Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-09-2014 01:11AM

Syferus wrote: »

McHale's tactics were exactly what Horan so successfully relied on the past four seasons. Mayo played the high press short-passing game owing much to basketball that has long been a trademark of teams McHale has been involved with. A bit of revisionism is one thing but c'mon now, Father.

I said "philosophy" not "tactics"

realweirdo · 21-09-2014 01:22AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I said "philosophy" not "tactics"

Philosophy and tactics are pretty much the same. Someone with a defensive philosophy is going to have defensive tactics. Less of your word games.

Clearly you have no issue with the farcical rubber stamping of Connelly. The rest of us do.

Who was on the selection committee? Answer us that please.

Fair and transparant my ar$e. McStay was stitched up good and proper. A dark day for mayo football.

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-09-2014 11:01AM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I think Connelly is a superior candidate to McStay. But not sure I'd be keen for a joint manager situation. Has this ever worked with success in GAA before? I remember Armagh had joint managers before Kernan but it is debatable if their tenure is considered successful. Anybody have success with it?

I don't think any high profile county senior team has had joint managers.
Tyrone had them pre Mickey Harte, i.e before they were high profile.
Leitrim recently had joint managers and the Dr. Croke's team had joint managers in 2013, and possibly before that also.

The only success by joint managers I know of was Connelly and Holmes in the 2006 U-21, but there may be others.

Peist2007 · 21-09-2014 02:29PM

realweirdo wrote: »

At least Horan tried to rise above the petty tribalism of the clubs. I hope the next manager will be able to do the same. Big players playing for clubs during the All-Ireland campaign, you can write off Mayo winning anything. You can be sure McStay would make it a demand and rightly so. Because he wants a professional approach. Which is why he probably won't get the Mayo job. The county board and the clubs want to call the shots in Mayo, one of the reasons its been 63 years since we won.

That's complete rubbish. Tell that to Kilkenny hurlers playing club matches before big games or tyrone in their pomp doing it. Your above comment shows you are probably the type who never darkens the gates of the club but follows the county team. You have it the wrong way round. Football starts and ends with club football. Putting cotton wool over the mayo team and having no club games during the championship season is completely wrong and destroys club football.

Peist2007 · 21-09-2014 02:32PM

Syferus wrote: »

McHale's tactics were exactly what Horan so successfully relied on the past four seasons. Mayo played the high press short-passing game owing much to basketball that has long been a trademark of teams McHale has been involved with. A bit of revisionism is one thing but c'mon now, Father.

You couldnt be further away if you tried. McHale is a coach with no real discernible tactics. I know because i played under him with a few teams (county and club). It wouldnt surprise me at all if a few of the senior mayo players had a word with the county board too. McHale would be a major drop in standard compared to Horan's reign.

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-09-2014 02:47PM

Peist2007 wrote: »

You couldnt be further away if you tried. McHale is a coach with no real discernible tactics. I know because i played under him with a few teams (county and club). It wouldnt surprise me at all if a few of the senior mayo players had a word with the county board too. McHale would be a major drop in standard compared to Horan's reign.

Thank you
That's the point I was trying to make re McHale.

Horan has set a certain high standard, a guy who was involved 10 years ago with Maugham is not going to maintain that standard.

blinding · 21-09-2014 03:58PM

I hope Connelly is going to be the clear and obvious manager.

You can't have joint managers ? Who has the "Final" say.

In sport sometimes the decision has to be made immediately (If not sooner:P)

Fowler87 · 21-09-2014 04:35PM

If only Kerry shooting was as bad against us...

Peist2007 · 21-09-2014 04:37PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Thank you
That's the point I was trying to make re McHale.

Horan has set a certain high standard, a guy who was involved 10 years ago with Maugham is not going to maintain that standard.

Look at the all-ireland right now. No positions, zonal assignments. Football has moved on and the guys with mayo over the past 4 years were cutting edge or so i have heard. Nothing against McHale at all.

WesternZulu · 21-09-2014 05:05PM

Well if it's any consolation we gave Kerry by far and away their toughest test in the championship.

21-09-2014 05:26PM

WesternZulu wrote: »

Well if it's any consolation we gave Kerry by far and away their toughest test in the championship.

Not much consolation, i'd say. A bit more tactical brains on the sideline and Mayo would of had 3 in a row now. Today's would of been the easiest, terrible final.

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-09-2014 05:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not much consolation, i'd say. A bit more tactical brains on the sideline and Mayo would of had 3 in a row now. Today's would of been the easiest, terrible final.

