Holland set to boot out Polish immigrants who can't find work after 3 months.

Faith+1

With Croatia joining in 2013, soon to be followed by Serbia, Bosnia and Macedonia things are only going to get worse.

If Turkey is allowed join it'll be the Cherry on the F*cked up sundae that is the EU.

Mena

So much bitching and moaning and all it shows is a complete lack of understanding of how the EU free movement rules work. I posted this back on the second page and it seems only 3 people have read it and understood it.

Faith+1

Mena wrote: »

So much bitching and moaning and all it shows is a complete lack of understanding of how the EU free movement rules work. I posted this back on the second page and it seems only 3 people have read it and understood it.

It's called having an opinion and freedom of expression. Whether you like it or not tough.

paky

Mena wrote: »

So much bitching and moaning and all it shows is a complete lack of understanding of how the EU free movement rules work. I posted this back on the second page and it seems only 3 people have read it and understood it.

why should we follow rules that dont favour us? maybe if u had a reason to bitch and moan u might understand but you dont, u probably have a job

conorhal

Mena wrote: »

So much bitching and moaning and all it shows is a complete lack of understanding of how the EU free movement rules work. I posted this back on the second page and it seems only 3 people have read it and understood it.

You forgot to mention that it only applies on an individual case by case basis though, which makes it about as workable as our messed up asylum system, queue thousands of orders to quit the state followed by thousands of appeals that take years to process and hundreds of lawyers enriched by the whole thing....

Mena

Faith+1 wrote: »

It's called having an opinion and freedom of expression. Whether you like it or not tough.

The opinions, for the most part, are based on crap information. Read my link.

paky wrote: »

why should we follow rules that dont favour us? maybe if u had a reason to bitch and moan u might understand but you dont, u probably have a job

Read the damn link! The rules DO favour Ireland...

number10a

paky wrote: »

why should we follow rules that dont favour us? maybe if u had a reason to bitch and moan u might understand but you dont, u probably have a job

Why don't they favour us?? These rules allow you to take your pick from 27 countries and decide which one you like the best and move there, no questions asked. If you can't find a job, move on to another one. Without it, you'd be stuck in Ireland jobless anyway because we'd sure as hell be in a much worse situation economically.

paky

Mena wrote: »

The opinions, for the most part, are based on crap information. Read my link.



Read the damn link! The rules DO favour Ireland...

if thats the case why hasnt ireland done anything yet?

Mena

paky wrote: »

if thats the case why hasnt ireland done anything yet?

I dunno, let me pop over to Dáil Éireann quick, I'll be back in 10 minutes after they tell me.

paky

Mena wrote: »

I dunno, let me pop over to Dáil Éireann quick, I'll be back in 10 minutes after they tell me.

ha ha hilarious did u come up with that one yourself?

Mena

paky wrote: »

ha ha hilarious did u come up with that one yourself?

No, that's courtesy of my 8 year old daughter, who understands EU Free movement rules a lot more than some people whinging in this thread.

paky

Mena wrote: »

No, that's courtesy of my 8 year old daughter, who understands EU Free movement rules a lot more than some people whinging in this thread.

''whinging''? who do u think u are? peoples circumstances are directly affected by polish migrants in ireland today. they should go the fcuk home if they cant get a job within 3 months. and you should go with them since your so fond of their presence

conorhal

Mena wrote: »

No, that's courtesy of my 8 year old daughter, who understands EU Free movement rules a lot more than some people whinging in this thread.

Perhaps you should have asked her to explain it to you further then.

As I pointed out, this rule only applies on an individual case by case basis, so you can't for example send a letter to any non national on the dole for three months ordering them to quit the country, their availability for work and their ability to find suitable work must be individually assessed and no doubt any decision subject to appeal. In other words it's about as workable as our asylum system.

softmee

paky wrote: »

''whinging''? who do u think u are? peoples circumstances are directly affected by polish migrants in ireland today. they should go the fcuk home if they cant get a job within 3 months. and you should go with them since your so fond of their presence

I really feel sorry for you. What coused your frustration, your own failures? It's scary like some people have to find somebody to hate just to feel better...

