Cheltenham Ante Post Pick

ste2010 · 07-02-2012 9:19am

hucklebuck wrote: »

I would rather Gavins bet than the one I did in December, like a greedy **** I threw in Hidden Cyclone.

Just in case you didn't lose enough. That grans crus double could be on again, he's running this weekend..just in case your looking at losing a few more bob antepost..

Gavin "shels" · 07-02-2012 3:43pm

RichieLawlor wrote: »

This has gone right over my head, do explain?

premierstone · 07-02-2012 4:32pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

This has gone right over my head, do explain?

Stable door is open, horse has bolted etc etc

hucklebuck · 07-02-2012 10:59pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

This has gone right over my head, do explain?

You must be tiny, smaller than a half door

ste2010 · 07-02-2012 11:51pm

Captain Conan 3-1 f for the deloitte...but 33-1 in the supreme?????

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 9:06am

I've been told Minsk is a definite for the triumph.

premierstone · 08-02-2012 11:46am

ste2010 wrote: »

I've been told Minsk is a definite for the triumph.

Definite would seem a bit OTT, he has never jumped a hurdle in public never mind in the heat of battle in a Triumph, he's flat rating would suggest though that if he takes to it he will be right there.

Any plans for his debut, they will hardly go to Chelt unraced??

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 12:21pm

premierstone wrote: »

ste2010 wrote: »

I've been told Minsk is a definite for the triumph.

Definite would seem a bit OTT, he has never jumped a hurdle in public never mind in the heat of battle in a Triumph, he's flat rating would suggest though that if he takes to it he will be right there.

Any plans for his debut, they will hardly go to Chelt unraced??

Definite is OTT if we factor in sickness or situation change etc.
I asked the same question as you premierstone and was also as surprised..
My mate has connections in the stable. As far as he is concerned the 1st hurdle Minsk will jump will be in the triumph.
If I have left another message to confirm that 100%

Slattsy · 08-02-2012 12:33pm

ste2010 wrote: »

premierstone wrote: »

ste2010 wrote: »

I've been told Minsk is a definite for the triumph.

Definite would seem a bit OTT, he has never jumped a hurdle in public never mind in the heat of battle in a Triumph, he's flat rating would suggest though that if he takes to it he will be right there.

Any plans for his debut, they will hardly go to Chelt unraced??

Definite is OTT if we factor in sickness or situation change etc.
I asked the same question as you premierstone and was also as surprised..
My mate has connections in the stable. As far as he is concerned the 1st hurdle Minsk will jump will be in the triumph.
If I have left another message to confirm that 100%

And can your mates connections guarantee this horse will win ???

knockostia · 08-02-2012 1:47pm

I think Darroun seems like good value @ 20-1 with PP.backed him myself @100-1 on betfair a few weeks ago. only €5

Huntey · 08-02-2012 3:00pm

ste2010 wrote: »

I've been told Minsk is a definite for the triumph.

ste2010 wrote: »

Definite is OTT if we factor in sickness or situation change etc.
I asked the same question as you premierstone and was also as surprised..
My mate has connections in the stable. As far as he is concerned the 1st hurdle Minsk will jump will be in the triumph.
If I have left another message to confirm that 100%

Some of the "inside info" that gets spouted around this place is ridiculous.

Your mate either hasn't a clue or is lying to you.

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 3:30pm

Huntey wrote: »

ste2010 wrote: »

I've been told Minsk is a definite for the triumph.

ste2010 wrote: »

Definite is OTT if we factor in sickness or situation change etc.
I asked the same question as you premierstone and was also as surprised..
My mate has connections in the stable. As far as he is concerned the 1st hurdle Minsk will jump will be in the triumph.
If I have left another message to confirm that 100%

Some of the "inside info" that gets spouted around this place is ridiculous.

Your mate either hasn't a clue or is lying to you.

Have you got information that would suggest otherwise?

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 3:56pm

Slattsy wrote: »

ste2010 wrote: »

premierstone wrote: »

ste2010 wrote: »

I've been told Minsk is a definite for the triumph.

Definite would seem a bit OTT, he has never jumped a hurdle in public never mind in the heat of battle in a Triumph, he's flat rating would suggest though that if he takes to it he will be right there.

