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Guns N' Roses Discussion Thread
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Motley Crue wrote: »WHAT A NIGHT!!!!!!!
Axl Rose was on fire, an incredible performer, and the band were so in key. But, more importantly, the people of Dublin gave him exactly what he wanted and there wasn't a single boo. Besides, most of the scumbags were too high, so when Axl did come on I had about four people beside me just holding their heads in their hands and falling on the ground completely spaced out....quite funny when you think about it....
I didn't see anyone even try and launch a bottle, best crowd ever, even Fortus and Ron started clapping when Axl thanked the crowd for their patience - and then he even made fun of himself over last time haha
Panther and the Black Queen or whatever they're called were ****ing useless! Absolute **** and I couldn't get behind any of their material. That girl at the front needs to just get her **** together.
Thin Lizzy... I can't fault what great songs these are, but they just remind me of what a legend Phil Lynott was, and what great session players these men are. That guy fronting Thin Lizzy sounds a lot like Phil at times though, which isn't really what you want, because it makes you think they've turned on the Greatest Hits lol...still, a really enjoyable set, but I think they'd thrown in a few numbers to extend the set...didn't understand why there were six members of this band and only three of the original Thin Lizzy. But anyway, still, did think as a support they got the crowd going. During 'Whiskey In The Jar' though all I taught of was this....;)
Guns N' Roses.... Incredible set, Mental Mickey will be silenced this morning (JOKE) and this really was more then even I (by some definitions a hardcore fan) was even expecting...what a sound, it just exploded when Axl came out and the people just gave him the energy he wanted...we didn't even seem to mind that the injury affected his ability to run around like a lunatic, as he said himself, it was more then he'd done the last time lol
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM AGAIN NEXT WEEK IN NEWCASTLE!!!!!
OH, AND I MET BUMBLEFOOT BEFORE THE SHOW, FINALLY...PICTURE SOON
AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I MET scudzilla AND HIS MISSUS IN THE CROWD, SERIOUSLY, WHAT A LEGEND...WAS REALLY NICE TO FINALLY MEET SOMEONE ELSE FROM ROCK AND METAL WHOSE POSTS I'VE BEEN READING FOR YEARS IN ENGLAND TO KEEP ME SANE AND ON THE PATH OF IRISHNESS
LOL. I ended up going to the gig. My bro bought me a pair of tickets for my b'day. Have to say I was pleasantly surprised at how chilled Axl was, and at how good they sounded.
Loads of highlights for me: in particular TWAT, Estranged, Sweet Child O'Mine, Better.
My brother got a load of videos on his phone too, so I'll either post them here, or on my FB page......?
I reckon that will probably be the last time we'll see Axl here. The guy struggles to do a full set nowadays. My brother reckoned he's on some o2 now himself lol!!!!!0 -
Mental Mickey wrote: »LOL. I ended up going to the gig. My bro bought me a pair of tickets for my b'day.
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StaticAge11 wrote: »Raging that I didnt go to this! What were Axels comments in relation to the last time?
In fairness, Civil War has been played in almost gig they've done since the start of the year and a few last year in North America...so, it seems that MCD were talking **** again.
He said something like "bear with me, you'll have to bear with me because...I'm just finding out what I can and can't do" of course in relation to his leg injury on the table and then said "but of course you'll notice I'm probably moving around a lot more then the last time I was here, eh?" at which point Tommy (the bassist) breaks his heart laughing
I also felt sorry for Tommy when they played his song, Motivation I think he calls it, and nobody reacted at all...plus his microphone was far too low.Mental Mickey wrote: »Can u post them here??
Yeah, sure
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Motley Crue wrote: »Me and Mr Foot
Hey Motley. I recognise you from your pic. I saw you in the queue outside....
I was out there with my brother sitting near the various food vans stuffin me face.0 -
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The thing is, how long more can Axl do this nostalgia tour and get away with it? I just don't get him. He disowns the old band yet his idea of moving on is 1 album since 1994. There is no sign of any new material on the horizon. He hasn't once hit the studio with this line-up. He seems to be a spent force creatively. He is 50 now and probably has about 5years left with the way he sings before he just won't be able to deliver. I think these tours are just a cash grab so that he can retire and continue his lavish lifestyle. He puts on a good show but once you've seen it once it just becomes boring and predictable unless he throws a strop. How the mighty have fallen. I really thought we'd have 3 albums from the Chinese Democracy era by now.
