Half-baked Republican Presidential Fruitcakes (and fellow confections)

eire4

That debate last night was a total fraud. I watched a little bit of it but couldn't stand it. First off to call it a presidential debate is a joke. If that is what it was well then where were the other 6 condidates. As it happens the so called commission on presidential debates was set up by and is controlled by the Republican and Democratic parties and they have been in control of this fraud since 1988 when the league of women voters the previous moderators since 1976 refused to continue saying that due to the demands placed upon it by both parties to accept them would be to perpetrate a fraud on the American voter.
America plays the freedom of choice card all the time. Yet it's political system is a 2 party monopoly where the 2 parties kill off any competition and deny to the American public actual choice in who should represent them.

Hotblack Desiato

So it should be more like Ireland? In the children's referendum we will have spineless broadcasters giving the parties which hold 90+% of Dail seats half the air time, they will give the other half to a bunch of fringe lunatics who would struggle to get into three figures (100 votes) in any election, if they would even bother to stand for election.

fitz0

All I have to say about that debate is - Coal is a clean energy?

Really Mitt?

Really?

Gbear

fitz0 wrote: »

All I have to say about that debate is - Coal is a clean energy?

Really Mitt?

Really?

Not that I'm doubting your integrity or anything, but do you have the exact quote?

I just can't believe he came out and said:

"Coal is clean energy".

Jimoslimos

fitz0 wrote: »

All I have to say about that debate is - Coal is a clean energy?

Really Mitt?

Really?

Seriously? :eek:

Obama must have been piss-poor if Romney could come up with that nugget and still win the debate.

fitz0

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Seriously? :eek:

Obama must have been piss-poor if Romney could come up with that nugget and still win the debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh17jDbEaSo

Mitt Romney wrote:

And by the way, I like coal. I'm going to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal.

Jimoslimos

US Presidential debates remind me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOh-rpvjYg

mikhail

ninja900 wrote: »

So it should be more like Ireland? In the children's referendum we will have spineless broadcasters giving the parties which hold 90+% of Dail seats half the air time, they will give the other half to a bunch of fringe lunatics who would struggle to get into three figures (100 votes) in any election, if they would even bother to stand for election.

Parties comprising 90% of the Dail seats were in favour of Lisbon, a percentage not represented in the popular vote. As much as I find it irritating to listen to morons defending their position with a quarter of a bad argument, I'd rather be able to decide between two sides of an issue (however bad one of them is) than be told what to do by government.

joseph brand

Isn't 'clean coal' an oxymoron? Spoken by a mormon.

Anyway. The transcript of the debate is here.

Quote from Obama:

"You know, his running mate, Congressman Ryan, put forward a budget that reflects many of the principles that Governor Romney’s talked about. And it wasn't very detailed. This seems to be a trend."

Obama was so subtle at times, plenty of viewers missed his 'dirty digs'. I still have 'faith' in Obama. There has to be some reason he went easy on Myth Robme. (Obama never mentioned the 47% tape, Myth's tax returns, Bain or Seamus)

If only dogs could vote.

MagicMarker

I'd say this will be a laugh, it's on at midnight on Saturday and can be streamed live or be caught on demand on Sunday for just $4.95 (€3.79). Or just download it from your usual sources like I will.

http://www.therumble2012.com/

Penn

Unemployment rate is now below 8% for the first time since Obama took office 4 years ago. Bound to be a big talking point in the next few days.

Sir Pompous Righteousness

fitz0 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh17jDbEaSo

He's actually right in relation to the coal. There are clean coals (i.e., smokeless coal brands) and more sooty smokey coals brands out there. I think burning of non-smokeless coals was banned in parts of Dublin, if I'm not mistaken - that's why the term "the big smoke" isn't valid anymore as there's less smog because of the ban.

Also, there're huge coal reserves around the Appalachian Mountains on the US East Coast. Seemingly Mitt wants to exploit these more thinking that they'll help make America energy independent, which is obviously a bit naive.

mikhail

Smoke isn't all coals release. Hell, coal stations release more radioactivity into the air than fission plants.

fitz0

I may have been a bit disingenuous in my post about so-called 'Clean Coal.' I know what Mitt was referring to. It's the Clean Coal brand being touted by energy companies Stateside that relies on capturing and storing CO2. This is the so-called clean coal. It's an utterly ridiculous concept aimed at mitigation (Mittigation) of greenhouse gases released by burning coal, smokeless or regular. Just because a fuel doesn't produce visible smoke does not mean it doesn't release gases. Burning any fossil fuel releases CO2. The idea is to capture the harmful emissions and store them underground. If this seems a reasonable proposition to anyone, I'd be surprised.

The Clean Coal initiative is essentially a very good marketing and PR campaign.

Galvasean

joseph brand wrote: »

Obama was so subtle at times, plenty of viewers missed his 'dirty digs'.

