Galway GAA discussion thread

Mr Starman

PARlance wrote: »

Too much satisfaction it seems.

I went to my first AI final in 1983, I was only a young lad in primary school.
If you followed Galway from then to 1998, you'll learn to take positives from anything. We were even down in div 3 for a spell not long before the '98 team took flight.

You can talk about systems and management til your blue in the face, if you don't have 15 very good to excellent players on the field then you can forget it.

There's a lot of talk on the terraces, this or that fella on the Galway team is class. Nobody has shown any consistency. There's potential for some players to become class with more experience but right now there's no Jarlath Fallon's, Michael Donnellon's, Padraig Joyce's, Kevin Walsh's or Gary Fahey's when they were playing at their peak so temper your expectations.

Utopia Parkway

I think the biggest problem with this current bunch of footballers apart from the fact they we have too many wildly inconsistent players is that too many of them mentally check out of games when they fall 4 or 5 points behind. The going gets tough and too many of them just don't want to know. They are OK when it's close like the Mayo games. They will battle away tooth and nail but when they fall behind and feel the game is going away from them they just don't have the testicular fortitude to keep plugging away.

They've won some tight matches (Mayo x 2 and Kildare in league final) but in 3 games in a year now they have allowed the opposition to just run away with it. It's just not good enough. How often do you see a team like Mayo just give up when things start going against them? They nearly always fight back even though they are not the team they once were.

Maybe it's a lack of experience but I often find that it's our most experienced players who are the worst performers in some of these defeats. Look at yesterday. Our two best players were probably Ian Burke and Michael Daly who have about 5 championship starts between them.

threeball

Mr Starman wrote: »

Expectations are way too high here, calm down will ye. It wasn't too long ago we were getting battered by Mayo by about 20 points.

This team have....
Beaten Mayo two years running, once in their own back yard.
Won Connacht final 2016 after 8 years.
Won division 2 and got promoted.

Next year we'll be in division 1, it'll add more steel getting games against Dublin Kerry Tyrone & Mayo. K. Walsh got us there and he deserves his chance. C'mon, Monaghan, Donegal, Kildare, we should be beating them!

The system worked to a point yesterday, we had a ton of chances but the players didn't take them and the full back line was as diabolical as usual. Some very good players there but half that team aren't of the standard required to win an All Ireland. Some other lads need a chance now.

Most fans hate Pearse, I got a parking ticket for my troubles along with everyone else for the Connacht final. Joke of a place. Renovate Tuam asap and bring Galway football back home. The state of the place is a disgrace to its history.

How are expectations too high when all people want is a decent game plan and a performance. I doubt anyone would have any issues if we had put in a performance and were beaten by Kerry. But we didn't, we were tame with no urgency and some of the most ridiculous tactics I have ever seen.
You pulled me up yesterday asking what game I was watching when i said that Kerry were there for the taking. Well they actually were there for the taking and I think everyone agrees with that one.

If you just accept the same rubbish year after year then all you'll get is rubbish. The 98 team had exceptional players but there was also a good game plan and demands for a performance from that team. In any other sport you'd be shown the door.

The only reason we have beaten Mayo over the last two years was not because we have improved, its because they have regressed. They were never supremely talented anyway but what they have is guts, determination and 3-4yrs ago they also had a plan. We have as many if not more talented players than mayo and we're getting nothing out of them.

MaroonAndGreen

We appear to have another casscass-like troll in the Mayo thread and this was my response to him, interested to see proper Galway fans views:

"They eased away against Galway largely due to the fact that this is one of the mentally weakest Galway teams of the last 2 decades.

3 times in two years Galway have fallen 5-6 behind in championship games, and on each occasion clearly gave up after 55-60 mins, they do not have the mental capacity to fight back, and die at the first sign of distress. I have never seen this Mayo team do the same and they won't. Kerry would most likely beat Mayo but they won't be pulling away at a canter as they did against Galway. Mayo might not be a fantastic team but they have character and will run any team close, something Galway lack in abundance. They have no passion and actually playing for Galway appears to not mean too much to a lot of them. You'd feel sorry for proper men like Michael Meehan having to watch Galway throw in the towel twice in 3 games."

