What do you think Europe/Ireland would be like if Hitler won ?

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 4:04pm

marcsignal wrote: »

Not widely known, but Hitler was the first world politician to support the idea of a Jewish state, crazy as that seems.

I seem to remember hearing about one or two British PM's (well before WW2) making sympathetic noises on the subject

charlemont · 03-09-2011 4:06pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Didn't Hitler have a plan to turn Ireland into a holiday resort for Germans? The Irish would probably have become some sort of servant people that Nazis kept around for a laugh.

We could have been twisted drunk all day just for the entertainment of the Germans, Actually I think lots of Irish would like that.

mikemac · 03-09-2011 4:13pm

marcsignal wrote: »

Not widely known, but Hitler was the first world politician to support the idea of a Jewish state, crazy as that seems.

Sure they were talking about that after WWI and Versailles

Glassheart · 03-09-2011 4:14pm

charlemont wrote: »

We could have been twisted drunk all day just for the entertainment of the Germans, Actually I think lots of Irish would like that.

Germany isn't exactly the land that alcohol forgot...

paddyandy · 03-09-2011 4:16pm

ScumLord wrote: »

German tourists seem to like it here.

They do indeed but we get so few of them out of their huge population.

marcsignal · 03-09-2011 4:16pm

Mike 1972 wrote: »

I seem to remember hearing about one or two British PM's (well before WW2) making sympathetic noises on the subject

mikemac wrote: »

Sure they were talking about that after WWI and Versailles

Thats true, as it happens, Chaim Weizmann and Nahum Sokolow, lobbied British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour in 1917 for same.
It seemed to have been put on ice because of controversy.

good wiki on it here (not to be confused with the Balfour Declaration of 1926)

Adolf seemed to be keen on the idea, and didn't need much convincing.
The transfare agreement became impossible with the outbreak of war, and we know the rest.

Edit: It would be more accurate to say Adolf was the first head of state to approve of the idea

senorwipesalot · 03-09-2011 4:18pm

mattjack wrote: »

didnt he have a nephew or something related to him living here...he could have stayed with him till his house was sorted ..

His nephews a bit of a messer.
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Fnational-news%2Fhitler-and-friends-cleared-of-murder-charge-by-court-486702.html&ei=W0JiTuiGAo-zhAeny92ZCg&usg=AFQjCNHa_iZaLFvE4j8N0h9AqTkOJrqqtw

Mahatma coat · 03-09-2011 4:18pm

Easstern Europe would have have been very different, the Ukraine would have been the Bread basket of Europe instead of the USSR and Agricultural industrialisation would have meant that Farming died here in the 60's rather than the eighties, the other Eastern states that supported National Socialisim would have prospered, particularly Rumania and Hungary the Czech and Slovak seperation would have happened much earlier and Yugoslavia would have been united under an Ustasi croatian Government instead of Tito's Serb rule.

by the mid fifties most of the Ethnic cleansing should hae been completed and depending on what stage the Germans won the War at there would either be a Jewish Homeland or No Jews.

as for Ireland We would have fared relativly well, we are a peiphery nation with with enough Nordic DNA to mean we wouldt be executed enmass, wouldnt like to be Ginger tho.

as for our Economy, Farming woud be at the levels it is now with Cattle/Dairy being predominant and highly mechanised. we may well have still developed a decent Tech sector but we probably wouldnt have gone Bat**** building houses as that would have been take care of much earlier on.

ejmaztec · 03-09-2011 4:21pm

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Not necessarily.

Had the state of Israel been established prior to WW2 and the bulk of Europe's jewish population opted to move there en-masse Im pretty sure the Nazi's would have regarded it as fine and dandy. They even had their own vision of a Jewish homeland for a while albeit in Madagascar rather than Palestine. It was only when it became evident that this wasnt going to happen that they had the Wannsee Conference and the final solution kicked into full gear.

Besides nobody would be forging Irish passports since such documents (if they still existed at all) would be worth $hit all. Reich passports FTW

I think they would have kept on going with the final solution, it being a bad habit they wouldn't have been able to get out of (they had a taste for it at that stage). They wouldn't be wanting any survivors to be plotting against them from a newly created Jewish state. As they would have inherited British possessions, I think that they would have eradicated them there as well, for the same reason.

wolfpawnat · 03-09-2011 4:22pm

DjFlin wrote: »

Another interesting thread might be, "What if Britain Invaded Ireland in WWII?"