I have to disagree. All of the band members (with the exception of Ashba) contributed to the latest album Chinese Democracy in a big way - even Frank re-recorded a lot of the drums so that he could make his presence felt.
I understand what you're saying but since Ashba has joined the band we've had loads of tours, globally, we've had a lot more media related things (such as pictures, meet and greet, Axl on THAT Metal show on VH1 Classic, twitter updates, Ashba being the kind of poster boy for the band)
Ashba himself has done a lot to make this band more Media accessible because beforehand Axl was shying away from tackling issues and doing interviews...Ashba arranged for him to appear on THAT Metal Show and this was a huge boost and led to the second leg of North American dates earlier this year...and I think the band are making a huge effort
Plus, Ashba has spoken about the fact that he's already written new material with Axl for a future release, and Tommy sang a song last night that was written and recorded by the new line up (minus Axl). Wasn't the best, but hey, they're making an effort more than 2002...
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Motley Crue wrote: »I have to disagree. All of the band members (with the exception of Ashba) contributed to the latest album Chinese Democracy in a big way - even Frank re-recorded a lot of the drums so that he could make his presence felt.
I understand what you're saying but since Ashba has joined the band we've had loads of tours, globally, we've had a lot more media related things (such as pictures, meet and greet, Axl on THAT Metal show on VH1 Classic, twitter updates, Ashba being the kind of poster boy for the band)
Ashba himself has done a lot to make this band more Media accessible because beforehand Axl was shying away from tackling issues and doing interviews...Ashba arranged for him to appear on THAT Metal Show and this was a huge boost and led to the second leg of North American dates earlier this year...and I think the band are making a huge effort
Plus, Ashba has spoken about the fact that he's already written new material with Axl for a future release, and Tommy sang a song last night that was written and recorded by the new line up (minus Axl). Wasn't the best, but hey, they're making an effort more than 2002...
I have to disagree with you Motley .. TheGimp's point all relate to the fact that almost nothing new has been created by this line-up. Media appearances etc are not "output" ...0 -
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Hope you stood up when Lizzy told you toHere's a few photos taken from the comfort of my seat, getin' auld you know.
It's all the running around he does. It gives him his breath back quicker. The way he sings means he needs a lot of it. When he doesnt run around, his voice is perfect. When he runs around he gets out of breath, and his vocals suffer. The oxygen is to try and counter that.Not sure what the oxygen actually does. How does that enhance vocal ability? Or how would it rejuvenate him? It's not like the gig was on top of Mount Everest.0 -
Great feckin gig last night. Thoroughly enjoyed it, perhaps the uncertainty of how it'd go down played a big part too.
Arrived at the O2 about 7:15 and quickly made my way to the bar to grab two (miniature) pints for myself (and a baileys (???) for the lady friend), followed by a quick smoke before heading stagewards to catch the first act of the evening, Vengeance and the Panther Queen.
I'm sorry to say that it I really didn't enjoy their set at all
. The sound for a start, was abysmal, guitars were muddy and difficult to hear clearly, the drums lacked any real impact until maybe 3/4 songs in, and the vocals were for the most part, were incomprehensible besides a high pitched warble that sounded like it could* be a Beth Ditto-esque style of singing. I can't really judge the band therefore, because I'd be lying if I tried to say I actually heard them in any real sense. If I'm around town again sometime they're playing I might catch them again, and hopefully the sound issues were genuinely just sound issues and not just a lack of cohesion between the musicians involved.
At this point I was very wary of how the sound might pan out for the night, and as we slowly tip towed our way closer to the front barrier, I kept my fingers crossed that a different engineer would be at the helm for the legendary Thin Lizzy.
Make it to three rows from the front.
Brian Downey walks onstage to rapturous applause, followed by the rest of the band at their respective positions, Ricky Warwick takes the mic: "Are you Ready???".
