2 wrote: »
    I don't know about the unlocked bit, but if you look at the UK Carphone Warehouse Site - it's on all the major networks there on pre-pay at either 99 or 109 Stg.

    http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/NOKIA_LUMIA_710/PPAY/NEW?network=

    Yea that's it. All CPW phones are unlocked. I'm on €10 a month for unlimited calls and texts with 48.

    Edit: Oh and you can buy it as an upgrade for £89.


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    #836
    evolutionqy7
    Registered Users Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭evolutionqy7


    mcpaddington wrote: »
    Yea that's it. All CPW phones are unlocked. I'm on €10 a month for unlimited calls and texts with 48.

    Edit: Oh and you can buy it as an upgrade for £89.

    Not all phones are unlocked. Its usually only the initial batch that are unlocked.


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    #837
    jimmynokia
    Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    mcpaddington wrote: »
    Yea that's it. All CPW phones are unlocked. I'm on €10 a month for unlimited calls and texts with 48.

    Edit: Oh and you can buy it as an upgrade for £89.

    Not all phones are unlocked. Its usually only the initial batch that are unlocked.

    Truth of the matter is we are fleeced here on phones only discussing about the 610 last night with a friend it's 249 on meteor I've addressed this with them it's too expensive same applies to the 710.
    the first batch of new phones will be unlocked in the cpw and some networks


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    #838
    mcpaddington
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭mcpaddington


    evolutionqy7 wrote: »
    Not all phones are unlocked. Its usually only the initial batch that are unlocked.

    Oh and you get £20 to spend on apps and a 6 month free zune pass and £99 free earphones. Not to mention nokia maps which is a free offline gps system.


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    #839
    ballyrhy86
    Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭ballyrhy86


    Does anybody know where to get a Lumia 800 unlocked? I've tried a couple of places in town but they said they can't unlock it yet. I know someone mentioned GSM Solutions earlier in this thread, but they were one of the shops that I visited. I did get a quote of 60 euro in one shop but that seemed a bit pricey!


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    #840
    TBi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭TBi


    ballyrhy86 wrote: »
    Does anybody know where to get a Lumia 800 unlocked? I've tried a couple of places in town but they said they can't unlock it yet. I know someone mentioned GSM Solutions earlier in this thread, but they were one of the shops that I visited. I did get a quote of 60 euro in one shop but that seemed a bit pricey!

    Ask the network you bought it from to unlock it.


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    #841
    ballyrhy86
    Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭ballyrhy86


    TBi wrote: »
    Ask the network you bought it from to unlock it.

    I didn't buy it off Vodafone, I bought it 2nd hand, does this make any odds?


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