If I was a Galway fan I'd be much more worried about the character and mentality of the squad of players rather than the management.

Well one thing that Mayo do have is a good kick out strategy.
The second best after Dublin.

The benefits of this are underestimated.

If after every time the opposition score or miss you get an attack it stops a team building momentum.
You're guaranteed a shot at goal about 80% of the time you attack so its worth a lot.

Conversely Galway were instructed to let Kerry win their own kick outs while they won the first 2/3 of Galways(think in the end Galway won only one Kerry kickout).

You can't fight back against a team who'll equal or better if you're giving them half of your kickouts and all of theirs.

Hard to question a teams mentality when you're giving up attacks as you'll always be playing catch up.

I can guarantee you Mayo would be out by now if they were just booting balls to midfield and not pressuring the opposition's kicks and letting them kick it short.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

If you don't have a basic of the modern game worked on, then you'd hardly expect anything more complex to have been done either.

The day I see Cluxton thumping aimless balls out to midfield and Dublin conceding possessions and going for a three in a row is the day I'll accept KW is doing the right thing... and you won't, cause they couldn't get away with it for that long.

Boom__Boom

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Well one thing that Mayo do have is a good kick out strategy.
The second best after Dublin.

The benefits of this are underestimated.

If after every time the opposition score or miss you get an attack it stops a team building momentum.
You're guaranteed a shot at goal about 80% of the time you attack so its worth a lot.

Conversely Galway were instructed to let Kerry win their own kick outs while they won the first 2/3 of Galways(think in the end Galway won only one Kerry kickout).

You can't fight back against a team who'll equal or better if you're giving them half of your kickouts and all of theirs.

Hard to question a teams mentality when you're giving up attacks as you'll always be playing catch up.

I can guarantee you Mayo would be out by now if they were just booting balls to midfield and not pressuring the opposition's kicks and letting them kick it short.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

If you don't have a basic of the modern game worked on, then you'd hardly expect anything more complex to have been done either.

The day I see Cluxton thumping aimless balls out to midfield and Dublin conceding possessions and going for a three in a row is the day I'll accept KW is doing the right thing... and you won't, cause they couldn't get away with it for that long.

Dont Foul had a stat about Dublin this year - in three of their games this year they took 33 short kick-outs and from those kick-outs they managed 26 shots.
Any side that doesn't push up on Dublin's kickouts is utterly mental imo.

threeball

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Dont Foul had a stat about Dublin this year - in three of their games this year they took 33 short kick-outs and from those kick-outs they managed 26 shots.
Any side that doesn't push up on Dublin's kickouts is utterly mental imo.

Any side that doesn't contest the kickouts of any side is a dysfunctional team in my opinion. The entire point of the game is to pressurise and capitalise on the mistakes that ensue.
Its actually a much greater failing that relying on a long kickout strategy as you at least compete in this case.
Standing off is a sign of fear and admitting inferiority.

Boom__Boom

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Dont Foul had a stat about Dublin this year - in three of their games this year they took 33 short kick-outs and from those kick-outs they managed 26 shots.
Any side that doesn't push up on Dublin's kickouts is utterly mental imo.

I know last year Dublin were averaging 0.5 points per own kick out won.

Naturally they have a fine pool of players but even they couldn't afford to lose 50% of theirs and 90% of the oppositions... You're talking about a swing of plus points to minus points.

And you'll get those periods where you keep kicking it out, losing it and pinned in your half.

When you at least win your kickouts that momentum breaks after every score/wide... see the Kildare game for reference.
On numerous occasions after Kildare scored, Dublin took a short, quick kick out and scored the other end 30 seconds later.

sean555

Not pushing up on kickouts is the easy way out, it demands less moral courage,
let them have their kickout and defend in numbers, that way no individual
can be singled out. I thought we were going to have a go at Kerry, a real proper
go and if we lost then so be it but we didn't have the courage to do that.
Also the fb line comes in for a lot of criticism but Kerins {along with
Ian Burke} was our best player on Sunday.