America tends to not do subtle. He needs to go for the jugular next time.

joseph brand

He's scaring the children now. That's a bad Romney.

The Mad Hatter

Soft on Wall Street; tough on Sesame Street.

Precise Pangolin

magicbastarder wrote: »

to be fair, he was apparently joking, but he's just not good with joking.

Perhaps this a scarier idea?

Corkfeen

Some Funny or Die, Romney to lighten the mood .... :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQ4jMIPNo8

Permabear

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Nodin

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Seriously? :eek:

Obama must have been piss-poor if Romney could come up with that nugget and still win the debate.

...he looked knackered, if the truth be told. Not the usual poise at all. Next time they'll probably have him on an IV of coffee.

Hotblack Desiato

Nodin wrote: »

...he looked knackered, if the truth be told.

Well he does have a very demanding job

joseph brand

ninja900 wrote: »

Nodin wrote: »

...he looked knackered, if the truth be told.

Well he does have a very demanding job

Obama has to deal with Israel, Iran, Syria etc etc plus whatever issues in the US.

Romney is traveling round in the magic underwear tour bus knocking back the Kool-Aid like there's no tomorrow.

joseph brand

Jon Hubbard (R-Jonesboro), has written a veritable treasure trove of derp-nuggets.

Derp Nugget #1: Slavery was actually a blessing for black people.

“… the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.” (Pages 183-89)

Republicans trying to out-crazy each other. Have any of them claimed to be Jesus or Elvis yet?
Putting King George's madness to shame.

http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/10/06/arkansas-republican-slavery-was-a-blessing-for-black-people/

jank

joseph brand wrote: »

Jon Hubbard (R-Jonesboro), has written a veritable treasure trove of derp-nuggets.



Republicans trying to out-crazy each other. Have any of them claimed to be Jesus or Elvis yet?
Putting King George's madness to shame.

http://www.thedailydolt.com/2012/10/06/arkansas-republican-slavery-was-a-blessing-for-black-people/

Well he does word it terribly like most politicians but the main point I think he was making is this.
African Americans are THE must successful, educated and have the highest quality of life of any other black people on earth. Does that excuse slavery, no but don't forget that black slaves are part of South America and the Caribbean. So would you rather be born a black person in say Hati or Cuba or a black person in Illinois or New York?

fitz0

jank wrote: »

Well he does word it terribly like most politicians but the main point I think he was making is this.
African Americans are THE must successful, educated and have the highest quality of life of any other black people on earth. Does that excuse slavery, no but don't forget that black slaves are part of South America and the Caribbean. So would you rather be born a black person in say Hati or Cuba or a black person in Illinois or New York?

I didn't think anyone could even attempt a defence of that.

Well done jank, you win the award for Sweeping Statement of Silliness on a Sunday.

MagicMarker

jank wrote: »

Well he does word it terribly like most politicians but the main point I think he was making is this.
African Americans are THE must successful, educated and have the highest quality of life of any other black people on earth. Does that excuse slavery, no but don't forget that black slaves are part of South America and the Caribbean. So would you rather be born a black person in say Hati or Cuba or a black person in Illinois or New York?

Nodin

jank wrote: »

Well he does word it terribly like most politicians but the main point I think he was making is this.
African Americans are THE must successful, educated and have the highest quality of life of any other black people on earth. Does that excuse slavery, no but don't forget that black slaves are part of South America and the Caribbean. So would you rather be born a black person in say Hati or Cuba or a black person in Illinois or New York?

In a remarkable bit of life imitating art, you're making the same argument as Alf Garnett did, when he said slavery wasn't all bad, and where would Sammy Davis Jr be if his ancestor hadn't been dragged "kicking and screaming" up a gangplank.

sponsoredwalk

jank wrote: »

Well he does word it terribly like most politicians but the main point I think he was making is this.
African Americans are THE must successful, educated and have the highest quality of life of any other black people on earth. Does that excuse slavery, no but don't forget that black slaves are part of South America and the Caribbean. So would you rather be born a black person in say Hati or Cuba or a black person in Illinois or New York?

I'd rather be a republican black to sit atop the perch of this hierarchy of good blackness because, as we all know:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pa7aZu_ZYE

jank

Nodin wrote: »

In a remarkable bit of life imitating art, you're making the same argument as Alf Garnett did, when he said slavery wasn't all bad, and where would Sammy Davis Jr be if his ancestor hadn't been dragged "kicking and screaming" up a gangplank.

Slavery is of course terrible and wrong but I fail to see how if one points out a small positive to a historical event that they are all of a sudden "defending" slavery. We should always examine the legacy of such events, rather than ignore it.

If I were to point out that the black death brought about the rise of the European middle class and the roots of the renaissance, does that mean I am a supporter of the plague? :rolleyes:

So again, am I right or wrong to state what I said about the quality of life of black people in the US. Liberia is a great place to live I hear!