Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

Hard Knocks

Has anyone here used Deeleview Major Charolais bull in Bova?

Lady Haywire

Lady Haywire wrote: »

My first set of twins were by him. Look framey, not muscley so would be good for bullocks or yearling heifers, not weanlings.
Then again, they're twins so my calves could be a bit shíte too :pac:

Might withdraw my Bivouac comment Not bad for a senior citizen cow!

Hard Knocks

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Might withdraw my Bivouac comment Not bad for a senior citizen cow!

Is that the bull calf?
He’s a nice calf
Does the cow need to be muscled?

Lady Haywire

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Is that the bull calf?
He’s a nice calf
Does the cow need to be muscled?

Yea, that's the two twins. Cow isn't really muscley, out of Navarin & an CH/AA/FR dam. She has milk though.
Bull is a touch low in himself, just hasn't stretched like the heifer but he was born smaller so expect he'll catch up at some stage. Bout 6 months now I think.

I had used Bivouac again on a heifer this year but she repeated & broke to a ch bull so nothing due to him next year :pac:

Hard Knocks

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Yea, that's the two twins. Cow isn't really muscley, out of Navarin & an CH/AA/FR dam. She has milk though.
Bull is a touch low in himself, just hasn't stretched like the heifer but he was born smaller so expect he'll catch up at some stage. Bout 6 months now I think.

I had used Bivouac again on a heifer this year but she repeated & broke to a ch bull so nothing due to him next year :pac:

I’m interested as I like him for PB breeding due to gestation
Was told he didn’t suit my cow as she wasn’t muscle enough , so just wondering others opinion

grassroot1

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Might withdraw my Bivouac comment Not bad for a senior citizen cow!

fair play ye never seem to have a bad one

Lady Haywire

Hard Knocks wrote: »

I’m interested as I like him for PB breeding due to gestation
Was told he didn’t suit my cow as she wasn’t muscle enough , so just wondering others opinion

He'd probably need some muscle in the cows breeding, like I wouldn't go putting him on anything off a dairy cow. I've not seen any PB stock off him either, just when you mention it.

grassroot1 wrote: »

fair play ye never seem to have a bad one

The Pottlereagh Mark one isn't much at the moment! Goldie though so he has that going for him. Pleased with those two for 6 months though. I'd have been happy with either of them as a single.

grassroot1

Are they on meal?

Lady Haywire

grassroot1 wrote: »

Are they on meal?

Yea, 13 calves on about 15kg a day but I reckon the 2 older calves along with the six twins eating a good chunk of that.

Seanhorse91

Anyone on here have any experience with the following bulls..
Maerdy Sinndar
Bova Sylvian
Looking to use them on a purebred cow, pirate in her back pedigree to try and produce a more traditional Charolais.
Sagesse Pierre, recently bought by Bova, is out of Maerdy Sinndar, he’s a smashing looking bull. Reserve champion in tullamore

Hard Knocks

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Anyone on here have any experience with the following bulls..
Maerdy Sinndar
Bova Sylvian
Looking to use them on a purebred cow, pirate in her back pedigree to try and produce a more traditional Charolais.
Sagesse Pierre, recently bought by Bova, is out of Maerdy Sinndar, he’s a smashing looking bull. Reserve champion in tullamore

Sylvian is the way to go, noted cow maker
Sadly Stars aren’t great

Seanhorse91

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Sylvian is the way to go, noted cow maker
Sadly Stars aren’t great

Have you used him yourself? Is he leaving good females?
The star system can really leave a great looking bull like him with good pedigree in the lurch. Awful pity

Hard Knocks

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Have you used him yourself? Is he leaving good females?
The star system can really leave a great looking bull like him with good pedigree in the lurch. Awful pity

I’ve no Sylvain females but intend to use him.
Had a bull (which we lost) lovely calf
Other breeders highly recommend

Seanhorse91

Hard Knocks wrote: »

I’ve no Sylvain females but intend to use him.
Had a bull (which we lost) lovely calf
Other breeders highly recommend

Thanks very much Hard Knocks, I’ll give him a go. I’m guessing his star rating have an effect on his price, only €10 a straw. Saying that Bova seem to always have a fair price on their straws

Hard Knocks

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Thanks very much Hard Knocks, I’ll give him a go. I’m guessing his star rating have an effect on his price, only €10 a straw. Saying that Bova seem to always have a fair price on their straws

Stars have no effect on straw price
What age is your cow & how many calves?

GiantPencil

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

tanko

He's four and a half years old now, an ideal bull for heifers.

Hard Knocks

GiantPencil wrote: »

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

Any pic?

GiantPencil

Hard Knocks wrote: »

GiantPencil wrote: »

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

Any pic?

Didn't take one I'm afraid. Hopefully someone else posts one

High bike

GiantPencil wrote: »

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

have a smasher of a heifer off him from last year

Sugarbowl

High bike wrote: »

have a smasher of a heifer off him from last year

I had a U grade bull off him 2 years ago. Great weanling at the time.
I thought he was gone from the Munster AI book last year?

tanko

Sugarbowl wrote: »

I had a U grade bull off him 2 years ago. Great weanling at the time.
I thought he was gone from the Munster AI book last year?

He was available from PG this summer anyway.

High bike

Was Munster I got him from

Seanhorse91

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Stars have no effect on straw price
What age is your cow & how many calves?

2014 cow. 4 calves.
She’s a great breeder, fertile, and good bag of milk.

Hard Knocks

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

2014 cow. 4 calves.
She’s a great breeder, fertile, and good bag of milk.

Great cow
Jupiter & Jumper are other options too

Seanhorse91

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Great cow
Jupiter & Jumper are other options too

Jupiter semen would be hard got tho I’d imagine. Jumper still in progressive I see. I didn’t even think of him. I might actually look into getting a few straws of him. Thanks for the heads up Hard KnocksðŸ‘

Hard Knocks

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Jupiter semen would be hard got tho I’d imagine. Jumper still in progressive I see. I didn’t even think of him. I might actually look into getting a few straws of him. Thanks for the heads up Hard KnocksðŸ‘

I got some Jupiter off the Charolais society last year, give them a call, after that K genetics or Bartley Finnegan

patsy_mccabe

GiantPencil wrote: »

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

Here he is;

https://twitter.com/progressivegen/status/1174213941037359104

Lady Haywire

Is that a son of his or the actual bull?

tanko

Looks like a son.
Highfield Odran is in Ballygar Salers in Galway i think.