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Formula 1 2011: Round 14 - Singapore Grand Prix

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    #122
    amacachi
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    My only complain is Hamilton getting ahead of DiResta.

    EDIT: Well, also getting ahead of Massa.


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    #123
    Grim.
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    Jake Humphrey is boring me now what a biased wanker


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    #124
    amacachi
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    EJ talkin out his hoop tbh. It was the absolute definition of Avoidable Contact. It was a ridiculous mistake for him to make. Yes it was a low-speed accident but it could've caused a different kind of puncture than it did. Wheel-to-wheel stuff is one thing, wing-on-tyre is completely seperate.


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    #125
    Ghost Train
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    I don't know, pretty minor incident with Hamilton. How many noses has Michael lost this year. Did miss the post race comments


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    #126
    EvilMonkey
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    No press conference, totally biased commentary and pundits and some people think the bbc are the best broadcaster of F1 :mad:


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    #127
    Cool_CM
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    RTL just showed an interview with Massa who understandably stuck the boot into Hamilton big time.
    Wonder if BBC will show anything like that?

    EDIT: Actually, they have the text up online now:
    Massa wrote:
    "My thoughts are that, again, he cannot use his mind - even in qualifying. Again, he could've caused a big accident. He's paying for it. He doesn't understand that. He has done it to me so many times this year. It's important the FIA study this and penalise him every time. I've talked to him but he doesn't listen. Maybe his father can do something about it."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9599413.stm


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    #128
    amacachi
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    Ghost Train wrote: »
    I don't know, pretty minor incident with Hamilton. How many noses has Michael lost this year. Did miss the post race comments

    Minor but it completely spoiler someone else's race for no reason whatsoever.


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    #129
    Grim.
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    terrible biased forum again cant say ill miss jake or eddie tbh


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    #130
    amacachi
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    Button looks absolutely wrecked and Webber looks like he could really do with them raising the minimum weight on the cars. :pac:

    EDIT: Is there anywhere to view the extended press conference at some point? I remember BBC showed it once in 2010 or 2009 I think and it seemed like the best craic is had in the later parts.


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    #131
    Ghost Train
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    amacachi wrote: »
    Minor but it completely spoiler someone else's race for no reason whatsoever.

    Yes but he got drive through for it. Unlucky for Massa of course. Didn't Massa get 4th position in a recent race... but doesn't get noticed really compared to an Alonso result.


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    #132
    amacachi
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    Ghost Train wrote: »
    Yes but he got drive through for it. Unlucky for Massa of course. Didn't Massa get 4th position in a recent race... but doesn't get noticed really compared to an Alonso result.

    Do you think the penalty was justified? It wasn't a massive deal but it deserved the penalty IMO.


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    #133
    amacachi
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    Well I just lost the game.


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    #134
    Ghost Train
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    amacachi wrote: »
    Do you think the penalty was justified? It wasn't a massive deal but it deserved the penalty IMO.

    Penalty seemed fair enough. Lol rick astley on forum


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    #135
    amacachi
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    Ghost Train wrote: »
    Penalty seemed fair enough. Lol rick astley on forum

    Aye well that's it. It just annoys me that he ruined someone else's race and still ended up better than they did. A drive-through is all that was needed today but it's just frustrating.


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    #136
    Ghost Train
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    Hamilton does need to cut out the mistakes but seems to be a bigger deal made over his incidents than another driver might get. Button really driving well though. Great to see the contrast


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    #137
    Grim.
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    .
    Will Buxton
    Ructions in TV scrum. Massa shoved Hamilton mid question. Hamilton was asked if he could see Massa's point. Ham storms off to save exploding

    Basically RTLGP interviewing Ham. Mas tugs Ham back and sarcastically slaps his arm to say "bravo". Question goes in, Ham goes to cool off.


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    #138
    Grim.
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    jesus Eddie Jordan is cringe worthy


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    #139
    amacachi
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    Ghost Train wrote: »
    Hamilton does need to cut out the mistakes but seems to be a bigger deal made over his incidents than another driver might get. Button really driving well though. Great to see the contrast

    Well Brundle made a good distinction there between poor overtaking moves and what he did today and at Spa.


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    #140
    Cool_CM
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    Hamilton looked more pissed off than Massa tbh!


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    #141
    amacachi
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    If anyone comes across a clip of it on Youtube feel free to stick it up. :)


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    #142
    amacachi
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    Whitmarsh obviously being biased but ya can see he wants to stop having to lie :pac:


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    #143
    Grim.
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    not sure how anyone can say that wasn't a penalty tbh he turned right in on massa he could have run on but he didn't


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    #144
    Grim.
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    This Mclaren love in is getting old now im surprised jake is still able to breath his head is so far up martin whitmarsh's hole


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    #145
    Ghost Train
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    So I guess question would be if there's a racing incident, should penalty be dependant on how it effects those involved... or on just the incident. If massa hadn't got puncture would Hamilton have got drive through. Some good interviews of team bosses, hope they get to talk with some more of the drivers


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    #146
    amacachi
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    It wasn't just a racing incident, it was completely one driver's fault and as Brundle pointed out it wasn't a misjudged overtake, it was a pointless, silly error.


    I agree that basing punishments on the effects is a different argument, I'd personally be in favour of it in cases where one driver causes the incident.


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    #147
    Ghost Train
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    Well I'm sure if he had known they'd touch he would have gave it bit more room, Schumacher the same. Fecking long forum


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    #148
    Eglinton
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    Massa confronts Hamilton video


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    #149
    ottostreet
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    Great to see, I hope it escalates. I love nothing better than when two drivers don't like each other, it's all too friendly between them these days!


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    #150
    HugoBr
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    To me it comes down to a very simple matter of responsibility - Hamilton was responsible 100% for that incident. All too often this season he has been responsible for incident after incident.

    He's either pushing too hard in a car that is not quick/good enough or he's simply not as talented as people had hoped he would be.

    I fear its the latter which is a shame


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    #151
    Jordan 199
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    HugoBr wrote: »
    To me it comes down to a very simple matter of responsibility - Hamilton was responsible 100% for that incident. All too often this season he has been responsible for incident after incident.

    He's either pushing too hard in a car that is not quick/good enough or he's simply not as talented as people had hoped he would be.

    I fear its the latter which is a shame

    He's a very talented driver in my opinion. I think somebody needs to have a firm chat with him to point out his errors behind the wheel though.


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