Would you actually prefer if the Irish language didnt exist?

Ian_K

Coming from the thread about Fine Gael's new policy, I was shocked at the anti-Gaeilge attitude of so many users

So, think carefully about it, would you actually rather the Irish language completely disappear??

orourkeda

Yes. Its a piece of sh1t

RonMexico

Yes including all the people who start threads about it in after hours. This place has gone to shit.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Answered in the other thread and before this one gets locked.

Wold you actually prefer to live in a free country?

pragmatic1

No I wouldnt. I'm glad I have it and I'll pass it on to my kids.

Ian_K

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Answered in the other thread and before this one gets locked.

Would you actually prefer to live in a free country?

This is a different question, i'm not talking about irish as a school subject, i'm addressing the language as a whole (i do happen to believe Fine Gael's plans will be the beginning of the end though)

I'm not sure what youre trying to say in the second part of this post though

SamSamSammy

Makes no difference to my life so I don't care. Can never ever recall a person using it in every day life.

Walk into the average shop in Ireland, and you do not speak Irish. Fact.

Kimono-Girl

i have irish im fluent in it, i use it, i'm teaching it to my 18 month old daughter.

so i am glad it exists and i am proud i can speak the Irish language.

ronkmonster

Ian_K wrote: »

This is a different question, i'm not talking about irish as a school subject, i'm addressing the language as a whole (i do happen to believe Fine Gael's plans will be the beginning of the end though)

I'm not sure what youre trying to say in the second part of this post though

I don't care either way and have no problem with it being taught if not forced upon people.

If it dies off because we're not forced to learn it then it's dying anyway.

bonerm

Happy it exists. Don't think it should be thought in schools tho. All you get is 5% of people speaking it and around 50%+ resenting it for life.

sollar

We should either learn it and use it everyday like the Israeli's use their language or banish it to the museum. This half arsed way is no good.

Sunnyisland

I am happy it exists, All my children went to gaelscoil & its a plesure hearing them talk it.

TanG411

Yes.

Gunsfortoys

Thread number 10 on this.

There should always be an option open to people. If they want to learn it then they should avail, if not then they can choose another language to learn.

Nadser

SamSamSammy wrote: »

Walk into the average shop in Ireland, and you do not speak Irish. Fact.

That's because it's mainly foreigners that work in them!

aDeener

Ian_K wrote: »

Coming from the thread about Fine Gael's new policy, I was shocked at the anti-Gaeilge attitude of so many users

So, think carefully about it, would you actually rather the Irish language completely disappear??

you shouldn't have been, this is boards where there is a sizeable group of users who detest everything and anything irish.

PandyAndy

It should be kept, and taught properly up to the junior cert and optional for the leaving cert. It should be taught in the same way as any other foreign language where you actually learn to have a conversation. All the poetry and essays should be then kept for the leaving cert if a student decides to take it up.

All I remember from the JC and LC Irish exams was looking for the question in the essay/poem that we were being asked about and writing down that whole sentence as the answer. I passed in ordinary level.

wurzlitzer

What about identity?
I speak very little but when I do try, I find it suits the Irish personality, and it sort of sounds when I have had conversations with people in irish that we are having a laugh.
I studied in school but now I have joined a group that speaks Irish, not perfectly I admit I have discovered that the Irish language suits us, and learning it again makes me smile wished I had gone back to relearn it sooner.

As someone who Really did not care whether it was compulsory in school. I am all for it now being compulsory. it is the way that it is being taught that has to change more talk and less emphasis on poetry literature and points

TanG411

Nadser wrote: »

That's because it's mainly foreigners that work in them!

No excuse. You rarely would have heard people speaking Irish even in the early 90s.

dlofnep

Happy to have it a part of our culture, and happy to have embarked upon a wonderful journey to learn it over the past 3 or 4 years. Happy to have met amazing people along that journey, and happy to have experienced the true gaeltacht community spirit.

nosey rosie

I wish I'd had the choice of learning it... I went to a protestant grammar school in Belfast; languages were their speciality. You could learn any language you like... ancient Greek, Italian, Portugese... you name it - but God forbid!... no Irish

dlofnep

You can learn it outside of school. Until they revise the curriculum, that's your own real chance at learning it unless you attend a gaelscoil.

Pauleta

Would of rathered they thought me German or French in Primary school. Irish aint gonna get me paid.

LighterGuy

Personally,
I think the irish language is dead.

Dead in the sense it doesnt mean much in your average persons day to day life. We dont speak it. Everything is in english. Yeah sure for heritage we have dual language signs but when you're looking up the address of something you dont go for the irish version do you?

but for heritage yeah sure keep it around. But as a day to day language its not used in modern ireland.

Snakeblood

Would t being gone also stop threads like this?

Sunnyisland

Pauleta wrote: »

Would of rather they thought me German or French in Primary school. Irish aint gonna get me paid.

The question is would you prefer if it didn't exist ?

twinQuins

I wouldn't care, either way.

aDeener wrote: »

you shouldn't have been, this is boards where there is a sizeable group of users who detest everything and anything irish.

And another sizable group who make idiotic generalisations that suit their agendas.

Ev84

Shame on all you Irish haters. Your great great great etc. grandparents would slap the s**t out of you all (if you're Irish)

* I'm a hypocrite as i know f**k all Irish myself but i am proud of our history and feel a bit guilty knowing that our language is as good as dead. Except in Gaeltacht areas of course. I hated it in school but sure who didn't...