We would have went back to the previous 700 years! Actually we got support of the Germans to fight the English during Easter 1916! They would probably have offered to help again

only this time they would have stayed!

opinion guy · 03-09-2011 4:35pm

DeLorean cars would have been well engineered hugely popular, desired and reliable with a flux capacitor and time travel available only as expensive upgrades

ejmaztec · 03-09-2011 4:37pm

wolfpawnat wrote: »

We would have went back to the previous 700 years! Actually we got support of the Germans to fight the English during Easter 1916! They would probably have offered to help again only this time they would have stayed!

"Out of the frying-pan, into the fire":(

Big Nasty · 03-09-2011 4:48pm

Our women would all look like this!

John Doe1 · 03-09-2011 4:49pm

David hasselhoff would be MASSIVE. Also the church would still be big as it would have supported the nazi party.

Taco Corp · 03-09-2011 4:50pm

There would be even more grammar nazis on boards than there are now

marcsignal · 03-09-2011 4:50pm

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I would have liked to have heard Hitler getting into a shouting match with Ian Paisley.

That would have sounded something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfL3HUsz5o

KeithAFC · 03-09-2011 5:21pm

Probably would have tried to unite the island. So we would have to fight. (loyalists).

Mahatma coat · 03-09-2011 5:24pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

Probably would have tried to unite the island. So we would have to fight. (loyalists).

Well, seeing as your lot would have been viewed a collaborators with the Losing side Ye'd probably have been marched off to the Gas Chambers;)

KeithAFC · 03-09-2011 5:33pm

Well you have to do something.

dsmythy · 03-09-2011 5:49pm

opinion guy wrote: »

We would probably hear alot less '800 years of British rule' talk

And more of the 66 years of Reich rule.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 03-09-2011 5:51pm

We already had the third reich here-

Last FF gov kept creating the public hysteria to gather votes,then when the IMFF/opposition was invading they defected for their pensions!.

ejmaztec · 03-09-2011 6:13pm

dsmythy wrote: »

And more of the 66 years of Reich rule.

On the subject of "66", we wouldn't be hearing about some vanquished nation winning the World Cup either.:pac:

DecentBee · 03-09-2011 6:17pm

DjFlin wrote: »

This may be of interest to a few people too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Green_(Ireland)"

Ireland was also described as perfectly suited to military operations because of its "excellent network of roads"

Don't think the Nazis did very thorough research.

kincsem · 03-09-2011 6:20pm

We would all be driving Mercedes cars.

Next quesion?

LighterGuy · 03-09-2011 6:29pm

If they won ..

- We would most likely be speaking german.
- There would be a class system worse than what we already got. Anyone of german blood would be wealthy and in good jobs. Anyone who wasnt would be lower "scum" class being held down.

ejmaztec · 03-09-2011 6:37pm

DecentBee wrote: »

Ireland was also described as perfectly suited to military operations because of its "excellent network of roads"

Don't think the Nazis did very thorough research.

They'd probably be wondering how the roads got bomb craters when no bombs were dropped on them. They'd think we had a secret weapon called the NRA.

marcsignal · 03-09-2011 7:11pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

They'd probably be wondering how the roads got bomb craters when no bombs were dropped on them. They'd think we had a secret weapon called the NRA.

It would have been murder at the toll plazas :pac:

maddragon · 03-09-2011 7:24pm

There would have been an awful few decades of having the shxt kicked out of us and being ordered about by men in black uniforms. Oh wait that sounds familiar......

ToddyDoody · 03-09-2011 7:30pm

I'd say they might have gotten rid of irish, english and french as is from the school curriculums and replaced them with German language, literature, history etc. The national flag would have been scrapped, and i'd say they would have devised new territories, much like the british created kingcounty and queenscounty where offaly and laois are today. The rules around starting a business, inheretance, land ownership would be different. We'd dress differently, rte wouldnt exist, it'd be german state media and the papers would be german state controlled. Place names would be changed e.g. O'connell street, connolly station prob have to be changed to what the Germans wanted. Most importantly, Our natural resources (land, labour, capital, enterprise) would be configured so they served the father land. Would it have lasted long if it did happen?

bazza1 · 03-09-2011 7:35pm

Wont be long until the BundesBank repossess us anyway!
Deutchland, Deutchland uber alles!....:D

What do you think Europe/Ireland would be like if Hitler won ?

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