Any plans for his debut, they will hardly go to Chelt unraced??

Definite is OTT if we factor in sickness or situation change etc.
I asked the same question as you premierstone and was also as surprised..
My mate has connections in the stable. As far as he is concerned the 1st hurdle Minsk will jump will be in the triumph.
If I have left another message to confirm that 100%

And can your mates connections guarantee this horse will win ???

Yep they have arranged a few snipers on the hill just in case

Huntey · 08-02-2012 3:58pm

ste2010 wrote: »

Have you got information that would suggest otherwise?

I do not need or want to act like a big man spouting information around that seems so frequent here.

However, for the benefit of those that may take account of what you have said I just want to ensure that they realise that what you have posted about Minsk is misleading.

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 4:19pm

Huntey wrote: »

ste2010 wrote: »

Have you got information that would suggest otherwise?

I do not need or want to act like a big man spouting information around that seems so frequent here.

However, for the benefit of those that may take account of what you have said I just want to ensure that they realise that what you have posted about Minsk is misleading.

Ok so are you saying you have more information then, please share because what your doing is saying my statement is misleading?
If it's misleading then I have a misleading source.
I confirmed last night when I spoke to my source and I am waiting for 100% confirmation by asking the same questions again today you can see this on my post to premierstone..my doubts are and were as big as yours now. .if you don't know more info And you knew anything about my source you might think a little differently..

I'm not sure what your suggesting about being a big man. I would never associate sharing information on boards.ie With becoming a bigman trying to understand why you find this association.

I am a bigman without boards and horse racing. If you go to the ladies pleasure forum you will see this :-)

Let me confirm with my source again an if I'm wrong I'll be sure to share any other info privately..a bit of advice don't be so negative unless you have more information than I have, the info may prove useful someday. If you shared information I would take it at face..

Huntey · 08-02-2012 4:37pm

I am not being negative, I just felt that it would be a bastard thing to do if I didn't let people, and yourself, know that your information about the horses prospects and preparation is misleading.

I have no interest delving further into the matter of knowing who or how, and it is no skin off my back should you or others not believe what I am saying.

premierstone · 08-02-2012 4:51pm

Huntey wrote: »

I am not being negative, I just felt that it would be a bastard thing to do if I didn't let people, and yourself, know that your information about the horses prospects and preparation is misleading.

I have no interest delving further into the matter of knowing who or how, and it is no skin off my back should you or others not believe what I am saying.

But you are not actually saying anything, if you know something that contradicts the original post then share it with the group like a good lad

Colonel Sanders · 08-02-2012 4:54pm

I've read a few interviews/quotes from Dessie Hughes saying the Triumph was the plan but if time ran out they'd be happy to wait for Fairyhouse/Punchestown.

I've certainly not got any "inside info" but I'd be shocked if a horse of such potential debuted in the triumph

longshotvalue · 08-02-2012 5:05pm

the 40/1 about What a Friend in the Gold Cup looks a bit of value considering his good run last year. He has been trained this season with the Gold Cup and the National in mind according to nichols, and it wouldn't be a huge surprise if he could get place here..

Huntey · 08-02-2012 5:09pm

premierstone wrote: »

But you are not actually saying anything

I am, are you missing the various posts where I have said his post is misleading?

premierstone wrote: »

if you know something that contradicts the original post then share it with the group like a good lad

You must also have missed the part where I said I have no interest in delving further into the topic of knowing who or how.

You should know about misleading info aswell considering the garbage you posted about HF going to be ruled out for the season from a reliable source.

I'm back to the formbook anyway, ante-post bets to be placed.

premierstone · 08-02-2012 5:14pm

Huntey wrote: »

I am, are you missing the various posts where I have said his post is misleading?

You must also have missed the part where I said I have no interest in delving further into the topic of knowing who or how.

You should be the last person requesting info aswell considering the garbage you posted about HF going to be ruled out for the season from a reliable source.

I'm back to the formbook anyway, ante-posts bets to be placed.

So you think its unreasonable for people to request you to back up your assertions, public forums maybe aren't for you.

Yes my info on HF was incorrect and I hold my hand up on that all I can say is I trusted the source at the time and had no reason to doubt him, obviously I wouldnt repeat any other info I may receive from him.

