Would you actually prefer if the Irish language didnt exist?

RichieC

Bunch of culture traitors.

My name is URL

I don't speak it or have any interest in learning it, but I don't see why anyone would prefer that it didn't exist.

It seems a bit childish tbh.. there's lots of stuff which I'd prefer didn't exist.. stuff that actually effects how I live my life.

Irishk9

Id be happy if schools just recognised the students that saw no need for it early enough and allowed them to spend the time learning something else instead. I saw no need for it and daydreamed during the class, the method of teaching didnt help though in my decision- writing it down was no way to learn it.

COYW

My name is URL wrote: »

I don't speak it or have any interest in learning it, but I don't see why anyone would prefer that it didn't exist.

Im in the same boat. Im not interested in learning Irish but can't really see any reason in wanting rid of it. I study french at night in my never ending aim to speak it fluently. Everyone should have a 2nd language whether its irish or not.

pragmatic1

realies wrote: »

I am happy it exists, All my children went to gaelscoil & its a plesure hearing them talk it.

I think gaelscoils are the way to go as far as preserving the language. Kids pick it up easily.

aDeener

twinQuins wrote: »

I wouldn't care, either way.



And another sizable group who make idiotic generalisations that suit their agendas.

what i said wasn't a generalisation, it would have been a generalisation had i said all boards members are against all things irish. christ :rolleyes:

twinQuins

Evidently you read my post incorrectly. The generalisation is in assuming that everyone that doesn't actively support the langauge "detest everything and anything irish".

In essence it's the fallacy of the hasty generalisation.

wolfpawnat

Got my toddler the Irish talking teddy bear for xmas, he adores it! I also have his name down for only gaelscoils! I cannot speak my native tongue fluently, but my son will if I have anything to do with it!!!!

Kidchameleon

pragmatic1 wrote: »

No I wouldnt. I'm glad I have it and I'll pass it on to my kids.

What if they don't want to learn it?

Esel

Pauleta wrote: »

Would of rathered they thought me German or French in Primary school. Irish aint gonna get me paid.

Or English? :pac:

KeithAFC

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Got my toddler the Irish talking teddy bear for xmas, he adores it! I also have his name down for only gaelscoils! I cannot speak my native tongue fluently, but my son will if I have anything to do with it!!!!

You not going to let him make up his own mind if he wants to learn it?

I'd be more interested in learning about English, Maths and science to be honest.

Gunsfortoys

KeithAFC wrote: »

You not going to let him make up his own mind if he wants to learn it?

I'd be more interested in learning about English, Maths and science to be honest.

What a surprise...

KeithAFC

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

What a surprise...

More relevant.

Gunsfortoys

KeithAFC wrote: »

More relevant.

As relevant on a boards.IE forum as an ulster scot?:p

KeithAFC

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

As relevant on a boards.IE forum as an ulster scot?:p

Didn't think Ulster Scots were banned from the forum?

Seems there is the opinion from many on here they don't like the language. I wonder why that is. Could be the way nationalists try to force it upon people and don't like if people question why you have to learn it.

lmaopml

Would you prefer if the Irish language didn't exist?


No, why would you 'prefer' that? Loike....:D

Gunsfortoys

KeithAFC wrote: »

Seems there is the opinion from many on here they don't like the language. I wonder why that is. Could be the way nationalists try to force it upon people and don't like if people question why you have to learn it.

LOL

wolfpawnat

KeithAFC wrote: »

You not going to let him make up his own mind if he wants to learn it?

I'd be more interested in learning about English, Maths and science to be honest.

We like what we are given an interest in, boys like soccer because they see their dads liking soccer.

You believe what you believe because you were brought up to believe it.

And in Gaelscoils you learn all those subjects too. They have smaller class sizes and usually have more of a grá for our native tongue! I was forced to an Irish school at 17 and had to go back a year in school because of my lack of Irish. I loved it!

ShamoBuc

I love the Irish language, culture and past times. I am fluent in Irish, teach it and my kids go to a Gaelscoil. There is no better feeling than listening to your young kids speaking Irish happily and with ease, and having no hangups about it, afterall why would they!

