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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Simmental.


    Is LM2014 still available?

    Did something happen to him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Simmental. wrote: »
    Did something happen to him?

    I thought someone said on here before that he was gone.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭tanko


    That turned out to be wrong at the time, he was available in June anyway.
    His docility figure on ICBF isn't good, are his calves a bit lively?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    What did you decide in the end squinn2912?

    I'm a bit late to the party but not seen a bad KZH calf yet.

    Meant to post this earlier, but can't link Twitter off the phone.
    Under serious pressure with the calf (s) in her when she lies down. Poor lass.
    https://twitter.com/LadyHaywire/status/1197194431641870336


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I have a cow like that when she was incalf to a char. Once I switched to Limosuin on her, she has being fine since. She's 15 years old now, so can't complain.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    tanko wrote: »
    That turned out to be wrong at the time, he was available in June anyway.
    His docility figure on ICBF isn't good, are his calves a bit lively?

    1 calf here, a whopper but lively


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Moondharrig knell lm4217 if munster, ewendale ivor lm2014 if with dovea

    Just seeing this now. And what d’ya know 2xIvor and 1xKnell. Not that pushed on docility score of knell hope they don’t end up crazies

    Now just noticing all the other replies. Phone didn’t notify me. Thanks guys. My Ai man loves Ivor. Knell worries me a little but then so did Bollide and that wee heifer is bulled now. My policy is not to go lim ai as we have a lim bull (most of these heifers his daughters so soon a new issue) but nothing sells like it or ch in our area


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭Who2


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Just seeing this now. And what d’ya know 2xIvor and 1xKnell. Not that pushed on docility score of knell hope they don’t end up crazies

    Now just noticing all the other replies. Phone didn’t notify me. Thanks guys. My Ai man loves Ivor. Knell worries me a little but then so did Bollide and that wee heifer is bulled now. My policy is not to go lim ai as we have a lim bull (most of these heifers his daughters so soon a new issue) but nothing sells like it or ch in our area
    I’ve a heifer off bolide here, coming 12 months and I wouldn’t be impressed with her temperament. As for Charolais they sell well anywhere it’s a pity they aren’t a bit tougher as calves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Who2 wrote: »
    I’ve a heifer off bolide here, coming 12 months and I wouldn’t be impressed with her temperament. As for Charolais they sell well anywhere it’s a pity they aren’t a bit tougher as calves.

    Yea our wee girl is a lovely one and panics a bit when cornered but she’s grand. I find all parthanese dislike handling or being annoyed they’re very irritable. Make good wee cows though.
    Ah I know that about the Charolais of course. My point is that outside of lim, ch and maybe a bb you don’t get much here round the ring


  • Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭dodo mommy


    tanko wrote: »
    That turned out to be wrong at the time, he was available in June anyway.
    His docility figure on ICBF isn't good, are his calves a bit lively?

    I have a ped bull off him 11 months old he used to be going around the field bawling during the summer I thought not good, but sence he went in he is a pet no problem scratching him in the pin on his own just stands their.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    How in the name of God can a bull drop from -1.70Kg milk at 97% Rel to -3.00kg at 98% in just 2 months. The mighty ZAG folks. What he hell is going on here?
    It looks like his daughters are just calving down now. Just prooves that they can tell fook all from the Genomics testing.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Apologies if this has already been covered but I’ve been advised to stay clear of Lodge Hamlet. Calves meant to be stone wild. Any experience that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Apologies if this has already been covered but I’ve been advised to stay clear of Lodge Hamlet. Calves meant to be stone wild. Any experience that?

    I only have the one.....no issue with temperament....a lot of pedigree breeders using him and again I have not heard of any issue


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭tanko


    He has a very good score for docility on ICBF.
    Lm2014 has a very poor score for docility on there.
    I've no calves off either yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭tanko


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    I only have the one.....no issue with temperament....a lot of pedigree breeders using him and again I have not heard of any issue

    What age is yours, what do you think of Lodge Hamlet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    tanko wrote: »
    What age is yours, what do you think of Lodge Hamlet?

    He is shapey but I’m not sure how much he will grow up:D. I get a photo tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    tanko wrote: »
    He has a very good score for docility on ICBF.
    Lm2014 has a very poor score for docility on there.
    I've no calves off either yet.

    Yea I can see into that. I’d some very jumpy calves but I think they’d have come, I sold them. No hamlet here


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Apologies if this has already been covered but I’ve been advised to stay clear of Lodge Hamlet. Calves meant to be stone wild. Any experience that?

    I've a young Lodge Hamlet bull here. Extremely quiet animal. I expect him to be vertically challenged too. :D
    Heifers by him will be a disaster, I think. Just don't look right from what I've seen of them. No milk either.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    I've a young Lodge Hamlet bull here. Extremely quiet animal. I expect him to be vertically challenged too. :D
    Heifers by him will be a disaster, I think. Just don't look right from what I've seen of them. No milk either.

    Talk cow with lots of milk needed so


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    I've a young Lodge Hamlet bull here. Extremely quiet animal. I expect him to be vertically challenged too. :D
    Heifers by him will be a disaster, I think. Just don't look right from what I've seen of them. No milk either.

    Would there be a little bit of something else in his back ground to make him small!!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Would there be a little bit of something else in his back ground to make him small!!!!

    That's what I think too. The heifers I saw look like bb' s anyway.
    His myostatin status is nt821/+. All the belgian blues are nt821/nt821.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    If you search #lodgehamlet into Instagram theres some serious stock, mainly English.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭tanko


    Talk cow with lots of milk needed so

    I'd say you'd need a Holstein cow to have a Lodge Hamlet daughter with any milk.
    I noticed today that the sires of Gamin (ZGM) and Loyal (LM4184) are full brothers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tanko wrote: »
    I'd say you'd need a Holstein cow to have a Lodge Hamlet daughter with any milk.
    I noticed today that the sires of Gamin (ZGM) and Loyal (LM4184) are full brothers.

    Is it not Rocky (rox) and Loyal?

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭tanko


    Rocky and Laurel have the same sire, Jacot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,707 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    tanko wrote: »
    Rocky and Laurel have the same sire, Jacot.

    Sorry, misread what you said.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭annubis


    anyone have any cows/heifers by netherhall jackpot, ive one not a iliion miles from calving..doesnt look like she is going to have much milk:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,226 ✭✭✭tanko


    annubis wrote: »
    anyone have any cows/heifers by netherhall jackpot, ive one not a iliion miles from calving..doesnt look like she is going to have much milk:(

    Looking at his breeding he's very poor for milk, he looks like a hard calved muscle machine.
    What's the mother off, any milk coming from that side?
    Might be no harm to have some biestings handy if there's nothing there for the calf when it arrives.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭Who2


    Anyone any experience with tomschoice jet?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 432 ✭✭annubis


    tanko wrote: »
    Looking at his breeding he's very poor for milk, he looks like a hard calved muscle machine.
    What's the mother off, any milk coming from that side?
    Might be no harm to have some biestings handy if there's nothing there for the calf when it arrives.
    big panda cow, ya pretty good for milk, jackpot stars changed totally from ai ing time to when this lady arrived and yes definitely hard calved, wouldnt use again


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