But I wont go on like a martyr of some sort, ''oh your wrong cos I know something you dont, but Im not going to tell you what the something is'' LOL I thought midterm wasnt untill next week

Huntey · 08-02-2012 5:20pm

premierstone wrote: »

So you think its unreasonable for people to request you to back up your assertions, public forums maybe aren't for you.

Yes my info on HF was incorrect and I hold my hand up on that all I can say is I trusted the source at the time and had no reason to doubt him, obviously I wouldnt repeat any other info I may receive from him.

But I wont go on like a martyr of some sort, ''oh your wrong cos I know something you dont, but Im not going to tell you what the something is'' LOL I thought midterm wasnt untill next week

I never said it was unreasonable, just that I have no interest delving further into the matter.

You are totally inept of grasping anything I have said and have resulted to childish remarks to bait me into discussing the issue further. I have no interest in discussing it further, I have posted what I feel is relevant and whatever your views are on that do not bother me, so probably best to keep them to yourself.

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 5:26pm

Huntey wrote: »

I am not being negative, I just felt that it would be a bastard thing to do if I didn't let people, and yourself, know that your information about the horses prospects and preparation is misleading.

I have no interest delving further into the matter of knowing who or how, and it is no skin off my back should you or others not believe what I am saying.

So you obviously know more about Minsk but your refraining from giving the details I would assume. I will take this on board and interrogate my source violently

. For the record I don't consider a source a randomer who knocks around a bookies. My source is good and has ties and family who works in horse racing.

Either way-I'll confirm to everyone as courtesy and a lesson will be learned either way

For the moment I would take your side huntey as you wouldn't put up an argument like that if u didn't know some more recent information

premierstone · 08-02-2012 6:10pm

Just did a bit of digging myself re. Minsk and the plan is for him to debut on Feb 25 in Fiaryhouse, according to Hughes.

mr.jingle · 08-02-2012 6:13pm

Regarding Minsk

How can a horse get into a race such as the Triumph without having 1 single run over hurdles?

Surely they need to have one run to get entered into a race of that magnitude as i'm sure if he doesn't live up to expectations then there was a chance another horse had a chance of getting into the race

If he does run and wins it will be some training performance by Hughes but personally without seeing him jump a hurdle i wouldn't go near him in a race with some horses with good hurdles form

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 6:50pm

premierstone wrote: »

Just did a bit of digging myself re. Minsk and the plan is for him to debut on Feb 25 in Fiaryhouse, according to Hughes.

Cheer PS. Before I lynch my source I'll give him a chance to explain..he is reliable as they come. Whatever I get I'll share it's better to have info to prove for or against than not to have any at all IMO I will post pictures of his defacement if he is acting The clown!

Huntey · 08-02-2012 8:00pm

ste2010 wrote: »

it's better to have info to prove for or against than not to have any at all IMO

It's probably better to not mention anything unless you are 100% certain so you don't end up looking foolish IMO.

hucklebuck · 08-02-2012 8:28pm

premierstone wrote: »

Just did a bit of digging myself re. Minsk and the plan is for him to debut on Feb 25 in Fiaryhouse, according to Hughes.

The first way I want to respond to you sir is, cough.. cough... "SAMAIN"

Ahem, it was around then that Zarkandar ran his first race of the season around then in his prep for the Triumph.

I believe you Ste, I am having a few bob ew.

Huntey · 08-02-2012 8:31pm

hucklebuck wrote: »

I believe you Ste, I am having a few bob ew.

Ste's source has already proven to be misleading and you still think this "info" is credible?

By all means have your few bob e/w, but don't do it based on the above gurgle.

ste2010 · 08-02-2012 8:31pm

hucklebuck wrote: »

premierstone wrote: »

Just did a bit of digging myself re. Minsk and the plan is for him to debut on Feb 25 in Fiaryhouse, according to Hughes.

The first way I want to respond to you sir is, cough.. cough... "SAMAIN"

Ahem, it was around then that Zarkandar ran his first race of the season around then in his prep for the Triumph.

I believe you Ste, I am having a few bob ew.

Wait for the confirmation...he's calling me in 5

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