What do you think Europe/Ireland would be like if Hitler won ?

bayern282

Probably been asked before, seems to be a bit of a taboo question as well, but still intriguing. I think the Reich would have gone the way of the Soviet Union, keeping such a massive empire would have been almost impossible over decades or maybe Hitler's successors may have been less extreme, there were a lot of Generals etc who were far more pragmatic than the leadership that led the Germans into the folly of the Holocaust and invading Russia.

What would Ireland and the UK be like in your opinion? There would have been collaboration for instance, people like Lord Rothermere ( The Daily Mail ) were actively feathering their nests for the eventual take over as well as other members of the British aristocracy.

Jews and travellers would have had a hard time under the regime for sure, would there be a sort of Vichy style United Ireland as well?, as in one nation albeit ruled against the wishes of both communities on the Island.

Some Republicans had Nazi sympathies purely based on anti-Britishness however I think a German takeover would have split the movement even if they created a UI.

Saila

it would be some sort of superstate with one single currency...oh no wait!

Chris P. Bacon

We wouldnt have so many potholes.

squod

Sunnier

Saila

we might have good infrastructure in general and less of a lessaiz faire attitude

Einhard

Read Fatherland by Robert Harris. Gives a good idea of a post-Nazi Europe. It's chilling in "banality of evil" kind of way.

R P McMurphy

The circus circus casino in Las Vegas

ejmaztec

We'd all have free Hugo Boss suits and shiny boots.

krudler

impeccable dress sense, if you're gonna invade a country, have a kickass uniform.

The King of Moo

Not too different in this country, we'd just have fascist leaders with nice uniforms rather than silly vestments and hats.

Celly Smunt

the bus time table would be a time table not a guideline.

Tonto86

Call of duty would be a a tad different...

Nodin

bayern282 wrote: »

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Jews and travellers would have had a hard time under the regime for sure, ........

Ever so slightly understating it there, I'd say.

As for the overall question "Not suffering from overpopulation" would be a safe bet.

DaBomb

We probably wouldn't be allowed use boards.ie :eek:

CrazyRabbit

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

I.E....we'd all be dead....we don't even number 6 million.

AnonoBoy

****e.

WindSock

Oh, I just remembered last nights dream. I was taking some crims to see auswichz on a tour in a train.

THe end

Cordially, windsock.

Celly Smunt

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

I.E....we'd all be dead....we don't even number 6 million.

i think i'd pick hitler over the church

goose2005

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

I.E....we'd all be dead....we don't even number 6 million.

Unlikely. He himself was raised Catholic and would probably have tried to control the church or destroy it, but he wouldn't have wiped out the irish - as "Celts" we were high up enough in the racial chart.

It depends how Germany won as well - did they beat the Soviet Union or make an alliance?

DjFlin

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France. We were neutral, so he probably would have just left us be. Interestingly enough, we may have had a 'United Ireland' in such a case.

Bloody Nipples

We'd have an autobóthar.

bigneacy

DjFlin wrote: »

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France. We were neutral, so he probably would have just left us be. Interestingly enough, we may have had a 'United Ireland' in such a case.

Fire up the flux capacitor then so

paddyandy

All the mentally ill and psychically inferior in ireland would be eliminated so Our population would be half supplemented by aryan stock on special allowances would have brought it up to 7mn+-Crude estimate of course.

Wibbs

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics.

Unlikely, contrary to very popular belief Hitler wasn't an atheist*. He was raised by a Catholic mother though his father was an agnostic. He was much closer to his mother his father being a distant figure. His public pronouncements in writing and speech were pro Christianity in the vast majority of cases. He was anti atheism as he saw it as a communist thing. Some have suggested privately he was the opposite but their sources are dubious. Unless the church came out actively against him(unlikely and in the event didn't) I'd bet he'd leave it alone. Or use it, like everything else.

What would Europe be like? You could look at Franco's Spain. He was one of the big three fascist leaders in Europe and the only one to die of old age in his bed.









*The religious love to trot that one out as a black mark against atheism, but its not correct.

plein de force

better roads
most people would speak german by now i'd say

dsmythy

DjFlin wrote: »

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France. We were neutral, so he probably would have just left us be. Interestingly enough, we may have had a 'United Ireland' in such a case.

Irish people would have been dealt with to provide an Aryan island holiday getaway.

People talk about a United Ireland. Sure it would be a United Ireland - under the Third Reich. About as much of a United Ireland to Republicans as a United Ireland within the UK. UK & Ireland as one province would have been handier to the Nazis.