Mena

paky wrote: »

''whinging''? who do u think u are? peoples circumstances are directly affected by polish migrants in ireland today. they should go the fcuk home if they cant get a job within 3 months. and you should go with them since your so fond of their presence

Which is exactly what EU free movement law states... You're having trouble with this I see...

conorhal wrote: »

Perhaps you should have asked her to explain it to you further then.

As I pointed out, this rule only applies on an individual case by case basis, so you can't for example send a letter to any non national on the dole for three months ordering them to quit the country, their availability for work and their ability to find suitable work must be individually assessed and no doubt any decision subject to appeal. In other words it's about as workable as our asylum system.

Fair enough, but can you point out to me where it states this, as I didn't see it when reviewing the outline of the law here.

paky

softmee wrote: »

I really feel sorry for you. What coused your frustration, your own failures? It's scary like some people have to find somebody to hate and to feel better...

like you for example?

softmee

paky wrote: »

like you for example?

like me what? :rolleyes:

paky

softmee wrote: »

like me what? :rolleyes:

i see, your one of those hero liberals, ''lets let our country be overun with immigrants and we'll pay them all benefits because they have the right to be here''.

i bet you hold the opinion that immigrants do the jobs that irish people dont want?
by any chance are you in employment?

softmee

paky wrote: »

i see, your one of those hero liberals, ''lets let our country be overun with immigrants and we'll pay them all benefits because they have the right to be here''.

i bet you hold the opinion that immigrants do the jobs that irish people dont want?
by any chance are you in employment?

Did you read this thread at all? By any chance I am immigrant myself and yes I am in employment. (and you are not probably -soory, I took your job for sure)

paky

softmee wrote: »

Did you read this thread at all? By any chance I am immigrant myself and yes I am in employment.

isnt it well for ya? why dont you do the right thing and go home. do your part for a country that has been so kind to you. it would help us get out of the recession. go on do the right thing, you humanitarian you

efb

paky wrote: »

isnt it well for ya? why dont you do the right thing and go home. do your part for a country that has been so kind to you. it would help us get out of the recession. go on do the right thing, you humanitarian you

One less taxpayer thats great!

paky

efb wrote: »

One less taxpayer thats great!

one less person on the dole is how i'd see it

wolf moon

paky wrote: »

ha ha hilarious did u come up with that one yourself?

i wonder what makes people fuel this troll...

_feedback_

paky wrote: »

efb wrote: »

One less taxpayer thats great!

one less person on the dole is how i'd see it

What are you talking about paky? The poster clearly said they are in employment. They also pointed out the reasons why they choose/need to come here, and they are well within their rights to do so.

There are plenty of layabouts that sponge off our system, and they consist of many nationalities.

chessman

lecker Hendl wrote: »

let's hope they don't deport the nationals that don't speak irish. There won't be anyone left.

excellent reply,what if they sent all the irish home from the u.k. our population would double,and where do we get the jobs for them.

chessman

man.about.town wrote: »

not a bad idea at all.. all i know is the social welfare system isnt working here, if this is some way to save alot money im all for it

tell me wher the social welfare system works?????????

Crann na Beatha

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Chinasea

deisedave wrote: »

Ffs this thread is about people emigrating and claiming social welfare and not learning the local language :rolleyes: Polish people are still welcome to work in Holland also Irish people speak English and would not move to the UK for there social welfare. So how does us heading to the UK to work, where we speak the language have anything to do with some Polish people going to Holland not knowing the language or working.

FYI - Of those that are in receipt of social welfare in the UK there is a significantly disproportionate amount of 'Irish' claiming benefits, and this is not today nor yesterday - this has been going on for the last 50 years - many of those in receipt will never work, are incapable of working and will therefore never contribute.

Mike 1972

paky wrote: »

why should we follow rules that dont favour us?

You know youre right I never thought of it like that before.

Now If youll excuse me Ive a spree of killing, rape and pillage to go on......

Celly Smunt

am i the only one in Ireland enjoying seeing children of immigrants with Irish accents and Irish friends,going to school and mixing like nationality is nothing?