Fr Tod Umptious

threeball wrote: »

Any side that doesn't contest the kickouts of any side is a dysfunctional team in my opinion. The entire point of the game is to pressurise and capitalise on the mistakes that ensue.
Its actually a much greater failing that relying on a long kickout strategy as you at least compete in this case.
Standing off is a sign of fear and admitting inferiority.

If I were a Galway fan I'd be very annoyed with yesterday.

They had absolutely no aggression in them at all yesterday.

Kerry are a contender, but this version of them are still in a transition of sorts.

I have said on other threads that they are overrated, but Galway basically handed it to them.

Look at Mayo in the 2016 All Ireland final, a bit like Galway yesterday, big underdogs that many had given little chance.
But they got stuck in and every time a Dublin player got the ball there was at least one Mayo man on him to try and win it back, and at the end of the day they got a draw out of it.

Galway need the same attitude. No more patting yourselves on the back for having nice forwards.
Get a new manager and a handful of half backs and half forwards that will be willing to put in the hard work and fight for everything.

Fr Tod Umptious

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

If I were a Galway fan I'd be very annoyed with yesterday.

They had absolutely no aggression in them at all yesterday.

Kerry are a contender, but this version of them are still in a transition of sorts.

I have said on other threads that they are overrated, but Galway basically handed it to them.

Look at Mayo in the 2016 All Ireland final, a bit like Galway yesterday, big underdogs that many had given little chance.
But they got stuck in and every time a Dublin player got the ball there was at least one Mayo man on him to try and win it back, and at the end of the day they got a draw out of it.

Galway need the same attitude. No more patting yourselves on the back for having nice forwards.
Get a new manager and a handful of half backs and half forwards that will be willing to put in the hard work and fight for everything.

All the points you state at the start are true but with all due respect you've more than enough problems of your own to work on. We have massive problems some of which are going to be very difficult to fix there's no running away from that. Much as I want management changed I think there's also deeper issues to be resolved.

Quoting Mayo 2016 as a reference doesn't really wash. For all the talk of Mayo's fighting spirit in adversity which can't be questioned, Dublin were extremely vulnerable on day 1, it was this Mayo sides last realistic shot at an All Ireland, Mayo to be fair threw everything at it but when it came to the crunch in the last quarter with all the momentum behind them, they needed to be ruthless and the lost all composure. As usual when the chips were down they did the heroic rescue act. The fact Mayo celebrated that draw bamboozled me given they were never going to meet a Dublin side that vulnerable again.

If I was a Mayo fan I'd be frustrated to hear all this talk about what great fighting spirit they have and I'd be saying to myself that like against Derry, like against Cork, like against Roscommon they survived but they drew a greater workload in terms of extra time and replays on themsleves to reach the semi-final through pure lack of ruthlessness. This sort of going into a comfort zone after they get a lead has been symptomatic of Mayo for all these years despite the massive experience this squad had built up.

Yesterday was effectively over at half time if Mayo had kept the foot down but they did a disappearing act for 25 minutes after half time again which a side with greater experience and composure than Roscommon would have punished more ruthlessly.

MaroonAndGreen

Borders no.2 wrote: »

All the points you state at the start are true but with all due respect you've more than enough problems of your own to work on. We have massive problems some of which are going to be very difficult to fix there's no running away from that. Much as I want management changed I think there's also deeper issues to be resolved.

Quoting Mayo 2016 as a reference doesn't really wash. For all the talk of Mayo's fighting spirit in adversity which can't be questioned, Dublin were extremely vulnerable on day 1, it was this Mayo sides last realistic shot at an All Ireland, Mayo to be fair threw everything at it but when it came to the crunch in the last quarter with all the momentum behind them, they needed to be ruthless and the lost all composure. As usual when the chips were down they did the heroic rescue act. The fact Mayo celebrated that draw bamboozled me given they were never going to meet a Dublin side that vulnerable again.

If I was a Mayo fan I'd be frustrated to hear all this talk about what great fighting spirit they have and I'd be saying to myself that like against Derry, like against Cork, like against Roscommon they survived but they drew a greater workload in terms of extra time and replays on themsleves to reach the semi-final through pure lack of ruthlessness. This sort of going into a comfort zone after they get a lead has been symptomatic of Mayo for all these years despite the massive experience this squad had built up.