Reality is of course that the Nazi Third Reich would have gone the same way as the Soviet Union eventually after much blood spilt.

Mike 1972

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Well Hitler wasn't exactly fond of Catholics either. I reckon that when he ran out of Jews to blame for everything, he would have turned on the Catholics..

If thats the case at least he had the decency to top himself first.

Hail 2 Da Thief

It would've been great GAS altogether!

wolfpawnat

On the up side, there would be no problems in the Gaza strip!

ejmaztec

Hail 2 Da Thief wrote: »

It would've been great GAS altogether!

Especially at Mosney, with plenty of arrivals on punctual trains, but no departures.:(

Mike 1972

DjFlin wrote: »

I don't think he'd have done anything to the Irish. He never wanted to invade Britain, he only did because they declared war on him for invading France.

NIEDOSTATECZNY !

Beggared

A lot like Boards.ie tbh

opinion guy

Didn't he have Irish charicatured as a worker race as he also viewed the Poles.
Apparently he saw the British (and the Japanese for that matter) as a ruling type of race.

He was a bit of a stereotyper:rolleyes:

tallaghtmick

Tony Cascarino would have been well liked.

Chuck Stone

We'd just be used to make dairy products for Naziland.

Omeceron

Lidls and Aldis everywhere.

Ken.

I remember reading an autobiography years ago written by a guy who went to work in England during the war. The English tried to draft him into the army and he refused. He was brought in front of some army bigwig and was asked the question "what would the Irish if Germany invaded and won the war?" his answer is one of the best one liners i ever read

"we'd build houses for the Germans then"

mattjack

Omeceron wrote: »

Lidls and Aldis everywhere.

didnt he have a nephew or something related to him living here...he could have stayed with him till his house was sorted ..

rossie1977

there was a book written on this and a movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV5NV0LNtwY

Bertie would never have been in charge of the country.

rossie1977

rarnes1 wrote: »

Bertie would never have been in charge of the country.

yeah he would probably have some much higher ranking job within the nazi party like germanys propaganda minister or something

marcsignal

rarnes1 wrote: »

Bertie would never have been in charge of the country.

rossie1977 wrote: »

yeah he would probably have some much higher ranking job within the nazi party like germanys propaganda minister or something

if there was any chance he would be the first up the chimney i'd be all for the idea.... :pac:

Zebra3

The auld Swastika Laundry would be still going. :pac:

yogi beer

we'd all have to volunteer to go out and get some meat.

marcsignal

you might even see adolf on the luas with eva braun.

ScumLord

Didn't Hitler have a plan to turn Ireland into a holiday resort for Germans? The Irish would probably have become some sort of servant people that Nazis kept around for a laugh.

Irish Guitarist

Apparently Hitler had no time for the Irish. I don't think he hated the Irish the way he hated Poles or Russians, he just didn't view us as being all cool and Aryan. He had a preference for blonde haired, blue eyed teens so we wouldn't have really gotten his juices flowing.

I think he would have made slaves out of the population of Ireland and everyone would have died from overwork and malnourishment.

There would also be less Poles here. Or in Poland for that matter.

Berlin would now be called Germania and it would have massive structures the very same as famous landmarks from other countries, but on a much larger scale. One of Hitlers faults was that he was a big copycat with a silly moustache.

DjFlin

dsmythy wrote: »

Irish people would have been dealt with to provide an Aryan island holiday getaway.

People talk about a United Ireland. Sure it would be a United Ireland - under the Third Reich. About as much of a United Ireland to Republicans as a United Ireland within the UK. UK & Ireland as one province would have been handier to the Nazis.

Reality is of course that the Nazi Third Reich would have gone the same way as the Soviet Union eventually after much blood spilt.

Your missing my point. Hitlers Goal was to take over Eastern Europe for Lebensraum, He had no interest in anything else. It was only when the West declared war that he came this way.

Mike 1972 wrote: »

NIEDOSTATECZNY !

My mistake, sorry. Point still stands though, he didn't give a crap about Britain & Western Europe until they declared war.

Mike 1972

DjFlin wrote: »

My mistake, sorry. Point still stands though, he didn't give a crap about Britain & Western Europe until they declared war.

Belgium the Netherlands, Denmark etc didnt declare war and damn all difference it made.

ejmaztec

Ireland would also have no trouble with Israelis forging passports, mainly down to there being no Israel.

DjFlin

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Belgium the Netherlands, Denmark etc didnt declare war and damn all difference it made.

They were in the way. He needed to go through them to get to France and Britain...