Is an orgasm so important ???

Biscuits.

Can you explain why it's hard to believe that an 18-year-old has had a lot of sex?

Ickle Magoo

This thread is going to be locked if posters can't post in a polite and articulate manner.

If anyone has an issue with a post or poster then report it and leave it up to the mods to deal with it.

Stop with the personal insults, assumptions and general aggressiveness please.

Biscuits.

Biscuits. wrote: »

Can you explain why it's hard to believe that an 18-year-old has had a lot of sex?

Nobody said it was.

Biscuits.

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Out of interest, why does being a lesbian give you a chance to tell girls to snap out of it because they look like idiots from the outside?
And, why do they look like idiots?

Out of interest my ass. Because, have you ever gone to a different country? You don't have the same culture as them, do you? And you think a lot of it is weird, because your's isn't the same, you can objectively view it because you're not accustomed to it and you can learn a lot about your own culture and self from being exposed to different cultures.

Ickle Magoo

Biscuits. wrote: »

Can you explain why it's hard to believe that an 18-year-old has had a lot of sex?

It's not so much hard to believe as it reminds me how much I thought I knew at 18 - and how wrong I was....

Biscuits.

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

This thread is going to be locked if posters can't post in a polite and articulate manner.

If anyone has an issue with a post or poster then report it and leave it up to the mods to deal with it.

Stop with the personal insults, assumptions and general aggressiveness please.

I just hate cliqueyness and people ganging up on me, I haven't encountered this anywhere else so I don't understand why everyone's down my throat.

Raze_them_all

Biscuits. wrote: »

Can you explain why it's hard to believe that an 18-year-old has had a lot of sex?

Nobody said it was, we disagree with various statements such as that you've pretty much tried it all, we think lesbian sex is foreplay and hugging and other silly statements of that kind.

Try stepping back from the computer for a few minutes and let go of the siege mentality then come back and post and you'll see how silly over aggressive your posts are becoming

Dudess

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Mallei I have a very satisfying sex life thanks very much and I have a tendency to orgasm many times in the course of a session from various means (oral, penetration, use of toys etc)
Mind you, it might be because I'm not in a certain mindset and I just go with the flow when it comes to sex and I don't try analyse it.
Sex is not one act, it is the whole experience from teasing to foreplay to penetration and various repeats of actions before the bliss of closeness after both parties have collapsed in a heap of exhaustion.

Oh my god, this should be stickied (yes, I know - not the best expression, given the topic )!

Biscuits.

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

It's not so much hard to believe as it reminds me how much I thought I knew at 18 - and how wrong I was....

So now you're patronizing me because of my ****ing age?

Whether I change my opinion as I get older or not doesn't change the fact that I'm speaking from experience.

Dudess

A lot of people disagreeing with you doesn't mean you're being ganged up on. Do you want people to lie and pretend they agree with you?

Ickle Magoo

Biscuits. wrote: »

I just hate cliqueyness and people ganging up on me, I haven't encountered this anywhere else so I don't understand why everyone's down my throat.

Because you are being aggressive, assumptive and argumentative while at the same time to owning up to being just 18 while claiming vast experience and using hyperbole to bolster your point, I don't know where else you've been to encounter such things but it's certainly never a popular combination on any forum/group I have frequented.

The_Morrigan

Biscuits. wrote: »

Out of interest my ass. Because, have you ever gone to a different country? You don't have the same culture as them, do you? And you think a lot of it is weird, because your's isn't the same, you can objectively view it because you're not accustomed to it and you can learn a lot about your own culture and self from being exposed to different cultures.

Yes I have been to different countries and yes I have experienced other cultures, I don't think any of it is weird because it isn't the same as mine, in fact I welcome the influx of other cultures to Ireland.

I would still like an answer to my question though, I don't understand how your sexual orientation allows you tell other people off for being idiots, and what they are doing that is so idiotic in the first place.

Panthro

maybe everyone one can agree that everyones had varying amounts/types/expericences when it comes to the oul sex issue and leave it at that.
The thread, while aweful entertaining (i really should be studying!) appears to be meandering away from the OP's question

Count Duckula

I remember being told by a gay friend at university that the best lover a woman could have is another woman. She knows everything that will get her off, because it gets her off too, and she won't simply be desperate to "stick it in and get on with it".

I actually think that's probably true.

papagormo

papagormo wrote: »

maybe everyone one can agree that everyones had varying amounts/types/expericences when it comes to the oul sex issue and leave it at that.
The thread, while aweful entertaining (i really should be studying!) appears to be meandering away from the OP's question

On the contrary, papa, I think the tensions and bickering illustrate very clearly the answer to her question

Panthro

bluewolf wrote: »

On the contrary, papa, I think the tensions and bickering illustrate very clearly the answer to her question

bless me and my peace keeping mission!:pac:

Biscuits.

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Because you are being aggressive, assumptive and argumentative while at the same time to owning up to being just 18 while claiming vast experience and using hyperbole to bolster your point, I don't know where else you've been to encounter such things but it's certainly never a popular combination on any forum/group I have frequented.

I only get aggressive if people are constantly quoting me and annoying me with ****ty arguments and then everyone's thanking each other's posts and sucking each other's dicks. Otherwise I'm quiet pleasant. If you don't believe that you're being presumptuous.

