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Green Bay Packers Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    He’s a class act

    It’s an excellent panel. And Neil is the best presenter in sports.



  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭BarryNumber1


    Jones has been brilliant for years… baled out Rodger’s on more than one occasion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭boccers


    Also shout out to Mike McCarthy for refusing to use Aaron Jones in his early years and leaving him as a relatively fresh 29 year old RB!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,312 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Of you told me this game would end up 48-32 beforehand I wouldn't have argued to be honest. Pack were probably likely to score, but if they performed so were they. However, Packers absolutely blew them away from the first playing went to bed and slept well at 3/4 time, game was an absolute bust. Dallas have an ability to sh1t on the eggs like no other franchise, and so they did. They completely folded under the pressure the Packers out on, and it was very enjoyable.

    Next week will be a different proposition I guess, but that's for another week. Love has matured nicely, imagine if we had moved Rodgers on a year earlier, but that's done now. Be competitive next week and see how it goes, make Purdy throw it long and don't let McCaffery beat them. Easy, eh?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭cosatron


    Positives for us,we are red hot playing good football, young fearless team with no baggage,49ers haven't played a meaningful game in 7 weeks, 49ers are under a bit of pressure to get this done as no.1 seed and previous failings.

    Negatives for us. 49ers have the better roster, very physical. Better linebackers so throwing in the middle will be hard going. Bosa is a beast. MacCaffrey is also a beast. Kittle is a match up nightmare for Joe Barry. and finally which joe Barry defence will show up.

    I just don't know how this game will pan out. 49ers should win it but you just don't know. All you need is Love. go pack go.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Dallas cowboys were favourites last week but there was still always the feeling of an upset and nothing to lose. This week there is also nothing to lose but I don't see much chance of an upset. Too many 49ers players will have to play poorly for that to happen and Shanahan is a better coach than McCarthy in my opinion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Good synopsis. I feel the same way.

    SF have an awesome battery of receivers and a stellar TE.

    I feel the game will be decided on how the Pack secondary and backers handle that lot

    I know Packers screwed up in the Dallas game by taking their foot off the pedal… MLF admitted it.

    They let Ferguson run amok down the middle…..never in doubt but I hope a lesson learned.

    They must not let that happen against the Niners..

    Whatever the actual result is I would be happy if the Pack stood up and were counted.

    Hammer the Niners QB like they did to Dak in D.. that would be a good start,



  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭boccers


    As already mentioned by a few, I was optimistic last week more than I am this week but the way the Pack are playing on offense you never know. You wouldn't bet against them running up any score at the moment so maybe they can win in a shootout because I can't see the defence stopping this 49ers team. There is a lot of pressure on the 49ers being the 1 seed and with the roster they have so maybe that comes into play but I don't think it will be as much of an issue as it was for the Cowboys.

    I haven't seen much of Purdy but apparently he has an interception or two in him if he is pressured and their O Line isn't a strength outside of Trent Williams so maybe we get a few takeaways and that's the difference but even if it is a loss it won't be like the last few crushing ones in the playoffs.

    Watson and Musgrave increasing their roles would be a help. Watson especially just takes so much attention with his speed and size that leaves space for everyone else. The status of Jaire could be crucial though. The CBs have done well in his absence but this might be a bridge too far for them. Fingers for another Joe Barry masterclass!



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Looks like Jaire is good to go.

    Packers trips to the West Coast haven’t gone well recently and apart from Kingsley Engabare team looks healthy.

    Scar tissue from previous should not affect this bunch of players…… so…,,, let’s go and wipe out the bad memories



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭jimmytwotimes 2013


    Been a very good season. No shame in going out how the Packers did. So much Year 1/2 talent and many of them look to have very good potential.

    9ers have been stacking talent for years and are in their Superbowl window as a franchise. We could have beaten them.

    Some exciting talent has emerged.

    O-line gave great protection to Love, 9ers couldn't get near him.

    Defense stepped up in the playoffs when they played aggressive and less of that soft Joe Barry stuff. Has Joe Barry saved his job over playoffs or will Matt look to change?

    Lots of offensive options- Reed, Melton, Doubs, Watson, Wicks etc (do we need to look at deep receiver as Watson is always injured?). TE's did well also in Musgrave and Kraft. Jones had a great end to season but we'll need to draft a RB2.

    Special teams did well enough in the end, dunno if we stick with Carlson though or do we continue to pray everytime he goes out there. His misses costly in the end but again another rookie you might benefit from being patient with.

    Obviously the progression of Jordan Love has been impressive from early season doubts to end of season thinking "have we a third consecutive HoF'er on our hands?"

    Enjoyed the season. Onwards and upwards.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭cosatron


    Barry for me still has to go, there is a mistake in defence with him in charge, the gap mccaffrey ran into for the game winner was huge and shouldve being filled. We need a veteran safety, Savage was poor last night. All in all, great season, love looks great, recievers and tightend look very promising.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Disappointing in the end. We had them on the ropes and I think if Carlson made that kick we would have seen out the game from there.


    Still a better season than I could have imagined. Hopefully next year's sees more progression rather than regression.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,312 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Last night went better than I thought. Offense held up pretty well against a big D, defense held up pretty well overall, but as mentioned above the soft centre against the run was exposed by McCaffery in the end - he's done it all year so not unexpected I suppose.

    With any tight game, you can point to incidents here and there and maybe make them more important than they should be, but that field goal kiss was critical in terms of how the game went. Love has been brilliant all year, but I think in the end the pressure kinda got to him in the end, his decision making went slightly awry. That's awfully harsh I know, and he'll bounce back and learn from it, but the air is very thin at this level.

