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Opinion on snow/ice this year.

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    #122
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Dudess wrote: »
    Delighted for them but it's still absolute bollocks to call it a bit of snow.

    all perspective, irish people think thats a lot of snow because we dont know any better


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    #123
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    So grid lock on a sunny day must be caused by people that are unable to drive in good weather, but try anyway.

    Your 'logic' has defeated me.


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    #124
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    all perspective, irish people think thats a lot of snow because we dont know any better

    Is that not the whole point?


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    #125
    hondasam
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    black francis wrote: »
    No.

    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=what%20is%20grit&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEkQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolverhampton.gov.uk%2Ftransport_streets%2Fmaintenance%2Fgritting%2Fwhat.htm&ei=VFqzTvzwCILH8gPPy_X5BA&usg=AFQjCNGQX2a0r5wBLtfXdUnbjiBUepT3yg


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    #126
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    black francis wrote: »
    Your 'logic' has defeated me.

    Your saying gridlock in the snow is caused by people that cant drive in snow (obviously your not one of them), but try anyway. I say its caused by the same (or close to it anyway) high volume of traffic, but now in treacherous conditions.


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    #127
    Alan b.
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Alan b.


    salt melts snow/ice
    grit provides traction.


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    #128
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    hondasam wrote: »
    Hey you talking to me? I'm not bothering with winter tyres.
    you should keep space between the cars in front of you on a fine sunny day as well and you should always concentrate when driving.

    why wouldnt you get winter tyres if you had a lot of driving in snow/ice conditions to do? as for car space, obviously you cant be bumper to bumper on a nice day but there should be a difference in how much space you leave on a nice day and a snow day, concentration is obviously a must if your behind a big lump of metal but again you should be concentrating more than normal on a snow day


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    #129
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    Is that not the whole point?

    yeah but just because we dont know any better doesnt make it true


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    #130
    Alan b.
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Alan b.


    ya dont need snow tyres,
    but they do help, and are a good investmant if this weather is to come back every winter for a few years on the trot.
    grab a set of steel wheels and put snow tyres on them and tuck the alloys away for winter.
    then swap over during the summer (or use them all year round as they are fantastic in wet/rain conditions we get here too)


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    #131
    hondasam
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    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    why wouldnt you get winter tyres if you had a lot of driving in snow/ice conditions to do? as for car space, obviously you cant be bumper to bumper on a nice day but there should be a difference in how much space you leave on a nice day and a snow day, concentration is obviously a must if your behind a big lump of metal but again you should be concentrating more than normal on a snow day

    Don't see the point, I have no problem driving in the snow but no matter how careful I am it will not stop someone else running into me.
    tbh you should be concentrating the same snow or sun and same for distance.


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    #132
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Alan b. wrote: »
    ya dont need snow tyres,
    but they do help, and are a good investmant if this weather is to come back every winter for a few years on the trot.
    grab a set of steel wheels and put snow tyres on them and tuck the alloys away for winter.
    then swap over during the summer (or use them all year round as they are fantastic in wet/rain conditions we get here too)

    if i was doing 100k a day to work id buy them, weather is unpredictable so i might need them at some point.


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    #133
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    hondasam wrote: »
    Don't see the point, I have no problem driving in the snow but no matter how careful I am it will not stop someone else running into me.
    tbh you should be concentrating the same snow or sun and same for distance.

    if i concentrated as much as i do when im driving in snow id loose the plot and start walking :D


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    #134
    Alan b.
    Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Alan b.


    i know of people that have had the same set for the last few years as they only fit them come the end of november when it snows and take em off as soon as it clears.

    if it was up to me i'd be going mil-spec.


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    #135
    hondasam
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    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    if i concentrated as much as i do when im driving in snow id loose the plot and start walking :D

    It can be nerve wrecking which is why I can't understand why ye are insisting it was just a little flurry of snow. It lasted for six weeks.
    Of course your county might not have had it as bad, Connaught had it bad.


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    #136
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    hondasam wrote: »
    It can be nerve wrecking which is why I can't understand why ye are insisting it was just a little flurry of snow. It lasted for six weeks.
    Of course your county might not have had it as bad, Connaught had it bad.

    nah kerry had it pretty bad tbh, nearly all our roads where unusable, the reason im saying it wasnt much snow is because it wasnt, it was just the lack of maintenance on the roads which made them so bad, down here anyway it did, gritting pretty much didnt happen until the end, its far too fcuking late to be debating whats snow and whats not :D feck it


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    #137
    Frank Black
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    hondasam wrote: »
    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=what%20is%20grit&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEkQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolverhampton.gov.uk%2Ftransport_streets%2Fmaintenance%2Fgritting%2Fwhat.htm&ei=VFqzTvzwCILH8gPPy_X5BA&usg=AFQjCNGQX2a0r5wBLtfXdUnbjiBUepT3yg

    I stand correctred.


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    #138
    Crazy Horse 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    recyclebin wrote: »
    What if there is no snow?? Where will i get my white powder fix from??
    Gerry Ryan's old RTE locker?


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    #139
    Reamer Fanny
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    Fbjm wrote: »
    Are you looking forward to the snow this year AH? Or are you dreading it?

    Personally I used to love it, but last year kind of ruined it for me. I live on a hill, and struggling to school every day trying not to fall was not fun. :( I'd imagine getting to college this year is going to be a lot worse; I hear maynooth completely freezes over in winter! :pac:

    So what say you AH? Will you love or hate the snow this year?

    What ever you do don't eat the yellow snow


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    #140
    AeoNGriM
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    recyclebin wrote: »
    What if there is no snow?? Where will i get my white powder fix from??

    Eamonn Dunphy?

