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Their was talks but nothing changed so far.I do feel for the board in this instance,it is very hard to find the perfect scenario to suit all ,with teams involved in the latter stages of intercounty as most counties proved,but Cork have a lot of intercounty players that are duel with their clubs.MaxPower131 wrote: »Did I not hear a couple of months ago that CCB were looking at changing the championship format? Looks like teams than win the first round in April/May will be waiting until August/September to play again.0 -
I dunno about this competition Too many walkovers last year. games played in **** conditions and **** time of year. Not sure about it really. Players dont have any interest in it.
They generally weed out those teams though and are not left back into the comp. Muskerry had some non contest games v John Mitchells last year from Tralee and even East Kerry were weak as well. However their semi final v Rathmore/Kilcummin was a super level of football0 -
It's a tough one to organize, but even now, you win the first round, you're nearly at a disadvantage - we played our first round last year on the 5th of May I think - next game was mid-July, that's a hilarious gap when you consider the team we played had two championship games played in the mean time, coming via the back door.thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Their was talks but nothing changed so far.I do feel for the board in this instance,it is very hard to find the perfect scenario to suit all ,with teams involved in the latter stages of intercounty as most counties proved,but Cork have a lot of intercounty players that are duel with their clubs.0 -
It's a tough one to organize, but even now, you win the first round, you're nearly at a disadvantage - we played our first round last year on the 5th of May I think - next game was mid-July, that's a hilarious gap when you consider the team we played had two championship games played in the mean time, coming via the back door.
Totally agree Glanworth had the same 8 ks without a game.I just thinks its impossible to find a perfect scenario.
What would you suggest as a player still involved?0 -
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Totally agree Glanworth had the same 8 ks without a game.I just thinks its impossible to find a perfect scenario.
What would you suggest as a player still involved?
Think there was a team that had waited just shy of 6 months to play a championship game last year not sure if it was Aghbullogue or Glanworth maybe?0 -
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Kanturk I think ,they beat youghal in may ,over their hurling team ,about 12 with them winning the county,had to wait til november to play glanmire in mallow.Think there was a team that had waited just shy of 6 months to play a championship game last year not sure if it was Aghbullogue or Glanworth maybe?
I agree its an issue that must be addressed.0 -
how do you address the problem of a dual club and dual player though. that is where a lot of the difficulty lies0
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It's very hard to figure out, for ourselves Hurling is huge and so it takes away players, they'll pick up knocks etc. - but the main thing for me was the dip in training - there wasn't as much physical work and fitness work done and it was due to not wanting to burn out the hurlers.thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Totally agree Glanworth had the same 8 ks without a game.I just thinks its impossible to find a perfect scenario.
What would you suggest as a player still involved?
That and games - where atall possible, you should be looking to play games instead of training. At the start of the year we had a number of challenges against senior teams, games that we won and were a big confidence boost for us. After our first round, we had a game against a divisional team but I think that was it. So going back for the second round, I didn't feel as fit, we weren't as sharp as we should have been and the intensity was gone.
You try to turn that on for 60minutes and it just doesn't happen. We came up against a football only team who wanted it more on the day, and who were better equipped to do so.
Personally, I've been looking at intercounty teams and wondering what they're doing in training that allows them to be at full tilt for game day, I think they're looking at the time they have between games and they're putting a plan together. This year, if we're 8 weeks between championship games then I'd have to say that you need to be doing something along the lines of:
Weeks 1-3: Fitness training, hard running, make fellas hungry for games
Weeks 3-6 - Light training sessions, challenge games
Weeks 6-8 - Full training sessions, work up hunger, rest, stretching & conditioning
^ The only thing is, with league games being scheduled last minute, lack of organization by clubs & Hurling - which can incur lack of organization between clubs, all come together to make it difficult to train how you want.
Also, I could be completely wrong with the plan above but the point remains - last year we had no plan. There could be different ways of approaching the 2nd round, but the main thing is it needs to be approached in a way that has you hitting the ground running heading into Championship.0 -
how do you address the problem of a dual club and dual player though. that is where a lot of the difficulty lies
Thats a million dollar question.Their is no easy fix.