Yesterday was effectively over at half time if Mayo had kept the foot down but they did a disappearing act for 25 minutes after half time again which a side with greater experience and composure than Roscommon would have punished more ruthlessly.

Don't talk about the first day of the all Ireland last year as though Mayo threw it away. Absolute lazy biased anti-Mayo analysis. They had the unluckiest thing in the history of the GAA go against them, 2 own goals against maybe the greatest team ever and they managed a draw. Pure bullsh*t analysis saying the draw was celebrated too. I never seen such downbeat supporters after a draw in all my life, it would have been a comfortable win only for the own goals.

spurshero

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Borders no.2 wrote: »

All the points you state at the start are true but with all due respect you've more than enough problems of your own to work on. We have massive problems some of which are going to be very difficult to fix there's no running away from that. Much as I want management changed I think there's also deeper issues to be resolved.

Quoting Mayo 2016 as a reference doesn't really wash. For all the talk of Mayo's fighting spirit in adversity which can't be questioned, Dublin were extremely vulnerable on day 1, it was this Mayo sides last realistic shot at an All Ireland, Mayo to be fair threw everything at it but when it came to the crunch in the last quarter with all the momentum behind them, they needed to be ruthless and the lost all composure. As usual when the chips were down they did the heroic rescue act. The fact Mayo celebrated that draw bamboozled me given they were never going to meet a Dublin side that vulnerable again.

If I was a Mayo fan I'd be frustrated to hear all this talk about what great fighting spirit they have and I'd be saying to myself that like against Derry, like against Cork, like against Roscommon they survived but they drew a greater workload in terms of extra time and replays on themsleves to reach the semi-final through pure lack of ruthlessness. This sort of going into a comfort zone after they get a lead has been symptomatic of Mayo for all these years despite the massive experience this squad had built up.

Yesterday was effectively over at half time if Mayo had kept the foot down but they did a disappearing act for 25 minutes after half time again which a side with greater experience and composure than Roscommon would have punished more ruthlessly.

Don't talk about the first day of the all Ireland last year as though Mayo threw it away. Absolute lazy biased anti-Mayo analysis. They had the unluckiest thing in the history of the GAA go against them, 2 own goals against maybe the greatest team ever and they managed a draw. Pure bullsh*t analysis saying the draw was celebrated too. I never seen such downbeat supporters after a draw in all my life, it would have been a comfortable win only for the own goals.

You win all Irelands if your good enough . No more than the Galway hurlers over the last few years the reality is that mayo haven't been quite good enough to win one . Sure if they were so unlucky the first day and were the better team why didn't they go out and win the second day. The simple fact is they weren't good enough no more than our hurlers after losing 2012 replay

Fr Tod Umptious

Borders no.2 wrote: »

All the points you state at the start are true but with all due respect you've more than enough problems of your own to work on. We have massive problems some of which are going to be very difficult to fix there's no running away from that. Much as I want management changed I think there's also deeper issues to be resolved.

Quoting Mayo 2016 as a reference doesn't really wash. For all the talk of Mayo's fighting spirit in adversity which can't be questioned, Dublin were extremely vulnerable on day 1, it was this Mayo sides last realistic shot at an All Ireland, Mayo to be fair threw everything at it but when it came to the crunch in the last quarter with all the momentum behind them, they needed to be ruthless and the lost all composure. As usual when the chips were down they did the heroic rescue act. The fact Mayo celebrated that draw bamboozled me given they were never going to meet a Dublin side that vulnerable again.

If I was a Mayo fan I'd be frustrated to hear all this talk about what great fighting spirit they have and I'd be saying to myself that like against Derry, like against Cork, like against Roscommon they survived but they drew a greater workload in terms of extra time and replays on themsleves to reach the semi-final through pure lack of ruthlessness. This sort of going into a comfort zone after they get a lead has been symptomatic of Mayo for all these years despite the massive experience this squad had built up.