If anything, you guys have shown nothing but ignorance. I don't think I've done anything wrong (yes, this can be seen as immature, but so is YOUR FACE).

Well, in the end, I'm the one having multiple orgasms so HAHAHAHAHAHA.

The_Morrigan

Dudess wrote: »

Oh my god, this should be stickied (yes, I know - not the best expression, given the topic )!

aawww shucks!

LegacyUser

Wibbs wrote: »

I'd disagree there. Well in the sense of the variation involved. Some women have an almost "male" sexual response. Wham bam thank you ma'am orgasm once and it's over. Others take much longer and then can have rolling orgasms one after the other. Some women ejaculate, most don't. Some women can cum through straight missionary sex, others no way. Some women have a very developed G Spot/vaginal sexual response, some don't. Some women like direct clitoral stimulation, some don't. And that little lot could occur in the same woman at different times depending on all sorts of factors. Men by comparison are simpler. Put it another way, when was the last time you saw an article in a blokes magazine "how to have an orgasm".

What about edging, dry orgasms, orgasm from anal/prostate stimulation etc.? Refractory periods differ between men also. For many, espexially after the first orgasm, it might be only 5/10 minutes, and then they're ready to go again, not exactly "wham bam thank you ma'am".

A basic orgasm for a man might be easier and "simpler" than a basic female orgasm. Anything beyond that isn't though. I think that culturally, there's a lot more talk about the variety of the female sexual response, and an assumption that the male sexual response is simple and without variety, which I personally think is incorrect.

Ickle Magoo

Biscuits given a weeks holiday to read up on general board posting etiquette here and tLL charter here.

polly78

Count Duckula wrote: »

I remember being told by a gay friend at university that the best lover a woman could have is another woman. She knows everything that will get her off, because it gets her off too, and she won't simply be desperate to "stick it in and get on with it".

I actually think that's probably true.

I don't!

sam34

Biscuits. wrote: »

It seems to be factual that most women don't orgasm from conventional sex and my theory is that this majority are only enjoying it because they think they're supposed to and yes, this has a huge affect on a lot of people, bigger than you'd think (it's almost like a placebo effect). I'm not offending anyone by thinking this, I'm just questioning the sincerity of the women claiming. Not all of them of course, but I am dubious of the mass amount who say "I can have great sex without an orgasm, herp, derp"

my my. most women only enjoy penetrative sex because they have been told they enjoy it?

nothing to do with the sensation of a having a cock inside them, being filled, squeezing their muscles and feeling that cock, the rate of thrusts, the depth of penetration, the angle of penetration, that spine-tingling sensation when the depth and angle combine to ensure their cervix is stimulated.... nothing at all to do with that, it;s all because theyve been told that they will enjy it so like good little girls they obey without question.

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight :rolleyes:

Raze_them_all

Count Duckula wrote: »

I remember being told by a gay friend at university that the best lover a woman could have is another woman. She knows everything that will get her off, because it gets her off too, and she won't simply be desperate to "stick it in and get on with it".

I actually think that's probably true.

Tbh I'd agree with this if the guy was inexperienced or it was their first time or two together, after that I think the guy clues into what the girl enjoys and doesn't after a few times I honestly believe it balances out

Dudess

The_Morrigan wrote: »

aawww shucks!

It's true though - the whole journey is amazing, not just the destination. And I orgasm very easily and intensely.
I do think, as you say, culturally there can be a fair bit of analysis and choreographing and comparing, rather than just relaxing and letting things happen.

immachickbtw

papagormo wrote: »

The thread, while awful entertaining (i really should be studying!) appears to be meandering away from the OP's question

+1

The_Morrigan

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Tbh I'd agree with this if the guy was inexperienced or it was their first time or two together, after that I think the guy clues into what the girl enjoys and doesn't after a few times I honestly believe it balances out

I would think that this would happen if the girl is giving the guy clear positive responses to whatever he is doing to let him know it is working, there was another thread going on in the last week about faking of orgasms which personally for me seems pointless and counter productive.

Raze_them_all

The_Morrigan wrote: »

I would think that this would happen if the girl is giving the guy clear positive responses to whatever he is doing to let him know it is working, there was another thread going on in the last week about faking of orgasms which personally for me seems pointless and counter productive.

I'd rather a girl complain all the time till I got it right than fake it.

Fake orgasms not good for the ould fragile ego compared to the real thing :pac:

Wibbs

sam34 wrote: »

it;s all because theyve been told that they will enjy it so like good little girls they obey without question.

That's the part that has me scratching and shaking my head the most actually.

The_Morrigan

sam34 wrote: »

it;s all because theyve been told that they will enjy it so like good little girls they obey without question.

Wibbs wrote: »

That's the part that has me scratching and shaking my head the most actually.

Does that actually happen? I can't recall being told anything about enjoying sex (I learnt from the nuns), it was purely procreation within marriage

sam34

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Does that actually happen? I can't recall being told anything about enjoying sex (I learnt from the nuns), it was purely procreation within marriage

another convent girl here.... i was taught that women had to "endure" it, while men "liked" it.