No consolation at all.
More like how the f..ck can Mayo continue to fail when less than vintage Kerry teams play poorly and still win.

21-09-2014 05:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not much consolation, i'd say. A bit more tactical brains on the sideline and Mayo would of had 3 in a row now. Today's would of been the easiest, terrible final.

:rolleyes:

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-09-2014 08:21PM

Fowler87 wrote: »

If only Kerry shooting was as bad against us...

It was in Limerick
In the first half anyway, and we still could not beat them.

KMFCross · 21-09-2014 11:38PM

Higgins, Boyler & O' Conner in sunday game team of the year

TCDStudent1 · 22-09-2014 12:00AM

KMFCross wrote: »

Higgins, Boyler & O' Conner in sunday game team of the year

Think thats fair. Maybe A. Se could have gotten in. But Flynn & Connolly were both superb this year.

irishgeo · 22-09-2014 05:41PM

is this official as paddy power still havent paid out on my bet for the 6/1 bet on noel to get the job. lets hope they dont pull a fast one over the join managers bit.

seanhynes · 22-09-2014 05:44PM

irishgeo wrote: »

is this official as paddy power still havent paid out on my bet for the 6/1 bet on noel to get the job. lets hope they dont pull a fast one over the join managers bit.

They could halve the odds I'm not sure, was Holmes in the betting too?

irishgeo · 22-09-2014 07:06PM

seanhynes wrote: »

They could halve the odds I'm not sure, was Holmes in the betting too?

Yes I think so.

Barlett · 22-09-2014 07:21PM

They haven't been 'officially' appointed yet lads, that happens this week so that's probably why

Kalyke · 23-09-2014 08:02AM

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/carlow-appoint-allen-and-omahony-to-advisory-roles-for-senior-teams-288226.html

yop · 23-09-2014 08:56AM

According to MidWest a number of executives have resigned due to the way that the hiring of Connelly and Holmes has occurred. FFS.

cocoman · 23-09-2014 09:19AM

yop wrote: »

According to MidWest a number of executives have resigned due to the way that the hiring of Connelly and Holmes has occurred. FFS.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised.
Selection process all sems to have been done very hastily.

KMFCross · 23-09-2014 09:20AM

yop wrote: »

According to MidWest a number of executives have resigned due to the way that the hiring of Connelly and Holmes has occurred. FFS.

Heard that 1 executive resigned, and others were not happy with the way the process played out.

yop · 23-09-2014 10:03AM

Really not a good start if this is the case.!!!

km79 · 23-09-2014 10:09AM

its a mess. it seems some parties were determined to rush the decision through........why? If they felt so strongly that the two
lads were the strongest candidates what difference would a week or 2 make......

yop · 23-09-2014 10:13AM

km79 wrote: »

its a mess. it seems some parties were determined to rush the decision through........why? If they felt so strongly that the two
lads were the strongest candidates what difference would a week or 2 make......

Thats what needs to be explained. I do think they were a better choice, but only on the basis of their credentials, if it comes out (IF been the word) otherwise, then its farcical stuff. Time will tell but I think if there are disgruntled members on the board then it might come out. The Mayo News carry a report about it this week it seems, haven't seen it yet.

naughto · 23-09-2014 11:29AM

Something is rotten on the county board has being for yrs.its true one man has resigned he's from the same club as the o sheas.
Interviews where only to be held this week as with it was for horan 4yrs ago,it was rushed through the new process with out all the county board members being informed.
The man that resigned is a great gaa man,he could not stand behind they way it was done.
This is going to cause holy war when all the details come out

km79 · 23-09-2014 11:33AM

naughto wrote: »

Something is rotten on the county board has being for yrs.its true one man has resigned he's from the same club as the o sheas.
Interviews where only to be held this week as with it was for horan 4yrs ago,it was rushed through the new process with out all the county board members being informed.
The man that resigned is a great gaa man,he could not stand behind they way it was done.
This is going to cause holy war when all the details come out

has the appointment actually been ratified officially yet?
no matter what way it goes now damage is being done and it does not bode well for new management

yop · 23-09-2014 11:45AM

km79 wrote: »

has the appointment actually been ratified officially yet?
no matter what way it goes now damage is being done and it does not bode well for new management

Don't think it should actually effect the management, as I THINK they would have got it anyway, but why they needed to do it this way has to be explained. They can no longer just shrug their shoulders on this and need to comment.

I hope it won't reflect on Connelly as he is a well capable guy.

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