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Amy Winehouse Dead (RIP thread)[Mod Note Post 1]

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    #182
    Wolfe Tone
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    Dudess wrote: »
    If an overdose killed her, it means drug abuse - specifically heroin abuse - is dangerous, not that drugs are dangerous. That's like comparing one pill now and again with heroin addiction - the two are not comparable. You might as well say alcohol is dangerous and should be avoided at all costs if an alcoholic dies from drinking.
    Sure a little bit of heroine never does any harm like!


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    #183
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 24,008 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Melion wrote: »
    Just one thing here.
    Do any males on here think she was a "sad case, troubled by demons etc etc"?

    Yes, why?:confused:


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    #184
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Bodhisopha wrote: »
    Yes. A crack and/or heroin addiction is a pretty fukkin big demon.

    That she got herself into, could have got herself away from plenty of times and never did. No sympathy deserved in this case IMO


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    #185
    Zillah
    Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    I think taking certain kinds of drugs, like crack, actually is illegal.

    Pretty sure buying or selling them is, but the actual act of consuming them isn't.

    I want to make jokes, where's the jokes thread?


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    #186
    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I just hope this makes people realise that drugs are dangerous and should be avoided at all costs.

    I keep thinking about that thread recently about who had done what drugs and the way so many seemed proud of the fact they had taken potentially lethal substances. Some said it opened their minds and the high was worth the risk etc.

    I hope this highlights how twisted that logic is.

    How is it twisted? Sometimes, you have to take a big risk for a big reward. Like risking death for a chance to experience a different perspective, and for other people to think you're cool.


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    #187
    Dangerous Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    Dudess wrote: »
    If an overdose killed her, it means drug abuse - specifically heroin abuse - is dangerous, not that drugs are dangerous. That's like comparing one pill now and again with heroin addiction - the two are not comparable. You might as well say alcohol is dangerous and should be avoided at all costs if an alcoholic dies from drinking.


    I can't quite remember who said it or in what context, but it's apt: 'it's not the drug that kills you - it's the dose.'


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    #188
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    What a bizarre question.

    It seems to be all women that are expressing sorrow at this "loss"


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    #189
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Dangerous Man wrote: »
    I think taking certain kinds of drugs, like crack, actually is illegal.
    charlemont wrote: »
    :confused:
    deisedave wrote: »
    LMFAO:D


    I just meant it doesn't make her a bad person or mean that we shouldn't feel sorry for her.


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    #190
    Dangerous Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    Melion wrote: »
    It seems to be all women that are expressing sorrow at this "loss"

    Hmm... I hadn't noticed. Good eye.


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    #191
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Dudess wrote: »
    If an overdose killed her, it means drug abuse - specifically heroin abuse - is dangerous, not that drugs are dangerous. That's like comparing one pill now and again with heroin addiction - the two are not comparable. You might as well say alcohol is dangerous and should be avoided at all costs if an alcoholic dies from drinking.

    Not to mention she was known to mix drink + drugs which is a disastrous cocktail.

    The drugs alone might not have killed her, but even small amounts of drug taking mixed with alcohol will do you damage.


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    #192
    mikom
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Sure a little bit of heroine never does any harm like!

    True.
    Just ask all the crime victims that were saved by wonder woman.

    By the way, the commitments is on TV tonight.


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    #193
    Fago!
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    Melion wrote: »
    Just one thing here.
    Do any males on here think she was a "sad case, troubled by demons etc etc"?

    Ehhhh wtf do males have to do with anything??!?!?!


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    #194
    Bodhisopha
    Registered Users Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    Melion wrote: »
    That she got herself into, could have got herself away from plenty of times and never did. No sympathy deserved in this case IMO

    She most likely got herself into them because of other demons.

    What's your stance on suicide?


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    #195
    laughter189
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    RIP Amy


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    #196
    latenia
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    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I just hope this makes people realise that drugs are dangerous and should be avoided at all costs.

    I keep thinking about that thread recently about who had done what drugs and the way so many seemed proud of the fact they had taken potentially lethal substances. Some said it opened their minds and the high was worth the risk etc.

    I hope this highlights how twisted that logic is.

    I bet you a tenner that it was prescription drugs that got her in the end.


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    #197
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Greyson Obnoxious Oaf wrote: »
    How is it twisted? Sometimes, you have to take a big risk for a big reward. Like risking death for a chance to experience a different perspective, and for other people to think you're cool.

    A 27 year old woman is dead thanks to those wonderful mind opening substances after years of them destroying her.

    That's how its twisted.


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    #198
    lightspeed
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    is there really much else to say? i also think its sad but junkies die all the time and thats how she wanted to go and if she didnt then she would have went to rehab .


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    #199
    Chuck Stone
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    deisedave wrote: »
    But in fairness people are just saying that she was not some innocent person who died, But she is a young girl who was run a stray by some bad people. She had millions of chances to sort her life out and she had the family and the money to do it. So RIP but not much sympathy can be had for her

    I agree with much of what you say Sir.

    I feel sorry for her family and friends and think they should be allowed to grieve before we disect the virtues, or lack thereof, of Amy Winehouse's lifestyle.

    It's when people start using this RIP thread to grind their moral 'drugs are bad and I'm an angel' axe that gets me really fired up.

    angryface.jpeg


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    #200
    Fago!
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    Zillah wrote: »
    Pretty sure buying or selling them is, but the actual act of consuming them isn't.

    I want to make jokes, where's the jokes thread?

    Don't, I got a warning over making jokes.


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    #201
    Wompa1
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    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    They are both tragic events in different ways and both worthy of discussion.

    No-ones forgotten Norway so there is no need for the holier-than-thou attitude.

    I didn't say anybody had forgotten. I'm saying her death does not warrant being at the top of the news on Today FM, Sky News etc.

    Also in my own opinion the events in Norway will have a much further reaching impact than the death of Amy Winehouse. It will most likely lead to significant changes in Norway and possibly the rest of Europe


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    #202
    Mr. Denton
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    Melion wrote: »
    It seems to be all women that are expressing sorrow at this "loss"

    There'd probably be males feeling that way here too if she wasn't so ugly and skanky looking.


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    #203
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Bodhisopha wrote: »
    She most likely got herself into them because of other demons.

    What's your stance on suicide?

    One of the most selfish things you can do, but again thats my opinion. And probably for another thread.


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    #204
    AudreyHepburn
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    latenia wrote: »
    I bet you a tenner that it was prescription drugs that got her in the end.

    I doubt it, she seemed to favour the not do legal variety. Or alcohol but I'd rather not speculate tbh.


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    #205
    Shreddingblood
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    Is there a jokes thread for this?


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    #206
    Daroxtar
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    Shocked yes, surprised no.
    Dead at 27? joining the club >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club


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    #207
    Dangerous Man
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    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    I just meant it doesn't make her a bad person or mean that we shouldn't feel sorry for her.

    I don't know about that, actually. I can understand why people would feel little sympathy for her given how she lived her life. Many people struggle daily with fair greater 'demons' than Winehouse but don't give in to drugs and debauchery.

    In any case, we still don't know what happened - so as I already said, it's probably best not to speculate.


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    #208
    FlawedGenius
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    She should of went to rehab.:rolleyes:


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    #209
    KeithM89_old
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    Shreddingblood wrote: »
    Is there a jokes thread for this?

    No.


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    #210
    Dudess
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    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Sure a little bit of heroine never does any harm like!
    I'd assume a little bit on its own doesn't, but its addictiveness is too intense so it's best avoided.


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    #211
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    FlawedGenius wrote: »
    She should of went to rehab.:rolleyes:



    If I hear/read that stupid line once more...........


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