Yesterday was effectively over at half time if Mayo had kept the foot down but they did a disappearing act for 25 minutes after half time again which a side with greater experience and composure than Roscommon would have punished more ruthlessly.

I'm talking about Mayo's ability to get into Dublin's face on the day. I'm not taking about Mayo in 2017 or anything like that.

You know that already but you have still decided to use the example as a opportunity to have a cut at Mayo.

Galway for some baffling reason did not get in Kerry's face at all on Sunday, never even tried.

If they are to get anywhere and be taken seriously as a team then that has to change.

And I'd say the first place to change is with the manager.

threeball

sean555 wrote: »

Not pushing up on kickouts is the easy way out, it demands less moral courage,
let them have their kickout and defend in numbers, that way no individual
can be singled out. I thought we were going to have a go at Kerry, a real proper
go and if we lost then so be it but we didn't have the courage to do that.
Also the fb line comes in for a lot of criticism but Kerins {along with
Ian Burke} was our best player on Sunday.

I thought the most maligned players on our team were actually our best performers the last day. Kerin kept JOD in his pocket, Kyne was very solid, Bradshaw too, but you could see there was some team instruction to slow everything down.

Once the back lines had turned over ball it was like the game went into slow mo. The ball was walked out of defence, i didn't see one player run off the shoulder in the entire game. If some was challenged coming out they basically turned around and passed backwards. It was woeful stuff.

The KW interview was a pure head in the sand, protect your job soundbite. Couldn't fault the players, they put in a performance, couldn't ask any more, unlucky with our shooting, could have had them under pressure if this or that went in/over. Compare that to McStays interview where he told the truth about the performance and the deficiencies they had in their game.

PARlance

threeball wrote: »

The KW interview was a pure head in the sand, protect your job soundbite. Couldn't fault the players, they put in a performance, couldn't ask any more, unlucky with our shooting, could have had them under pressure if this or that went in/over. Compare that to McStays interview where he told the truth about the performance and the deficiencies they had in their game.

I wouldn't expect any different from a manager in that position in fairness. McStay had similar interviews during a bad league campaign. It was easy for him to admit deficiencies on Sunday when he's still in the Championship and got a result.

Robson99

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Don't talk about the first day of the all Ireland last year as though Mayo threw it away. Absolute lazy biased anti-Mayo analysis. They had the unluckiest thing in the history of the GAA go against them, 2 own goals against maybe the greatest team ever and they managed a draw. Pure bullsh*t analysis saying the draw was celebrated too. I never seen such downbeat supporters after a draw in all my life, it would have been a comfortable win only for the own goals.

Always the unlucky ones. The thing is Mayo never put in a 70 min performance. Heroics to get back into a game or foot of the gas when there for the taking.
Soft underbelly or over confidence ?????

PARlance

Robson99 wrote: »

Always the unlucky ones. The thing is Mayo never put in a 70 min performance. Heroics to get back into a game or foot of the gas when there for the taking.
Soft underbelly or over confidence ?????

No, just not good enough for an All Ireland. But good enough to make a string of semi's and finals. Good enough to only lose 5 of our last 19 games in CP.

I don't know the last time I witnessed a 70 min performance from any team but yes, Mayo have had prolonged bad patches all year. That said, we've had no problem turning up to Croke Park. It's a bit rich to be hearing that from Galway... you didn't have an ounce of fight or spirit the last day with the exception of a couple of players. A 7 min performance.

Robson99

PARlance wrote: »

No, just not good enough for an All Ireland. But good enough to make a string of semi's and finals. Good enough to only lose 5 of our last 19 games in CP.

I don't know the last time I witnessed a 70 min performance from any team but yes, Mayo have had prolonged bad patches all year. That said, we've had no problem turning up to Croke Park. It's a bit rich to be hearing that from Galway... you didn't have an ounce of fight or spirit the last day with the exception of a couple of players. A 7 min performance.

Very true about Galway Sunday and for a number of years. But people get tired listening to this heroic mayo stuff and consistently getting to semi finals finals etc.
The sum total is that they are a good team but will never be classed as a great one. They need to put in a 70 min performance against the better teams if they are to win an all Ireland. Same as the Galway hurlers. No point having a super semi final and only playing for 30 mins in the final.

