Potential SHTF scenarios & tinfoil hat thread (Please read post 1)

johngalway

Doc Ruby wrote: »

I wish the media wouldn't try to blow up nonevents like this into Hollywood blockbuster style titles.

Don't wish too hard, you might end up like this fella.

Doc Ruby

johngalway wrote: »

Don't wish too hard, you might end up like this fella.

Indeed, there's nothing to be done while there's profit in panic.

baords dyslexic

johngalway wrote: »

Don't wish too hard, you might end up like this fella.

But may be if that was Nuclear Duck he had it would work

Tabnabs

In Greece we have the closest thing to a SHTF situation in Europe, so there are many valuable lessons to be learned from their predicament.

A good news story is that the population are getting smart and cutting out the middlemen and going directly to farmers to buy produce from them (do you know the local farmers in your area and what they produce?)

http://observers.france24.com/content/20120307-potato-revolution-greeks-start-buying-potatoes-straight-farmers-supermarkets-produce-katerini-thessaloniki

But the bad news -

The incidence of HIV/Aids among intravenous drug users in central Athens soared by 1,250% in the first 10 months of 2011 compared with the same period the previous year.

Not a good situation for the health and/or safety of the wider urban population.

And

There has also been a sharp increase in cases of tuberculosis in the immigrant population, cases of Nile fever – leading to 35 deaths in 2010 – and the reappearance of endemic malaria in several parts of Greece.

All from this article - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2012/mar/15/greece-breadline-hiv-malaria

Worth remembering when selecting gear for your FAK and BOB or bug in gear.

baords dyslexic

Tabnabs wrote: »

– and the reappearance of endemic malaria in several parts of Greece.

Worth remembering when selecting gear for your FAK and BOB or bug in gear.

So you mean I've got to find room for the Tonic Water as well as the Gin on my BOB

Grizzly 45

Tabnabs wrote: »

In Greece we have the closest thing to a SHTF situation in Europe, so there are many valuable lessons to be learned from their predicament.

A good news story is that the population are getting smart and cutting out the middlemen and going directly to farmers to buy produce from them (do you know the local farmers in your area and what they produce?)

Yeah..Cows!!!And occasionally milk.:pIts a good idea though,but unless we were actually growing somthing on a national basis like spuds.It wont happen,as our veg industry is virtually dominated by Europe and specifically Holland.
AND whats the betting that if you did get a market like that open the vested intrests of Govt and big supermarket chains would be immediately calling for the closure of theses unregulated markets on "consumer health and safty issues"??:rolleyes::( [IOW consume our cruddy overpriced rotten in 3days,chemically full veggies and fruit from the EU and you dont get any smart ideas you peasents!!!]

But the bad news - Not a good situation for the health and/or safety of the wider urban population.

Why so??Unless you are a junkie sharing needles ,or a very promiscious Gay /Hetro?? Athens always had a major heroin drug problem,and expect to see more Heroin related crime in Ireland,as it is a drug of choice in a depression.Cheap & nasty ****e!

All from this article - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2012/mar/15/greece-breadline-hiv-malaria

Worth remembering when selecting gear for your FAK and BOB or bug in gear.

Be more worried about TB making a comback here,as it becomes more drug resistant and our health system starts to collapse.

baords dyslexic

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Be more worried about TB making a comback here,as it becomes more drug resistant and our health system starts to collapse.

I know someone who had drug resistant TB in the UK about 20 years ago. Not the sort of background you'd expect, he was a child from a wealthy family and attending a top UK boarding school at the time. Recovery took over 6 months and still needed follow up surgery. Without major medical intervention he'd be dead.

Doc Ruby

baords dyslexic wrote: »

I know someone who had drug resistant TB in the UK about 20 years ago. Not the sort of background you'd expect, he was a child from a wealthy family and attending a top UK boarding school at the time. Recovery took over 6 months and still needed follow up surgery. Without major medical intervention he'd be dead.

The totally drug resistant TB rearing its head in numerous countries sounds like a great laugh so.

_AVALANCHE_

Lads, ye are all so pessimistic. It'll be grand.

Tabnabs

Blind faith - because thinking is hard...

_AVALANCHE_

Tabnabs wrote: »

Blind faith - because thinking is hard...

Meant as abit of Fri night humour....received as....:rolleyes:

Proper preping and planning is painfully expensive.

One is as well/better off having a quick way off doing themselves in than live on this planet if something really did happen.

Grizzly 45

What??Chicken out and miss all the fun!!Not likely!!;):D

Grizzly 45

baords dyslexic wrote: »

I know someone who had drug resistant TB in the UK about 20 years ago. Not the sort of background you'd expect, he was a child from a wealthy family and attending a top UK boarding school at the time. Recovery took over 6 months and still needed follow up surgery. Without major medical intervention he'd be dead.

