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Half-baked Republican Presidential Fruitcakes (and fellow confections)

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Turtwig


    I was going to post a video about her scientific woes in the interesting stuff thread in that epic post I made recently I decided better of it. Makes you sick to the core when you read up on her qualifications.

    However here is one, that's a little bit lighter. (Somewhat.)

    Seriously Permabear I have tonnes of republican friends in the states and I say it to them as I do you
    "Get your ****ing party sorted faster!"
    I don't think Romney is that bad, but he's a Mormon so I don't see Him getting elected lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,439 ✭✭✭ TwoShedsJackson


    More moderate Republicans must be really sick that their party is being hijacked by these nutters.

    Still, if Bachmann does run it'll be comedy gold for most of the election, Obama will annihilate her in the debates and have probably one of the easiest re-elections ever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭ mikhail


    I read about her recently: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/michele-bachmanns-holy-war-20110622?page=1

    American politics get scarier by the year. I have and will again vote for religious people, but the idea that someone like her - ignorant, hypocritical, viruliently closed-minded and hate filled - can win elections like she has is another blow to my faith in humanity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,747 ✭✭✭✭ Galvasean


    Put the religion/religiously motivated views aside for a moment and take a look at some of her other policies:
    On minimum wage:
    "we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

    Nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,023 ✭✭✭ Permabear


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 41,774 Mod ✭✭✭✭ magicbastarder


    Permabear wrote: »
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    come again?
    this is a country where people are committing crimes or joining the army to be able to gain access to basic healthcare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭ StudentDad


    I don't know what is more disturbing - the idea that either one of those two would be considered or the scary thought of either of them winning the election.

    If either of them won what would it say about the United States?
    A majority of americans endorsing their scary, blinkered and hateful notions?

    That would scare me more I think than their winning.

    SD


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Turtwig


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Not trying to sound too dismissive but that packing the tent problem sounds unfixable. Why not just join the Democrats and sort them out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,023 ✭✭✭ Permabear


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭ Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Permabear wrote: »
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    I'm assuming that its a reference to this recent case.
    (So, how's Irish healthcare doing these days? :pac:)

    Not great, but Americans wouldn't have much right to go pointing fingers.


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    Hitchens has written an article for Slate on her here, for those interested.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭ axer


    Permabear wrote: »
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    TBH its pretty good. A lot better than in the states without the massive cost.


    Michelle Bachmann is more dangerous than Palin when it comes to religion. She has no problems spouting that god told her to do this and that. Scarey when you think about it. I think she is too extreme to win the presidency though and her supporters would help her lose by making her look even more extreme. I would actually prefer if she did go up against Obama as he would have a better chance of winning imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 fontanalis


    Permabear wrote: »
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    How did he wreck healthcare? As far as I can see he only slightly stopped health insurance companies from shafting people which is what the main problem in the US is; it's good healthcare but expensive provided you don't get shafted by an insurance company. The whole so called attitude to health care where they claim to love the jebus but leave the sick to the mercy of insurance companies is baffling; but them again they are pro life and pro war.
    The dollar is actually stonger against the euro recently since three years ago when it was around 1.5.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,023 ✭✭✭ Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 Spread


    come again?
    this is a country where people are committing crimes or joining the army to be able to gain access to basic healthcare.

    WTF! Am I reading right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 fontanalis


    axer wrote: »
    TBH its pretty good. A lot better than in the states without the massive cost.


    Michelle Bachmann is more dangerous than Palin when it comes to religion. She has no problems spouting that god told her to do this and that. Scarey when you think about it. I think she is too extreme to win the presidency though and her supporters would help her lose by making her look even more extreme. I would actually prefer if she did go up against Obama as he would have a better chance of winning imo.

    I know where I'd rather get sick, provided I didn't get shafted by insurance in the US.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 AhSureTisGrand


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Sudanese doctors!? SUDANESE DOCTORS?!!! God help us all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 fontanalis


    Spread wrote: »
    WTF! Am I reading right?

    It's a massive, massive . . . massive exagerration; there was a case recently (on yahoo news) about someone going to jail to get healthcare. It's good in the US provided you are insured. If you can't afford insurance or if you get dropped/not covered by your insurance company then the costs can be crippling: it's one of the highest causes of bankruptcy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭ Nodin


    Sudanese doctors!? SUDANESE DOCTORS?!!! God help us all

    God can't help you now.


    A Goddess might. If it was in her interest to do so, of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 fontanalis


    Fans are changing wikipedia to cover a recent boo boo.
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/06/28/michelle-bachmann-supporters-alter-wikipedia-to-make-john-quincy-adams-a-founding-father/

    Religous stuff aside her reaction to China deciding to back of the US Dollar as a reserve currency should have her being mocked mercilessly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭ The Mad Hatter


    Nodin wrote: »

    Hunh, I've always seen photographs of Rand as a fat old woman. I never knew she used to be a thin young man...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,350 CMod ✭✭✭✭ coffee_cake


    Hunh, I've always seen photographs of Rand as a fat old woman. I never knew she used to be a thin young man...