And walsh playing dual for cork adds to kanturk problems.From the ist week in february,walsh is playing 8 weeks in a row for cork at hurling or football,more if cork to a hurling semi,or a football semi in the league alone not withstanding club games for kanturk at both codes.0 -
Losing the back door would be one way - it's fair enough to say that a team should play at least two games & a tough draw could be the end of a season for most teams, but taking Kerry for an example - no back door, and home draws - no neutral venues, championship runs much quicker - and that's without having Hurling as an excuse for not allowing a back door.how do you address the problem of a dual club and dual player though. that is where a lot of the difficulty lies0 -
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It's very hard to figure out, for ourselves Hurling is huge and so it takes away players, they'll pick up knocks etc. - but the main thing for me was the dip in training - there wasn't as much physical work and fitness work done and it was due to not wanting to burn out the hurlers.
That and games - where atall possible, you should be looking to play games instead of training. At the start of the year we had a number of challenges against senior teams, games that we won and were a big confidence boost for us. After our first round, we had a game against a divisional team but I think that was it. So going back for the second round, I didn't feel as fit, we weren't as sharp as we should have been and the intensity was gone.
You try to turn that on for 60minutes and it just doesn't happen. We came up against a football only team who wanted it more on the day, and who were better equipped to do so.
Personally, I've been looking at intercounty teams and wondering what they're doing in training that allows them to be at full tilt for game day, I think they're looking at the time they have between games and they're putting a plan together. This year, if we're 8 weeks between championship games then I'd have to say that you need to be doing something along the lines of:
Weeks 1-3: Fitness training, hard running, make fellas hungry for games
Weeks 3-6 - Light training sessions, challenge games
Weeks 6-8 - Full training sessions, work up hunger, rest, stretching & conditioning
^ The only thing is, with league games being scheduled last minute, lack of organization by clubs & Hurling - which can incur lack of organization between clubs, all come together to make it difficult to train how you want.
Also, I could be completely wrong with the plan above but the point remains - last year we had no plan. There could be different ways of approaching the 2nd round, but the main thing is it needs to be approached in a way that has you hitting the ground running heading into Championship.
I do agree that a good structure-is the key in terms of being fully prepared mentally and physically to the intensity of game,as you cant be under cooked or overtrained.
I saw Clare footballers ist two sessions under paudi kissane a few weeks ago in ul in limerick.Now they were training the sunday as well but I didnt see that.
One session was all about ,warm up,stretching,short runs,no long running.Then another part was on ,kicking and movement,everyone moving at pace.
Then they were doing a gruelling session with tackle bags still the same night .That was tough.
Another night was ,pure football,split in to defending,attacking etc.
At the start their was a serious of different ,hand eye cordination exercises going on.
If youre ever in ul,go to the north campus any eveining,and their is a lot of club.intercounty teams etc,at all levels and games going on and are great to watch.Ladies teams train their also.0 -
I won't be going to UL anytime soon I'm afraid but I'd like to watch sessions like that tbhthinkstoomuch1 wrote: »I do agree that a good structure-is the key in terms of being fully prepared mentally and physically to the intensity of game,as you cant be under cooked or overtrained.
I saw Clare footballers ist two sessions under paudi kissane a few weeks ago in ul in limerick.Now they were training the sunday as well but I didnt see that.
One session was all about ,warm up,stretching,short runs,no long running.Then another part was on ,kicking and movement,everyone moving at pace.
Then they were doing a gruelling session with tackle bags still the same night .That was tough.
Another night was ,pure football,split in to defending,attacking etc.
At the start their was a serious of different ,hand eye cordination exercises going on.
If youre ever in ul,go to the north campus any eveining,and their is a lot of club.intercounty teams etc,at all levels and games going on and are great to watch.Ladies teams train their also.
I've been saying since I was about 12 that specialisation is a theory in economics that should be at least tested in football - split the team into half back & half forward lines, full back & full forward lines, Midfielders & keepers and train them in groups. Do acceleration & agility work with the inside lines, long running & stamina work with the half lines & kickouts, fielding with keepers/midfield
Do 5-8 drills with each, bring them back in, swap around if needs be, otherwise bring it in and match players to be marking somebody from their opposing position for a match.
I think it's something that, I've never seen done by teams I've trained with, but something that I think would prove somewhat beneficial0 -
Losing the back door would be one way - it's fair enough to say that a team should play at least two games & a tough draw could be the end of a season for most teams, but taking Kerry for an example - no back door, and home draws - no neutral venues, championship runs much quicker - and that's without having Hurling as an excuse for not allowing a back door.
There's been a back door in the Kerry Championship for a few years at senior level at least.0 -
Not intermediate....although I'm gone from it a few years so I could be wrongThere's been a back door in the Kerry Championship for a few years at senior level at least.