I will learn before i die so i can understand my ancestors in heaven They don't speak English

LighterGuy

Ev84 wrote: »

... I will learn before i die so i can understand my ancestors in heaven They don't speak English

Maybe they have learned english

LynHan

Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam....we are the only country in Europe that do not use it's native language everyday. We need to address the current curriculum, and make people proud to speak Irish.

I for one am doing an Irish language course at present, and I am proud to speak it. We need to have pride in our language, otherwise it will die. I will not vote for Fine Gaels policy on this topic. The curriculum needs to change and modernised, and more emphasis be placed on the oral aspect of the language, end of story.

I know too many people who had a horrible experience learning Irish at school, we need it to be something people want to learn, but I think making it optional at LC level will kill it off in the long run, and that would be a sad day when no one spoke the language anymore. There are enough languages dying off worldwide, lets not make Irish one of them.

squeakyduck

I hated learning Irish at the best of times in school. But I would be sad to see Irish die as a language.

I'm glad to say that I know the Irish language. Everyone loves celebrating st paddys day they love being Irish, the ability to speak a little bit of gaeilge and be proud of it is along the same lines of celebrating our culture and our heritage.

RichieC

Bunch of culture traitors.

My name is URL

I don't speak it or have any interest in learning it, but I don't see why anyone would prefer that it didn't exist.

It seems a bit childish tbh.. there's lots of stuff which I'd prefer didn't exist.. stuff that actually effects how I live my life.

Irishk9

Id be happy if schools just recognised the students that saw no need for it early enough and allowed them to spend the time learning something else instead. I saw no need for it and daydreamed during the class, the method of teaching didnt help though in my decision- writing it down was no way to learn it.

COYW

My name is URL wrote: »

I don't speak it or have any interest in learning it, but I don't see why anyone would prefer that it didn't exist.

Im in the same boat. Im not interested in learning Irish but can't really see any reason in wanting rid of it. I study french at night in my never ending aim to speak it fluently. Everyone should have a 2nd language whether its irish or not.

pragmatic1

realies wrote: »

I am happy it exists, All my children went to gaelscoil & its a plesure hearing them talk it.

I think gaelscoils are the way to go as far as preserving the language. Kids pick it up easily.

aDeener

twinQuins wrote: »

I wouldn't care, either way.



And another sizable group who make idiotic generalisations that suit their agendas.

what i said wasn't a generalisation, it would have been a generalisation had i said all boards members are against all things irish. christ :rolleyes:

twinQuins

Evidently you read my post incorrectly. The generalisation is in assuming that everyone that doesn't actively support the langauge "detest everything and anything irish".

In essence it's the fallacy of the hasty generalisation.

wolfpawnat

Got my toddler the Irish talking teddy bear for xmas, he adores it! I also have his name down for only gaelscoils! I cannot speak my native tongue fluently, but my son will if I have anything to do with it!!!!

Kidchameleon

pragmatic1 wrote: »

No I wouldnt. I'm glad I have it and I'll pass it on to my kids.

What if they don't want to learn it?

Esel

Pauleta wrote: »

Would of rathered they thought me German or French in Primary school. Irish aint gonna get me paid.

Or English? :pac:

KeithAFC

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Got my toddler the Irish talking teddy bear for xmas, he adores it! I also have his name down for only gaelscoils! I cannot speak my native tongue fluently, but my son will if I have anything to do with it!!!!

You not going to let him make up his own mind if he wants to learn it?

I'd be more interested in learning about English, Maths and science to be honest.

Gunsfortoys

KeithAFC wrote: »

You not going to let him make up his own mind if he wants to learn it?

I'd be more interested in learning about English, Maths and science to be honest.

What a surprise...

KeithAFC

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

What a surprise...

More relevant.

Gunsfortoys

KeithAFC wrote: »

More relevant.

As relevant on a boards.IE forum as an ulster scot?:p

KeithAFC

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

As relevant on a boards.IE forum as an ulster scot?:p

Didn't think Ulster Scots were banned from the forum?

Seems there is the opinion from many on here they don't like the language. I wonder why that is. Could be the way nationalists try to force it upon people and don't like if people question why you have to learn it.

lmaopml

Would you prefer if the Irish language didn't exist?


No, why would you 'prefer' that? Loike....:D

Gunsfortoys

KeithAFC wrote: »

Seems there is the opinion from many on here they don't like the language. I wonder why that is. Could be the way nationalists try to force it upon people and don't like if people question why you have to learn it.

LOL

wolfpawnat

KeithAFC wrote: »

You not going to let him make up his own mind if he wants to learn it?

I'd be more interested in learning about English, Maths and science to be honest.

We like what we are given an interest in, boys like soccer because they see their dads liking soccer.

You believe what you believe because you were brought up to believe it.

And in Gaelscoils you learn all those subjects too. They have smaller class sizes and usually have more of a grá for our native tongue! I was forced to an Irish school at 17 and had to go back a year in school because of my lack of Irish. I loved it!

ShamoBuc

I love the Irish language, culture and past times. I am fluent in Irish, teach it and my kids go to a Gaelscoil. There is no better feeling than listening to your young kids speaking Irish happily and with ease, and having no hangups about it, afterall why would they!

KeithAFC

wolfpawnat wrote: »

We like what we are given an interest in, boys like soccer because they see their dads liking soccer.

You believe what you believe because you were brought up to believe it.

And in Gaelscoils you learn all those subjects too. They have smaller class sizes and usually have more of a grá for our native tongue! I was forced to an Irish school at 17 and had to go back a year in school because of my lack of Irish. I loved it!

Fair enough. I hope i ain't reading it wrong that people are being forced to learn it though.