What followed was an hour of absolute ear candy for me, I'm a pretty big Thin Lizzy fan, and hadn't heard this lineup perform before. All I can say, if you haven't seen it, they're well worth a few bob for a good night out. They played for about an hour and threw in all the classics such as Massacre, Still In Love With You, Emerald, Rosalie, Jailbreak etc etc. I would have happily spent another hour with these guys on stage just so I might get to hear the likes of Angel of Death or Black Rose. Pure class, they had energy by the truckload and did all of the songs justice.
So about 9:30 Lizzy disappeared into the wings, and the stage crew began to disassemble their gear and ready the stage for Gn'R. Some girls asked to be pulled from the front barrier. Hand on barrier, success.
9:55 - Stage is ready, pyro in place, sporadic chants of "Guns... n'.... Roses" from around the venue. Clock is ticking. Take a few minutes to sing along to that Xmas tune by RATM as its played over the PA.
Cameraman "Sixx Williams" takes a seat in front of where we're parked at the barrier. Looks a bit browned off, holds his head in his hands for a good ten minutes. Hmm... Is there a problem?
No Problem. Lights go out at 10:20 and we're given some Chinese Democracy.
Now, I must say, it took me quite some time to warm to Gn'R after they took to the stage, maybe it was the fact that I enjoyed Thin Lizzy so goddamn much, maybe it was the lineup, maybe it was Chinese Democracy itself, as I'd never really warmed to that album too much. So I reckon it wasn't until You Could Be Mine was belted out that I really started feeling the goosebumps that I so readily associate with a good gig.
I must say, for all the hype, I don't think all that much of DJ Ashba. Might be just me, but he comes across to me as more interested in himself than the actual music, and seemed to wander around on his own quite a bit, with little interaction with the rest of the band bar wAxl. Then again, from where I was I couldn't see a whole lot of him anyways, asides from when he came over centre stage or stage right, he seemed to spent most of his time over stage left. Bumblefoot though, I must say, I was amazed by. Its not too often you see a dude playing a bit of fretless guitar live, and he did it quite well, and seemed quite humble and more about the actual music than the rest. The bloody tears makeup thing he had going on looked pretty kickass too.
I must concur with some of the other posters from earlier that the solos were a little bit much, especially considering the length of the show. During the second half of the gig I was thinking "would they ever hurry the feck up and play a goddamned song!". Although I thoroughly enjoyed Dizzy coming up front and playing Baba O'Reilly (which the majority of the people in my direct vicinity had never heard, young wans, eh?).
Was nice to see wAxl poking a bit of fun at himself and even criticising his own vocal performance during the encore, maybe there's hope for him yet? (nah)
All in all a very enjoyable night, despite having to walk back to town since the Luas had finished running, the girlfriend got plenty of face time on the big screen too (I think the aforementioned Mr. Williams had a bit of a thing for her).
Highlights of the night:
Thin Lizzy : Are You Ready
Thin Lizzy : Massacre
Thin Lizzy : Emerald
Thin Lizzy : Still In Love With You
Guns n' Roses : Welcome to The Jungle
Guns n' Roses : It's so Easy
Guns n' Roses : Better
Guns n' Roses : You Could be Mine
Guns n' Roses : Don't Cry
Guns n' Roses : November Rain
Guns n' Roses : Civil War
Guns n' Roses : Night Train
Frank Sinatra : My Way (played over the PA at the end, danced and sang our way towards the exits! )
I've a few more pics here that I'll upload soon!0 -
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Hope you stood up when Lizzy told you to
It's all the running around he does. It gives him his breath back quicker. The way he sings means he needs a lot of it. When he doesnt run around, his voice is perfect. When he runs around he gets out of breath, and his vocals suffer. The oxygen is to try and counter that.
Ah okay. In fairness though that's still just some bizarre eccentric ritual though.
If getting on oxygen was so good, wouldn't all sports players have oxygen at the side of the pitch to rejuvenate. Or in American football where they change teams depending on the play. If he did exercise once a week, it would be far superior.0
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