Spa lost first round this year and fairly certain I was told at the time that was them gone.
Would I be right in saying there's a back door for Hurlin & Football throughout all levels in Cork? Because that's a huge amount of teams to coordinate and fixtures to organize.0 -
Kerry also have a very unique club structure and a large number of players are playing for two club teams. The Senior Divisional finals were only played this weekend, so their system is hardly perfect either.0
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premierstone wrote: »Kerry also have a very unique club structure and a large number of players are playing for two club teams. The Senior Divisional finals were only played this weekend, so their system is hardly perfect either.
I certainly wouldn't be using it as a model for anyone else to adopt anyway!0 -
Not intermediate....although I'm gone from it a few years so I could be wrong
Spa lost first round this year and fairly certain I was told at the time that was them gone.
Would I be right in saying there's a back door for Hurlin & Football throughout all levels in Cork? Because that's a huge amount of teams to coordinate and fixtures to organize.
In cork their is a backdoor at senior,premier intermediate and intermediate at hurling and football.0 -
Based on these figures ,the revenue lost in the hurling alone being in Div 2 could be in for a big drop next year for us.0
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Number of possible solutions.
Have one second chance after losing That is enough. Teams must lost 3 times before they are out is ridiculous.
Stop changing games for mickey mouse competitions. That is what happened with kanturk for one player over a stupid irrelevant game that is not even a sport. Played 2 times a year.
Club games be played up to 10 days before an inter county match. 2 weeks is too much.
Play more games during the week especially in summer as students won't be away in Dublin, Limerick etc.
One other solution but will never happen is a split season.
Hurling championship April, May, June. Football championship August September October. Or else vice versa. Teams would train one code right up to June and changeover over from July onwards. Surely makes it much easier for players. Leave the month of July in case games are delayed from first championship. Otherwise, July gives a whole month to get used to one code before Championship and also gives players the chance to take a break during this month.
If I was in charge no way in hell would a GAA game be played in December.
Also, if you are out of competition no training until January 1st at the earliest.
Teams training in November for championship in April. Disgraceful. If I was training and team I would start 2 months, 3 Max before championship.
6 months is some joke.0 -
what bout intercounty managers banning players from playing with the clubs at various times of the year? fixture congestion bottleneck right there0
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premierstone wrote: »Kerry also have a very unique club structure and a large number of players are playing for two club teams. The Senior Divisional finals were only played this weekend, so their system is hardly perfect either.I certainly wouldn't be using it as a model for anyone else to adopt anyway!
Absolutely, the back door is where I have my issue.
A team beaten by over 11 points in the first round got to the county final last year, which is a fairytale story for them no doubt, but it was pretty much a direct result of gaining momentum in the back door, by the time they got the the quarters they were heading into their 5th Championship match, as opposed to their opponents 3rd
Now at Senior level, the line trotted out here in nearly always "Well, playing 5 championship matches in a short space of time makes it harder to progress" - but this is club football not the AI - they're not out every week, rather every 2 weeks or so - plenty of time to recover and build momentum.
It just seems to me that you're better to lose the first round of Championship in Cork0 -
Play more games during the week especially in summer as students won't be away in Dublin, Limerick etc.
Clubs, namely rural clubs, might find that difficult if they have fellas travelling from work etc. - it'd be hard to set it up, however, if it was decided that league games would be played on Friday nights or a fixed night in particular then it would make it easier to organize/runOne other solution but will never happen is a split season.
Hurling championship April, May, June. Football championship August September October. Or else vice versa. Teams would train one code right up to June and changeover over from July onwards. Surely makes it much easier for players. Leave the month of July in case games are delayed from first championship. Otherwise, July gives a whole month to get used to one code before Championship and also gives players the chance to take a break during this month.
Never will happen, I agree. As a player I'd hate it if our season didn't begin until August - you're looking at a huge off season there. Additionally while 3 months seems like a grand amount of time, to organize league, championship etc. in that space of time would be very, very difficult, if even possible.0 -
Totally agree with your sentiments regarding the international Rules game, they had to postpone the Kanturk game for Walsh all cause the top brass made it clear it wouldnt go down well,if the clubs didnt facilate them.Number of possible solutions.
Have one second chance after losing That is enough. Teams must lost 3 times before they are out is ridiculous.
Stop changing games for mickey mouse competitions. That is what happened with kanturk for one player over a stupid irrelevant game that is not even a sport. Played 2 times a year.