    :pac:


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    #141
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Dudess wrote: »
    Delighted for them but it's still absolute bollocks to call it a bit of snow.

    all perspective, irish people think thats a lot of snow because we dont know any better
    There were some parts of the country where people were wading through snow up to their waists. Doesn't matter that it's worse in other countries - it was still severe. Obtuse to say it wasn't.


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    #142
    seamus
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    The only reason any Irish people hate the snow is because we're really crap at preparing for anything.

    Hopefully most of us have learned our lesson from last year and there won't be any fighting through the snow to try and find the last shovel in Woodies or the last bag of dishwasher salt in Tesco.

    Any weather conditions are fine if you've had the cop on to prepare in advance.


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    #143
    Cunning Stunt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭Cunning Stunt


    seamus wrote: »
    The only reason any Irish people hate the snow is because we're really crap at preparing for anything.

    Any weather conditions are fine if you've had the cop on to prepare in advance.


    ..and that goes for the county councils aswell. Maybe they will invest in a few more snow ploughs / salting trucks this year :rolleyes:

    I personally hope Ireland doesnt get as much snow as last year. My parents are out in the sticks and they had no heating and no running water all over Christmas - had to open up an old well which thankfully wasn't frozen. Having to flush the toilet using a bucket of water was not ideal...and when the water came back there were burst pipes all over the place, most of course located in awkward places behind the walls :mad:


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    #144
    Dudess
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    seamus wrote: »
    The only reason any Irish people hate the snow is because we're really crap at preparing for anything.

    Hopefully most of us have learned our lesson from last year and there won't be any fighting through the snow to try and find the last shovel in Woodies or the last bag of dishwasher salt in Tesco.

    Any weather conditions are fine if you've had the cop on to prepare in advance.
    Not true. "Any"? Like Siberia? Yeah, "fine" I'm sure...

    Also, bit much to be speaking for any Irish people, Seamus. I hate severe snow for reasons more than not being prepared.
    Also, a good bit of notice is required to be sufficiently prepared. It was unexpected here, despite some geniuses claiming we should be on a par with the Alaskans. It's not difficult to grasp the above, but shur what the heck - any excuse for a bit of auld "We Irish are useless" rubbish, including blatant lying that it was "a bit of" snow. Some people need to brush up on their maths. :)


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    #145
    Dudess
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    Cunning Stunt wrote: »
    seamus wrote: »
    The only reason any Irish people hate the snow is because we're really crap at preparing for anything.

    Any weather conditions are fine if you've had the cop on to prepare in advance.


    ..and that goes for the county councils aswell. Maybe they will invest in a few more snow ploughs / salting trucks this year :rolleyes:

    I personally hope Ireland doesnt get as much snow as last year. My parents are out in the sticks and they had no heating and no running water all over Christmas - had to open up an old well which thankfully wasn't frozen. Having to flush the toilet using a bucket of water was not ideal...and when the water came back there were burst pipes all over the place, most of course located in awkward places behind the walls :mad:
    Ah now, don't be blaming the primary factor - the snow. It was your parents' fault for not being prepared. ;)
    Shur that kind of snow is great fun - and it's only a light dusting. :)


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    #146
    seamus
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    We had a heavy snowfall 10 months previous - heavy enough to cause chaos. So we really had no excuse for not being prepared or claiming that it was "unexpected". Snowfall was expected. When snowfall is expected you should be prepared to have to dig yourself out, make your way to work in the snow, or if you're a good distance out you should be prepared to be snowed in.

    As I said last year, we had about ten years where there was very light snowfall, if even, during winter. That was the freak occurence, not the norm. The kind of snowfall we saw last year is not unknown in Ireland, it's what should be expected. When I was a kid it snowed every winter. At least heavily enough to make it impossible to go to school.


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    #147
    Dudess
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    When I was a kid the snow was nowhere near as severe as the last two years, bar winter 81/82 and January 87, thus making severe snow here unexpected. Now if it was Finland, yeah, folks should be prepared, but blaming so much of the difficulties on people themselves rather than the conditions is a good example of the blaming fetish some folks seem to have.
    Looking forward to the gems that will be thrown at people who weren't prepared for the floods in Dublin. And even if they were, it wouldn't have been "grand".


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    #148
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    dudess the problem is the only thing we can do when it comes to weather is prepare, its not like we can turn around and kill the weather or anything :D, we have had heavy snowfall (in irish terms anyway) for the last two years, we should be prepared for this year, as for the dublin flooding, well that was a freak occurrence, to get that much rain in so little time is near unheard of in this country


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    #149
    Mr Benevolent
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    Princess Peach wrote: »
    Oh I can't wait! Snow is so pretty and I love snowmen and ear muffs and snow balls and taking walks and playing in the snow :D

    GET HER!


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    #150
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    dudess the problem is the only thing we can do when it comes to weather is prepare, its not like we can turn around and kill the weather or anything :D, we have had heavy snowfall (in irish terms anyway) for the last two years, we should be prepared for this year, as for the dublin flooding, well that was a freak occurrence, to get that much rain in so little time is near unheard of in this country
    The weather the last two winters was freak too. Definitely agree we need to prepare ourselves this year (although it's still difficult even with prep - totally untrue to say prep makes everything just dandy) but you can't blame people for not being prepared in 09, nor can you blame them for assuming it was a one-off and thus not being prepared in 2010. Last such mad freezing was 81/82 and that was a one-off.


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    #151
    Icyseanfitz
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    our problem in this country is that we are so used of mild weather that any bit of hard or extreme weather sends us into chaos, i think every country at our latitude should be somewhat prepared for heavy snow and rain, its no excuse to say it only happens every now and then so we wont bother preparing for it,

    if we get a hard winter this year i think it should be a fair indicator that its getting colder and we just need to be ready for snow


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