Sweet Science

From the outside looking in ( soft spot for Galway football )

Galway have a very talented group with more coming through from a very good U21 and minor team . I dont think they had a chance to win the AI this year but most certainly could have a right rattle in the next few years.

Thats what made Sunday so bizzare. They learnt nothing from it. They should of went for it from the off and probably come up short. However they would of learnt an awful lot from it . Where they are weak and what needs to be worked on for next year and the year after when they should be contenders.

Now they go into next year still not knowing. I think the fear your management has is a big issue

Robson99

Sweet Science wrote: »

From the outside looking in ( soft spot for Galway football )

Galway have a very talented group with more coming through from a very good U21 and minor team . I dont think they had a chance to win the AI this year but most certainly could have a right rattle in the next few years.

Thats what made Sunday so bizzare. They learnt nothing from it. They should of went for it from the off and probably come up short. However they would of learnt an awful lot from it . Where they are weak and what needs to be worked on for next year and the year after when they should be contenders.

Now they go into next year still not knowing. I think the fear your management has is a big issue

Exactly. If the went for it they would have had a better idea of where they were progress wise

djPSB

When will next round of Senior Football Championship be?

MfMan

threeball wrote: »

I thought the most maligned players on our team were actually our best performers the last day. Kerin kept JOD in his pocket, Kyne was very solid, Bradshaw too, but you could see there was some team instruction to slow everything down.

Once the back lines had turned over ball it was like the game went into slow mo. The ball was walked out of defence, i didn't see one player run off the shoulder in the entire game. If some was challenged coming out they basically turned around and passed backwards. It was woeful stuff.

The KW interview was a pure head in the sand, protect your job soundbite. Couldn't fault the players, they put in a performance, couldn't ask any more, unlucky with our shooting, could have had them under pressure if this or that went in/over. Compare that to McStays interview where he told the truth about the performance and the deficiencies they had in their game.

Kerin and Bradshaw yes, thought Kyne was very poor again though, yards off his man constantly, and his sally up the field where he kicked it wide was just plain stupid.

The more I think about it, the more I think there's no point in KW etc. stepping away just yet. We're not going to win an AI within the next 2 years minimum, not a hope. Let KW stay on, blend in a few of the younger (hopefully better) players to come through. Then, in a couple of years time, bring in a new manager who might have a more solid, superior panel to work with. If KW goes now, then the likes of Conroy, Flynn, GOD, Kyne, probably Bradshaw, Sice, Hanley, Meehan (sadly), maybe FOC may have to be discarded also. it's difficult to see a new manager get any more out of these at this stage and it may mean that a largely new squad would have to be assembled, which would delay progress even longer.

Finally, no point in getting into a tit-for-tat argument with Mayo fans; we've enough to be looking out for ourselves.

spurshero

MfMan wrote: »

threeball wrote: »

I thought the most maligned players on our team were actually our best performers the last day. Kerin kept JOD in his pocket, Kyne was very solid, Bradshaw too, but you could see there was some team instruction to slow everything down.

Once the back lines had turned over ball it was like the game went into slow mo. The ball was walked out of defence, i didn't see one player run off the shoulder in the entire game. If some was challenged coming out they basically turned around and passed backwards. It was woeful stuff.

The KW interview was a pure head in the sand, protect your job soundbite. Couldn't fault the players, they put in a performance, couldn't ask any more, unlucky with our shooting, could have had them under pressure if this or that went in/over. Compare that to McStays interview where he told the truth about the performance and the deficiencies they had in their game.

Kerin and Bradshaw yes, thought Kyne was very poor again though, yards off his man constantly, and his sally up the field where he kicked it wide was just plain stupid.

The more I think about it, the more I think there's no point in KW etc. stepping away just yet. We're not going to win an AI within the next 2 years minimum, not a hope. Let KW stay on, blend in a few of the younger (hopefully better) players to come through. Then, in a couple of years time, bring in a new manager who might have a more solid, superior panel to work with. If KW goes now, then the likes of Conroy, Flynn, GOD, Kyne, probably Bradshaw, Sice, Hanley, Meehan (sadly), maybe FOC may have to be discarded also. it's difficult to see a new manager get any more out of these at this stage and it may mean that a largely new squad would have to be assembled, which would delay progress even longer.