Club games be played up to 10 days before an inter county match. 2 weeks is too much.
Play more games during the week especially in summer as students won't be away in Dublin, Limerick etc.
One other solution but will never happen is a split season.
Hurling championship April, May, June. Football championship August September October. Or else vice versa. Teams would train one code right up to June and changeover over from July onwards. Surely makes it much easier for players. Leave the month of July in case games are delayed from first championship. Otherwise, July gives a whdole month to get used to one code before Championship and also gives players the chance to take a break during this month.
If I was in charge no way in hell would a GAA game be played in December.
Also, if you are out of competition no training until January 1st at the earliest.
Teams training in November for championship in April. Disgraceful. If I was training and team I would start 2 months, 3 Max before championship.
6 months is some joke.
Aussie Rules is a an actual good game ,but that game is a hybrid ,Mickey Mouse game.
They think it a great game.Its a mongrel,a b****rd of a game to watch.
Walsh was haunted he avoided serious injury in the 1st test.As it turned out that was not the main reason they were here,with Sheehan signed.For all we know,others could have been approached also.
The powers to be in Cork and elsewhere give out about the most irrelavant things,yet turn a blind eye to a real concern in the game,and help to promote it here.We allow training camps for AFL trials here and make it an easy gateway to top top talents in both codes leaving the game.This weekend,O 'Riordain a dual star with Tippereary,a Mayo minor,a Tyrone star all had trials.
Its getting worse.Much wants more with the Aussies.They are now sending scouts to schools matches.Darragh Joyce,6ft2 an outstanding hurler,top of he's game brother of Kieran is only 16 and Sydney Swans want him.Their now taking talent we have not even seen ourselves.
He was seen playing football with Good Counsel in Wexford.
They have done it in New Zealand for years.Kurt Heatherely with the Hawthorns was just 14 when he was seen.They played an AFL game their ,ist time ever ,and have 3 more planned in the next four years,and are recruiting more and more teenagers.Thats grand for them,they produce so much talent in rubgy,they could field 3 different international teams and still beat most of the rest.
Counties like Cork ,such a big county even,don't have that luxury.The likes of Setanta and Sheehan come around once in a bluemoon.
Setanta could be argued ,was never ours to loose in that they left Australia and if he had not have no doubt would have played proffessionally.Sheehan was .
An u15 Aussie selection played an Irish team in UL ,two weeks ago,and went to Galway,Kerry and and Dublin.Have no doubt,they were on a scouting mission also.Tom Ryan is fast to critisize Munster Rubgy for Hurlings downfall,yet not a word about the loss of players to that game.
People can say we have a good history with AFL Bar Stynes,and Kenneally no one else really made a huge mark their.Tommy Walsh had the potential but apparently he has a very very serious injury and is out for a long time.
IRFU,two years ago ,introduced a foreign policy on the criteria for overseas players.They allowed them to come in,but in moderation to protect home grown talent.
The GAA should do something on the AFL trials here.Allow it ,but in moderation allow all these camps and touring games but also put an age restriction on it.
The Cork County Board at the weekend called for clubs to reinvent themselves and grow.Unbelievable.
The clubs ,some hanging by a thread,are getting little help from the board,1.4 m in profit,assets worth god only knows,and like Eire Og loose their greatest player to a foreign game.Nothing bout that,yet when the Aussies play a second string team,here on a holiday more than anything, we move mountains on an overly burdened club season to facilate them just so Walsh can play.0 -
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Totally agree with your sentiments regarding the international Rules game, they had to postpone the Kanturk game for Walsh all cause the top brass made it clear it wouldnt go down well,if the clubs didnt facilate them.
Aussie Rules is a an actual good game ,but that game is a hybrid ,Mickey Mouse game.
They think it a great game.Its a mongrel,a b****rd of a game to watch.
Walsh was haunted he avoided serious injury in the 1st test.As it turned out that was not the main reason they were here,with Sheehan signed.For all we know,others could have been approached also.
The powers to be in Cork and elsewhere give out about the most irrelavant things,yet turn a blind eye to a real concern in the game,and help to promote it here.We allow training camps for AFL trials here and make it an easy gateway to top top talents in both codes leaving the game.This weekend,O 'Riordain a dual star with Tippereary,a Mayo minor,a Tyrone star all had trials.