    Wildly offtopic, but I found this just now :D:

    ayn-rand.gif


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Turtwig


    Permabear wrote: »
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    That doesn't make him right or wrong though. You quote one of the greatest rationalists of all time, yet you used argument ad populum; one of the most popular irrational arguments of all time.
    Clearly you aren't an elderly person lying on a trolley in a corridor while Sudanese doctors debate what to do next.

    Iirc, there is a pretty significant problem in the US with covering elderly care costs. Many are just dumped out and left at home with the parents instead of getting the proper attention they need. Clearly you aren't one of these elderly nursing home drop outs!

    See? Isn't this type of dialogue constructive?
    I've just made a very vague point and I wanna show it to the world!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 Pygmalion


    Permabear wrote: »
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    My grandfather was recently quite sick (i.e. we weren't sure if he'd live or not and he spent months in and out of hospital) and I only recall hearing good things about the doctors treating him and the service/waiting times.
    This wasn't in a private hospital either.

    Quite anecdotal, but there's at least a few more people in the country who think so, and are speaking from experience of our supposedly terrible system.

    Of course I don't know what country the doctors were from, somehow it never came up when we were discussing the work of highly trained specialists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 Spread


    come again?
    this is a country where people are committing crimes or joining the army to be able to gain access to basic healthcare.
    Spread wrote: »
    WTF! Am I reading right?

    I was paying €3,300 for myself and wife in Ireland up to last Christmas. Came over to the States, and for the equivelant of €2,450 have got the same coverage plus my meds cost €55 per month here and I was paying €130 in Ireland. I remember reading some story of a guy with awful ailments wanting to go to jail to sort out his problems. The reason it got in The Inquirer was exactly that ...... a one off.
    Check these prices out for yourself.

    fontanalis wrote: »
    How did he wreck healthcare? As far as I can see he only slightly stopped health insurance companies from shafting people which is what the main problem in the US is; it's good healthcare but expensive provided you don't get shafted by an insurance company. The whole so called attitude to health care where they claim to love the jebus but leave the sick to the mercy of insurance companies is baffling; but them again they are pro life and pro war.
    The dollar is actually stonger against the euro recently since three years ago when it was around 1.5.

    Only Republicans with vested interests and idiots that listen to Fox news (and believe it) get sucked in with this crap. Going to a doctor costs €13 approx and if you need a consultant it is free if your doc refers. In Ireland my doctor was €60 (reduced to €35 with Insurance) and the €130 for a consultant there was reduced to maybe €80 after Insurance.

    A point I forgot was that all people, insurance or not, have one free medical a year.
    fontanalis wrote: »
    It's a massive, massive . . . massive exagerration; there was a case recently (on yahoo news) about someone going to jail to get healthcare. It's good in the US provided you are insured. If you can't afford insurance or if you get dropped/not covered by your insurance company then the costs can be crippling: it's one of the highest causes of bankruptcy.

    Yes, I remember reading this on-line. One of the reasons that we retired to the US was 1) the cost of living, 2) cost of isurance, 3) the relatively weak dollar and sunny Summer weather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,383 amacachi


    Surprised no-one is talking about her wanting to have the same spirit as John Wayne from her town in Iowa. Except it turns out it was John Wayne Gacy. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭ Morbert


    Spread wrote: »
    Only Republicans with vested interests and idiots that listen to Fox news (and believe it) get sucked in with this crap. Going to a doctor costs €13 approx and if you need a consultant it is free if your doc refers. In Ireland my doctor was €60 (reduced to €35 with Insurance) and the €130 for a consultant there was reduced to maybe €80 after Insurance.

    A point I forgot was that all people, insurance or not, have one free medical a year.

    Yes, I remember reading this on-line. One of the reasons that we retired to the US was 1) the cost of living, 2) cost of isurance, 3) the relatively weak dollar and sunny Summer weather.

    We also noticed this between the States and Ireland. Ireland has a bit of catching up to do before it can start wagging any fingers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭ smokingman


    Looks like the mad loon is one step closer to the republican nomination...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14519660


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,439 ✭✭✭ TwoShedsJackson


    smokingman wrote: »
    Looks like the mad loon is one step closer to the republican nomination...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14519660

    Between this and the Newsweek cover, she takes a great picture:

    zicyk.jpg


    Rick Perry entering the race should hopefully split the conservative loon vote somewhat, and on the subject of Perry:

    Pr6iR.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,747 ✭✭✭✭ Galvasean


    smokingman wrote: »
    Looks like the mad loon is one step closer to the republican nomination...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14519660

    Last I heard she was dropping out due to her serious migrane problem. Apparently they can last a week in which she is incapable of reading... let alone running a ciountry!
    There was also that leaked tape of her saying the world was ending very soon. There goes long term policy :pac:


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