Finally, no point in getting into a tit-for-tat argument with Mayo fans; we've enough to be looking out for ourselves.

Be great if mayo fans would stick to there own forum . On here telling us how and where we went wrong Sunday . Like we don't know ourselves ! I was neutral before Sunday but at this stage I hope ros put them out of there misery next Monday . Sure unless they win the all Ireland this year they have bigger problems than us cause Moran Higgins Boyle and probaly one or 2 more are gone and they have zilch coming through. And let's be honest the last few games has more the feel of a good team hanging on by a thread rather than the great battlers there own supporters are making them out to be

danganabu

spurshero wrote: »

Be great if mayo fans would stick to there own forum . On here telling us how and where we went wrong Sunday . Like we don't know ourselves !

Exactly, this notion of a public discussion board will never take off :rolleyes:

MfMan

spurshero wrote: »

Be great if mayo fans would stick to there own forum . On here telling us how and where we went wrong Sunday . Like we don't know ourselves ! I was neutral before Sunday but at this stage I hope ros put them out of there misery next Monday . Sure unless they win the all Ireland this year they have bigger problems than us cause Moran Higgins Boyle and probaly one or 2 more are gone and they have zilch coming through. And let's be honest the last few games has more the feel of a good team hanging on by a thread rather than the great battlers there own supporters are making them out to be

I'm may be in the minority as a Galway fan who wants to see Mayo win Sam. They have shown great resilience the past few years, even if their attack isn't always the greatest - something we could do with learning. Don't care largely who wins the replay on Monday as long as the victors beat Kerry in the semi', though I think Mayo may have the better chance.

MaroonAndGreen

Robson99 wrote: »

Very true about Galway Sunday and for a number of years. But people get tired listening to this heroic mayo stuff and consistently getting to semi finals finals etc.
The sum total is that they are a good team but will never be classed as a great one. They need to put in a 70 min performance against the better teams if they are to win an all Ireland. Same as the Galway hurlers. No point having a super semi final and only playing for 30 mins in the final.

Whatever about Mayo. Let's be honest here. There's nothing heroic about making a semi final in a 12 team sport ie hurling. It's the same as the rugby world cup, 10 countries play rugby seriously in the world and the media make heroes out of the semi finalists.

Utopia Parkway

threeball wrote: »

Once the back lines had turned over ball it was like the game went into slow mo. The ball was walked out of defence, i didn't see one player run off the shoulder in the entire game. If some was challenged coming out they basically turned around and passed backwards. It was woeful stuff.

The most frustrating thing was that at least 4 of the Galway forwards (Burke, Armstrong, Daly and Comer) had the beating of the Kerry defender marking them all game long yet we hardly ever delivered any quick ball into them to give them space to work in. As soon as we got the ball in defence someone soloed it up at snail's pace then turned and handpassed it sideways or even backwards. The next player would then fanny about and repeat this. We even kicked the ball backwards on a few occasions. It just sucked the life out of the crowd and the players themselves eventually.

Utopia Parkway

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Whatever about Mayo. Let's be honest here. There's nothing heroic about making a semi final in a 12 team sport ie hurling. It's the same as the rugby world cup, 10 countries play rugby seriously in the world and the media make heroes out of the semi finalists.

In fairness there are probably just as many genuinely good sides in hurling as there are in football. There are a lot of bad or mediocre football teams out there.

Robson99

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Whatever about Mayo. Let's be honest here. There's nothing heroic about making a semi final in a 12 team sport ie hurling. It's the same as the rugby world cup, 10 countries play rugby seriously in the world and the media make heroes out of the semi finalists.

Stop will ya. There is more teams capable of winning the Hurling the last few years than there is the football. At least 5 in hurling. There is two in football and two more a bit behind them with the rest miles behind. Hurling is in a far better place than football at the moment