Its getting worse.Much wants more with the Aussies.They are now sending scouts to schools matches.Darragh Joyce,6ft2 an outstanding hurler,top of he's game brother of Kieran is only 16 and Sydney Swans want him.Their now taking talent we have not even seen ourselves.
He was seen playing football with Good Counsel in Wexford.
They have done it in New Zealand for years.Kurt Heatherely with the Hawthorns was just 14 when he was seen.They played an AFL game their ,ist time ever ,and have 3 more planned in the next four years,and are recruiting more and more teenagers.Thats grand for them,they produce so much talent in rubgy,they could field 3 different international teams and still beat most of the rest.
Counties like Cork ,such a big county even,don't have that luxury.The likes of Setanta and Sheehan come around once in a bluemoon.
Setanta could be argued ,was never ours to loose in that they left Australia and if he had not have no doubt would have played proffessionally.Sheehan was .
An u15 Aussie selection played an Irish team in UL ,two weeks ago,and went to Galway,Kerry and and Dublin.Have no doubt,they were on a scouting mission also.Tom Ryan is fast to critisize Munster Rubgy for Hurlings downfall,yet not a word about the loss of players to that game.
People can say we have a good history with AFL Bar Stynes,and Kenneally no one else really made a huge mark their.Tommy Walsh had the potential but apparently he has a very very serious injury and is out for a long time.
IRFU,two years ago ,introduced a foreign policy on the criteria for overseas players.They allowed them to come in,but in moderation to protect home grown talent.
The GAA should do something on the AFL trials here.Allow it ,but in moderation allow all these camps and touring games but also put an age restriction on it.
The Cork County Board at the weekend called for clubs to reinvent themselves and grow.Unbelievable.
The clubs ,some hanging by a thread,are getting little help from the board,1.4 m in profit,assets worth god only knows,and like Eire Og loose their greatest player to a foreign game.Nothing bout that,yet when the Aussies play a second string team,here on a holiday more than anything, we move mountains on an overly burdened club season to facilate them just so Walsh can play.
Lot of good points there in fairness. For any club to lose a frontline player is a huge loss (and there is plenty of that happening) but Sheehan is an enormous loss for Eire Og, nay a loss to Gaelic Football in general. Counihan made a lot of bonkers calls during his reign, but leaving him on the bench in Killarney last year was up with the worst of them.
I think the danger posed from the AFL isn't as big as you may think though..at the end of the day, a minimal number of fellas have made it or will ever make it in AFL...its a completely different game and barring the likes of Sheehan or Tommy Walsh who are exceptional talents that were tapped up since they were 17/18, unless a player leaves at 17/18 they won't make it.
There is little the GAA can do to stop the few that do leave..no more than they could do anything about Tomás O'Leary heading to rugby or Shane Long to soccer, the lure of professional sport will always be there, but the GAA will survive regardless. I think Rugby poses a far bigger threat in terms of player recruitment than AFL..there is huge work being done by Munster Rugby for example with development squads of players from non-traditional schools and areas. Very few will make it all the way to Munster senior team, but if they got into the Munster Academy structure it most certainly would lead to a decent pro career elsewhere at least..that is a huge incentive.0 -
Great news ..Seamus Harnedy should be fit for the league.He was at risk of needing an operation,that would have meant,six months out of the game like Damien Cahalane.He got the all clear.
Would have been a dissaster on top of Paudie Sullivans injury.0 -
Clyda's All Ireland semi fixed for Jan 26, 2pm in Ballinasloe.0
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ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »Lot of good points there in fairness. For any club to lose a frontline player is a huge loss (and there is plenty of that happening) but Sheehan is an enormous loss for Eire Og, nay a loss to Gaelic Football in general. Counihan made a lot of bonkers calls during his reign, but leaving him on the bench in Killarney last year was up with the worst of them.
I think the danger posed from the AFL isn't as big as you may think though..at the end of the day, a minimal number of fellas have made it or will ever make it in AFL...its a completely different game and barring the likes of Sheehan or Tommy Walsh who are exceptional talents that were tapped up since they were 17/18, unless a player leaves at 17/18 they won't make it.
There is little the GAA can do to stop the few that do leave..no more than they could do anything about Tomás O'Leary heading to rugby or Shane Long to soccer, the lure of professional sport will always be there, but the GAA will survive regardless. I think Rugby poses a far bigger threat in terms of player recruitment than AFL..there is huge work being done by Munster Rugby for example with development squads of players from non-traditional schools and areas. Very few will make it all the way to Munster senior team, but if they got into the Munster Academy structure it most certainly would lead to a decent pro career elsewhere at least..that is a huge incentive.
