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Holland set to boot out Polish immigrants who can't find work after 3 months.

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  • #302
    Johro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    not yet wrote: »
    To make as much money as quickly as possible..........simple
    Simpler when you have a little of the language.


  • #303
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Johro wrote: »
    Lack of integration is key there. When immigrant people of any country create their own community and don't mix with the natives it always creates friction.
    That said, politics is definitely shifting to the right in Holland, but it does everywhere in difficult economic times.
    Some of the threads here are testament to that. People don't get so hot and bothered about immigrant workers (or welfare cheats) when times are good.

    There was plenty of threads about welfare fraud and immigrants in 07. Its why people take the piss out of there being so many!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #304
    Doc Ruby
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    Johro wrote: »
    That said, politics is definitely shifting to the right in Holland, but it does everywhere in difficult economic times.
    Not here.


  • #305
    HavingCrack
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Johro wrote: »
    Lack of integration is key there. When immigrant people of any country create their own community and don't mix with the natives it always creates friction.

    You can see why this would bother the Dutch though. These communities want all the freedoms of the Netherlands but yet not interact with the natives? You can't have it both ways. I'm actually against multi-culturalism myself so maybe I'm coming from a biased standpoint though.
    Johro wrote: »
    That said, politics is definitely shifting to the right in Holland, but it does everywhere in difficult economic times.
    Some of the threads here are testament to that. People don't get so hot and bothered about immigrant workers (or welfare cheats) when times are good.

    Politics actually can shift both ways during economic downturns, far left parties are rapidly gaining ground in Greece, Italy, Spain and even Ireland to an extent. Look at the success of Sinn Fein and the ULA in the last election. There's no comparable right-wing parties gaining ground. Fine Gael are a centre party at best with slight rightist tendencies at best.


  • #306
    Johro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    K-9 wrote: »
    There was plenty of threads about welfare fraud and immigrants in 07. Its why people take the piss out of there being so many!
    Maybe... I have definitely seen an increase in them lately.


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  • #307
    Johro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    HavingCrack wrote: »
    You can see why this would bother the Dutch though. These communities want all the freedoms of the Netherlands but yet not interact with the natives? You can't have it both ways. I'm actually against multi-culturalism myself so maybe I'm coming from a biased standpoint though.



    Politics actually can shift both ways during economic downturns, far left parties are rapidly gaining ground in Greece, Italy, Spain and even Ireland to an extent. Look at the success of Sinn Fein and the ULA in the last election. There's no comparable right-wing parties gaining ground. Fine Gael are a centre party at best with slight rightist tendencies at best.
    Can't agree more.
    As for politics shifting both ways, I think the move to the left is more of an anti-capitalist thing.


  • #308
    Johro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Not here.
    Not so much here.
    Also, maybe there aren't actually that many people shouting about 'dole scroungers' and immigrant workers, like the ones I see quite a lot on boards, maybe it's just that they shout the loudest, and public opinion isn't as clear. I think public opinion has for a large part shifted to the right. But I could be wrong, it's not like that hasn't happened before.


  • #309
    Keitho Dub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24 ✭Keitho Dub


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Holland is on a collision course with the EU over a threat to deport Poles and other eastern Europeans who cannot find work and withhold their state benefits if they don't speak Dutch

    Could Ireland do the same here if Immigrants here can't get work and fail to speak Irish. :p

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011096/Holland-set-collision-EU-plans-deport-Polish-immigrants-job.html
    that would mean


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