    Plenty to build on - a big few weeks for the back office and who to retain and let go. Pack and the 49ers are at different stages of development do last night isn't a disaster by any means, but it's only a starting point.



  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭boccers


    There's a big list of things that went wrong in the game and still it was only a 3 point game in the end. Excellent year and really exciting going forward. Was the loss of Zach Tom a big one that isn't being talked about much? Seemed to be more pressure on Love after that. Probably need a bit of O-Line depth, possibly a center but in all the starting O-Line looks great. Walker has been sensational considering where he has come from and Tom the same on the other side. We've seen a lot of first round picks on defence but I dont think that is going to change this year unless someone falls to them. Safety, CB and linebacker all needs. The D front looks pretty good and likely just needs a bit of depth. As far as Joe Barry goes I think they still have to move on. His contract is up now apparently so it wouldn't be a case of firing him but La Fleur seems to be very hesitant to make changes in his staff.

    Probably have to stick with Carlson and add some competition in the offseason but his PAT percentage is terrible and you would have no confidence in him making any kicks which must have an effect on the team and coaches in how they approach the game. It always amazes me how little regard the general american public, pundits and even teams give to punters and especially kickers considering how important they are. Half the games this weekend had missed kicks that could have changed the outcome of the game. Maybe its because most of the public and, as far as I can tell, all of the pundits have no experience or even concept of kicking. The pressure on QBs is always discussed especially at the end of a game but some of these kickers must be some of the mentally strongest people in all of sport.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    would agree there... it would be like facing a four foot putt in the Ryder Cup to win your match after ploughing your way to the 18th.

    Anything inside the 50 is almost considered to be 'automatic' and the kicker is expected to convert.

    Zach Tom getting the concussion did indeed destabilise the O line . Would consider him a top class RT...you never hear his name mentioned which for an OL is good.

    Deffo need a number 2 RB... AJ is a good guy but not the answer.

    Whelan had a good season after a shaky start at punter.

    Next season is promising although still stinging from not getting to a winnable Championship game and a SB appearance.

    It WAS on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    And Joe Barry is gone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭cosatron


    In the space of 4 days they have already had a successful off season, Barry gone, strength and conditioning lad is gone and signed a kicker to practice squd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    Jeff Hafley is the new DC. I don't watch enough college ball to have much of an eye test on him but he seems to be distinctly not Joe Barry and that gives me hope.



  • Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭pedatron


    Same. My favourite part of his CV is that his name isn't Joe Barry! All jokes aside it appears to have been a left-of-field decision by thee Packers. They're becoming known for it! He appears to specialise in DBs and is young and hungry. Just wants to coach. He says the college game is too diluted down with other responsibilities.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Another big risk as Love was, hope it works out as well.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭boccers


    Without much knowledge of the new guys they seem to be assembling an impressive defensive staff. If it works out at all on that side of the ball you'd have to think there is a superbowl window there to open.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭cosatron


    so in the crazy nfl world, MVS has 2 super bowl rings and Devante Adams has zip. Hard to believe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭boccers


    And unless he moves again it looks like Davante will finish with 0 rings which is such a shame. He is a definite hall of fame talent but might not get there now.

    Have seen a lot of people say that Mahomes is having the career they thought Rodgers would have and its hard to disagree from a post-season point of view. The Chiefs defence this year has been lights out which Rodgers never really had so its hard to know. There's so much luck involved in these things as well. If you only took away the Brandon Bostick Seahawks drop and Bahktiari's injury I think Rodgers could have at least 3 or 4 superbowls instead of 1 and he is probably a unanimous top 3 all time QB.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Looks like Josh Jacobs In. David Bahktari, Aaron Jones and Darnell Savage out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Wouldn’t like to see Jones go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭cosatron


    sorry to see Jones and Bahktari gone, great players who embraced the packers culture and community. Bahktari going down with the knee injury cost us the superbowl. Jacobs and McKinney are great signings. go pack go



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    I think we were all expecting Bahk to go given his huge cost and minimal impact due to injuries recently, even less surprising considering how close he was to AR12, but he deserves full credit and positive memories for what he achieved with the club.

    Jones stings a bit more, I understand the logic as he approaches the RB cliff face of 30 and wasn't willing to take another hit on his salary. Don't blame the guy at all, he's taken franchise friendly hits already and is probably looking at this as his last chance for a payday. He's been the heart of the team for me for a few years now, so I wish him well.

    Talking head over heart, with Jacobs we have a comparably high quality RB for a similar cost with 3 fewer years on the clock. It's a good move.

    Xavier McKinney is an absolute big dog in a position we really needed to address, top marks from me there.

    Feeling positive about the impact. Let's see something interesting at LB, another corner and build a bit of depth on the O-Line between free agency and the draft and I'll be excited for next season.



  • Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭pedatron


    Jones signing with the Vikings!! Heartbreaking stuff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Ya that's a harsh one. I hope he is over the hill now 🤣



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  • Registered Users Posts: 856 ✭✭✭pedatron


    I know he was plagued with injury last season but by Jesus he was immense in the run-in and playoffs. He looked back to his explosive best and had real speed. Jacobs is younger but hardly a beacon of health himself! Jones a legend in my eyes and deserved better off GB. Apparently, they asked him to take a 50% pay cut on top of other team-friendly deals he had made before this. Pretty unfair if you ask me but that's the life of an RB I guess. Happy he's getting paid and hope he gets all his money. Nobody can judge him. Wanted to be a Packer but they wouldn't pay him what he's worth so he got the next best deal. Wish it was further away though!



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