I do agree Munster Rubgy is a risk to GAA.
That risk has always been there with soccer and like you say will be.Their our national games,and if lads want to go proffessional,I fully support them.
The Aussie Rules is slighty for me hard to swallow,when bar two players,no one really made it ,and I get the feeling in most cases,they take our big profile players to add to the irish connection down under.Thats not to say our lads are not able for it,its just very hard to make the elite ,and throw in the influx from New Zealand and their home grown talent,i find it hard to see many making it.Ciaran Sheehan ,i really hope he makes it,but with he's injury record,in a brutally tough game will struggle ,i fear.Setanta and Tommy Walsh all had bad injuries over their and none were as suspectable as Sheehan.Yeah ,bad injuries can happen here also,but our game ,now with the black card,are not as brutal in terms of physicality as in the AFl
Most of GAA players lost to soccer and rubgy have made it compared to the AFL.
Tomas O Leary won a Heinken cup with Munster ,a Grand slam with Ireland and made the Lions tour.
Damien Delaney ,Cork minor,3 goals against Mayo in 99, had a good career ,and now plays in the premshership and capped for Ireland.
David Meyler,u21 hurler,is starting to make serious waves now,and would have made it sooner,bar two horrific cruciates.Would have been a serious player,at club and for Ireland.
Shane long a terrific hurler,apparatenly could have been the greatest ever,is a top top player in the premership,internationally ,and the first man to score a goal against England at Wembley for Ireland and also that that stood since another Tipp man (minor hurling with the dubs) Niall Quinn scored
Over 20 years ago.
Donnacha. O Callaghan,no stranger to cork hurling matches as a fan,had a gaa background.Simon Zebo played Gaelic,for the Nicks,and played at half time in the post primary against Kerry in the heavy rain ,in Killarney in 2002 drawn Munster final.
Dave O Callaghan at 6'6 was great hurler underage with youghal,now with Munster.
Another Youghal lad ,John Quill is playing with the US Eagles.He was a good underage GAA player,i think if he is the lad I am thinking of.
Zebo is A Munster,Irish and now a Lion.
Darren Sweetnaham ,a huge loss to Cork,one of the stars in u20 world cup,and magnificent against the baby blacks.
Making huge strides at Munster,but with a huge array of quality three quaters in Munster,both Irish and non Irish,he may struggle to make the main team,but not for lack of talent.
Its not just Cork.Kerry and Currow(a great parish,and lovely people,had Mick Galway ,try against England in 93,, a Lion and international,and a stalwart of Munster Rubgy and played in a Heinken cup final.
Ye now had JJ Hanarahan,nomintated junior world player of the year and a likely lion and international.
The late Mick Doyle (RIP)played GAA.
Limerick had Jermey Staunton,played for Munster(famous miracle match with Gloucester) and Ireland and Leicster and Harlepuins played minor football with limerick,with Sthephen Lucey,Brian Geary etc.
Robbie Henshaw is a Westmeath minor,Gavin Duffy played with Mayo.
Tommy Bowe played minor with monaghan.
The list is endless ,and in the future ,will have more that play soccer or rubgy.
And yes I like them to play GAA,but I am realistic to know they will go ,but as an Irishman,I can still get to see these lads playing ,and with most can go to games if I want to.
Aussie rules is different.The chance of us seeing them play is slim.And I just do not think the majority that go to the AFl ,will ever be vital,pivotal players for their sides like the lads that go to rubgy and soccer.
And the soccer and Rubgy is closer to home and to the majority of Irish people than Aussie rules is or will ever be.
We can do more to limit the risk of lads going to the AFL.The numbers are rising.
A few of Kildares u21 are gone over there.
Not just Cork ,but other counties.
Our three main games,are Rubgy,Soccer and Gaelic Games.
Aussie Rules is not.0 -
zetecescort wrote: »Clyda's All Ireland semi fixed for Jan 26, 2pm in Ballinasloe.
Thanks,thats a big ask for Clyda.It is at this stage,the lack of a marquee forward will be severely tested.Not beyond Clyda,but a huge game for them.
Mayo Club football is very strong,and they were senior for a long while,just relegated last year.0 -
Pat ryan back as Sarsfields manager.
Ronan Dwayne gone to Carrigtwohill
Eddie Murphy gone to Blarney.
Peter Smith got a new term with Midelton.0 -
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