Mate of mine had a dose of normal TB when he was a kid in the 1960sIreland .When I was living in San Diego he was my neighbour/boss at work. He got a suspected re occurance of it in 1993 ..[Actually around the time of Waco,and it lasted as long!].The San Diego health dept went absolutely bonkers about it!!He was quartined in his apartment with public health notices afixed to the door.No entry unless wearing a mask.At work they went and took the entire air conditioning unit apart and fumigated it!! Everyone associated with him were questioned and almost quarintined had we any coughs ,etc.
They were amazed at our Irish attitude of "Its only suspected TB. Whats the panic?" As we still somwhat I guess accepet that it still can or does occasionally occur here,and we have a kind of national inbuilt resistance to it.
The Americans OTOH dont have this,and were going into the first stages of Contaigon or Outbreak mode...:eek: [No the National Gaurd wasnt out in their MOPP suits with slung M16s...Pity:eek::D]
Over reaction maybe,but if it was genuine a TB virus going thru a a pouplation that has no resistance or knowledge of it,and are so over dosed on antibiotics for every little sniffle and cough..:eek:
Reaction over here to somthing like an outbreak of TB in Ireland again would be intresting to see!

_AVALANCHE_

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

What??Chicken out and miss all the fun!!Not likely!!;):D

The boredom would be enough to do me in. And the bad food after a few months.

Biggest threat would be people turning on themselves. Na, not for me.

Khannie

_AVALANCHE_ wrote: »

Lads, ye are all so pessimistic. It'll be grand.

baords dyslexic

Has anyone else noticed that we don't have a tag line for the forum

Check the Survivalism & Self Sufficiency here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2 to see what I mean.

Anyone else think "KEEP GOING sure IT'S GRAND" would fit, then we'd be the only forum with its own motto?

Doc Ruby

baords dyslexic wrote: »

Has anyone else noticed that we don't have a tag line for the forum

Check the Survivalism & Self Sufficiency here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2 to see what I mean.

Anyone else think "KEEP GOING sure IT'S GRAND" would fit, then we'd be the only forum with its own motto?

Love it.

johngalway

_AVALANCHE_ wrote: »

And the bad food after a few months.

See if you were prepared, that wouldn't happen.

Grizzly 45

Or "Ah shure,nothing will happen!"??:p

BTW The Harp is facing the wrong way in the pic!! Says it all.We cant even get our national emblem on right!!:D

The boredom would be enough to do me in. And the bad food after a few months.
Biggest threat would be people turning on themselves. Na, not for me

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You must be leading a fierce exiteing life as it is then!!:p:p
Boredom?How could you get bored having to survive,fighting off all comers,rebuilding society and being able to play with potentially deadly things like guns and explosives to your hearts content without any busybody saying you cant?:cool::D

Bad food....NONSENSE!!Only our unwillingness to eat it!!
Trouble is;we Irish havent been REALLY hungry since "Black 47".
We turn up our noses at perfectly acceptable grub that our EU and middle Eastern and Chinese friends fall over themselves with delight.

My mother grew up in the 3rd Reich in Berlin,and the austere post war years of Germany.[She didnt see or know what an orange was until she was 10 in 1948.] And still recounts stories of our family scouring American base trash dumps with countless other fammlies for leftovers in C ration cans.
I lived quite happily with a Mexican office cleaning crew in San Diego in my job ,every Friday evening by divvying up all the instant TV dinners the Americans had brought into work and had never eaten and chucked into the skips as the sell by date was literally a DAY over!! And food was so cheap to them it wasnt worth taking home :rolleyes::rolleyes:
My food bill was literally 15USD per month the staples like bread,milk,etc.Everything else bar meat,I dumpster dived.

Ya know ..The ironic thing is you will proably survive,as it is the "I'll go out into the streets and die with the rest if a nuke bomb/whatever goes off" mentality will proably be in the part of the world where the missles/plauge/etc will miss completely!:D:D

_AVALANCHE_

johngalway wrote: »

See if you were prepared, that wouldn't happen.

Has their been a food thread on how to survive after....say 4 months?

Khannie

baords dyslexic wrote: »

Has anyone else noticed that we don't have a tag line for the forum

Check the Survivalism & Self Sufficiency here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=2 to see what I mean.

Anyone else think "KEEP GOING sure IT'S GRAND" would fit, then we'd be the only forum with its own motto?

Done and done.

Mods: If you don't like it, just shout and I'll change it.

_AVALANCHE_

kildare.17hmr

I think your confusing this forum with another one Avalanche

kildare.17hmr

_AVALANCHE_ wrote: »

Has their been a food thread on how to survive after....say 4 months?

there has, plenty of talk about it and lists and even prices for up to a years supply

_AVALANCHE_

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

I think your confusing this forum with another one Avalanche

Don't mind me, just trying to brighten the place up abit.:p

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

there has, plenty of talk about it and lists and even prices for up to a years supply

Their's only 8 pages (main page)....I'll have a look back.

kildare.17hmr

This is a relitively new forum but a hell of alot has been covered in its short life so far!

Grizzly 45

Somhow I doubt this expressed sentiment!:rolleyes::p

_AVALANCHE_ wrote: »

Syllabus

can we not just all get along?

johngalway

_AVALANCHE_ wrote: »

Has their been a food thread on how to survive after....say 4 months?

One word for you : Mormons.

ShadowFox

Just seen that forecourts are closing amid panic buying in the UK
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/forecourts-closed-amid-fuel-panic-in-uk-545406.html