KeithAFC

wolfpawnat wrote: »

We like what we are given an interest in, boys like soccer because they see their dads liking soccer.

You believe what you believe because you were brought up to believe it.

And in Gaelscoils you learn all those subjects too. They have smaller class sizes and usually have more of a grá for our native tongue! I was forced to an Irish school at 17 and had to go back a year in school because of my lack of Irish. I loved it!

Fair enough. I hope i ain't reading it wrong that people are being forced to learn it though.

Oranage2

Havent spoke Irish since leaving the gaeilscoil bout 6 years ago and really miss not speaking it - so no, Irish should exist and Is maith liom cáis!

Dionysus

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Got my toddler the Irish talking teddy bear for xmas, he adores it! I also have his name down for only gaelscoils! I cannot speak my native tongue fluently, but my son will if I have anything to do with it!!!!

I just started one of these courses a couple of weeks ago. You can do them online and have your queries answered very quickly or in classes, or both. It's definitely one of the best investments I've made as the grammar guides and teaching techniques are superb. Doing one of these should help you in the impending gaelscoileanna interviews. I intend on starting a Conradh na Gaeilge branch in my area as soon as I feel more confident as there's no conversation group here yet and I know there are plenty of parents in your situation here also.

starlit

No harm having Irish exist, its what makes us Irish! Its nice to speak it for fun like when out at traditional pub. Studying it is where I draw the line though depending on career. Proud to have some bit of Irish and proclaim it on St Patricks Day! Even though I'm not a fluent Irish speaker, I like the language and I think Ireland would be lost without it if not part of our hertiage and not kept alive outside of school. If forced in schools and compulsory for LC exams then changes need to be made to make learning the language more fun to learn! Irish is part of our history can't do nothing about it.

deise go deo

KeithAFC wrote: »

You not going to let him make up his own mind if he wants to learn it?

Keith, what kind of parent would they be if they let their toddler decide their life priorities? A fairly dam bad one.

Asphyxia

I love the Irish language I'm not fluent but I can have a decent conversation. It would be great if they would still teach it but I think it shouldn't be compulsory.

KeithAFC

deise go deo wrote: »

Keith, what kind of parent would they be if they let their toddler decide their life priorities? A fairly dam bad one.

Whos life priorities is it?

ShamoBuc

KeithAFC wrote: »

Whos life priorities is it?

Stay off the drugs boy.

lmaopml

snuggles285 wrote: »

No harm having Irish exist, its what makes us Irish! Its nice to speak it for fun like when out at traditional pub. Studying it is where I draw the line though depending on career. Proud to have some bit of Irish and proclaim it on St Patricks Day! Even though I'm not a fluent Irish speaker, I like the language and I think Ireland would be lost without it if not part of our hertiage and not kept alive outside of school. If forced in schools and compulsory for LC exams then changes need to be made to make learning the language more fun to learn! Irish is part of our history can't do nothing about it.

Yes we can do something 'about' it! We can get better at teaching languages in general...starting with 'English', and move on from there obviously..

..just because a student doesn't have a particular forte in languages doesn't negate that another won't! Same with 'Mathematics' and 'English' and any science subject...every student is different - we dumb down the system to suit, and we dumb down our students..

It's not the 'core' subjects that need review it's recognising and encouraging a strenght in a particular student for learning ability in any one..

A student can sit their LC these days with 'just' English/Irish and no other language - although it's not what most recommend..

The LC, these days is just the starting point...whereas the intermediate/junior cert was a generation ago - no point in going backwards...the 'bar' should not be lowered.

The 'value' of language is at the core; so too is the ability of a student to persevere and conquer a subject! It's worth it's weight..and time...honestly!

Duckworth_Luas

Is this thread about the Irish language, Travellers, the Commonwealth or the British Isles? Is there a poll? What? Deja vu? Jedward what?

deise go deo

KeithAFC wrote: »

Whos life priorities is it?

The 4 year old who you seam to expect to choose what school to go to and subjects to learn:rolleyes::rolleyes: