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Egyptian Uprising
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Brown Bomber wrote: »Thanks for keeping me informed on this uprising with all those links. So many hidden forces at play during revolutions I have no idea what to make of this.
Yeah, I'm not sure myself, I could start quoting Bible Prophecy and all that, but really I don't know, nobody does, how this will all end up.
Some more quotes on the subject:
Blair warns against Brotherhood's rise in Egypt
Former British prime minister Tony Blair has voiced his support for embattled Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak.
Mr Blair, now a Middle East peace envoy, says he fears immediate elections could bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/07/3131812.htm?section=world
^^Middle East peace envoy^^
Egypt has changed forever: Obama
In an interview with Fox News Sunday, Obama stopped short of saying when - or if - Mubarak would step down, but said he couldn't predict what the next step was.
Obama said that the US has told Mubarak publicly and privately for many years that he cannot continue to suppress the Egyptian people.(While supplying them with state of the art weaponry
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http://www.sify.com/news/egypt-has-changed-forever-obama-news-international-lchj0djbcef.html
Will Egypt unrest affect Israel's electric supply?
"We are taking organized administrative measures to prepare for that possibility. The most problematic period will be the peak-demand months of July and August. One option, of course, is to resume the full use of diesel fuel at our plants. Another option - a stopgap until we become an oil emirate - is a facility to supply liquid gas. Gas cannot be moved from every place, so the solution is to convert it into liquid, to transport it to another country and then convert it back to a gas. It could be a complex facility that takes years to build, but it is possible to set up a facility on a ship which requires less time to organize and could provide about 15 percent of Israel natural gas needs."
(And also make one hell of a target, "Slave Driver, the table is turned, Catch A Fire, your gonna get burned")
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/will-egypt-unrest-affect-israel-s-electric-supply-1.341721
Revealed: US envoy's business link to Egypt
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Obama scrambles to limit damage after Frank Wisner makes robust call for Mubarak to remain in place as leader.
By Robert Fisk in Cairo
So why on earth was he sent to talk to Mubarak, who is in effect a client of Mr Wisner's current employers?
Patton Boggs states that its attorneys "represent some of the leading Egyptian commercial families and their companies" and "have been involved in oil and gas and telecommunications infrastructure projects on their behalf". One of its partners served as chairman of the US-Egyptian Chamber of Commerce promoting foreign investment in the Egyptian economy. The company has also managed contractor disputes in military-sales agreements arising under the US Foreign Military Sales Act. Washington gives around $1.3bn (£800m) a year to the Egyptian military
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/revealed-us-envoys-business-link-to-egypt-2206329.html
Egyptian opposition critical of Western support for new talks
Egypt's opposition has criticised the West after it backed new talks between Hosni Mubarak's government and protest leaders but drew back from calls for the president to go.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8307205/Egyptian-opposition-critical-of-Western-support-for-new-talks.html
Some news that was swallowed up by the current events in Egypt.
Israel intelligence on alert over Lebanon
Media reports are indicating that Israel's intelligence services have been put on high alert following tense political developments in Lebanon, though sources believe Hezbollah is handling the crisis fittingly.
There is a great deal of disappointment in official Israeli circles after the "Hezbollah candidate's" success – referring to Najib Mikati who was appointed premier Tuesday by President Michel Suleiman.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/2/8/4859/World/Region/Israel-intelligence-on-alert-over-Lebanon.aspx
Israelis gird for violent spillover of Lebanon crisis
In Israel, politicians warned that the new Hezbollah government took it farther into the arms of extremist Islamic regimes, and away from its Western alliances.
Meanwhile, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, faced with the potential shift of Lebanon's fragile power balance away from the U.S. and toward Iran-backed Hezbollah, suggested U.S. aid and support could be at risk.
"A Hezbollah-controlled government would clearly have an impact on our bilateral relationship with Lebanon," Clinton said in Washington. The U.S. government considers Hezbollah a terrorist organization.
Along Israel's northern border, intelligence officials have increased their surveillance of Lebanon.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/25/2033869/israelis-gird-for-violent-spillover.html
Hezbollah-backed Najib Mikati appointed Lebanon's PM designate
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-01/25/c_13706780.htm
Muslim Brotherhood seeks end to Israel treaty
A political leader of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood Thursday called on any government that replaces Hosni Mubarak’s regime to withdraw from the 32-year-old peace treaty with Israel.
“After President Mubarak steps down and a provisional government is formed, there is a need to dissolve the peace treaty with Israel,” Rashad al-Bayoumi, a deputy leader of the outlawed movement, said on Japan’s NHTV.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/3/muslim-brotherhood-seeks-end-to-israel-treaty/
(I haven't been able to find a video to support this)
Turmoil Heartens U.S. Foes
DAMASCUS—The so-called resistance bloc of nations and Islamist movements, led by Iran and Syria, believes it is increasingly on the ascent as unrest seethes in the Middle East.
United in its opposition to the U.S. and Israel, this coalition is seeing many of its chief regional adversaries weakened—particularly Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah II.
Tehran and Damascus have also been buoyed by last month's toppling of Beirut's pro-Western government at the hands of Hezbollah, the Lebanese political party and militia the two countries fund and arm.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704376104576122520640212898.html
Israel says no to more Egyptian troops in Sinai
Senior army official: We don’t want it to seem as if the peace treaty is meaningless, particularly when there could be a regime change in Cairo; IDF officials fear new Egypt gov't may break 1979 agreements.
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=207115
Man!, times change in the blink of an eye, but I feel this very possibly could be the BIG one, suddenly "Democracy" isn't all that good an idea in some parts of the world, "The Only Democracy" in the middle east is beginning to shudder at the thought of "Democracy" on all fronts.
Seriously, I said it last night and I'll say it again, "The Samson Option" may soon be their only option, and for those who don't know what it is have a read of this.
The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well. Israel refuses to admit it has nuclear weapons or to describe how it would use them, an official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also known as "nuclear opacity." This has made it difficult for anyone outside the Israeli government to definitively describe its true nuclear policy, while still allowing Israel to influence the perceptions, strategies and actions of other governments.
As early as 1976, the CIA believed that Israel possessed 10 to 20 nuclear weapons. By 2002 it was estimated that the number had increased to between 75 and 200 thermonuclear weapons, each in the multiple-megaton range. Kenneth S. Brower has estimated as many as 400 nuclear weapons. These can be launched from land, sea and air. This gives Israel a second strike option even if much of the country is destroyed.
They named it after the Biblical figure Samson, who pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself and thousands of Philistines who had gathered to see him humiliated. They contrasted it with ancient siege of Masada where 936 Jewish Sicarii greatly outnumbered by Roman legions committed mass suicide rather than be defeated and enslaved by the Romans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
Should things take a turn for the worse/better?, the new Egyptian Govt would find itself in control of some serious machines of death and a bigger military than Israel.
Egyptian Armed Forces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Armed_Forces
Israel Defense Forces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces
Egypt purchased $6.5 billion worth of arms between 2001 and 2004. By comparison, Israel spent $4.4 billion. Egypt now has some of the most sophisticated U.S.-made weapons, including Abrams tanks, F-16 fighter planes, and Apache attack helicopters.
It's also not too far fetched to see Israel recieve some of it's own medicine should a regional war break out, Israel would find itself with sea to the west, enemies to the north, south and east and "southwest", it could quite possibly find itself "on a diet", starved, the only route in would be by sea almost, if even that!.
Israel has sown it's own seeds of destruction, for too long it has been allowed bolden itself.
If all this goes the way I see it going I feel sorry for the "ordinary" men, women and children on "all" sides who will be caught up in all this.
Israel should have copped long ago that you simply cannot occupy anothers land, treat them like dirt, trample on their every right and expect this status quo to continue indefinately, poor deluded bastards.0 -
And the beat goes on..........................
What exactly does the U.S. want from Egypt?
Initially, the White House stressed that Mubarak must leave immediately, but Egypt, they soon realized, is not Tunisia.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/what-exactly-does-the-u-s-want-from-egypt-1.341903
Islamic party eyes comeback in Egypt
"Initially, it was a battle between rebels and a dictator,'' Amr said. "Now they have stripped us of our revolution and are going to make a deal with the government.''
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/07/AR2011020705882.html
In Backing Vice President, U.S. Plays Tricky Hand in Egypt
WASHINGTON — Vice President Omar Suleiman of Egypt says he does not think it is time to lift the 30-year-old emergency law that has been used to suppress and imprison opposition leaders. He does not think President Hosni Mubarak needs to resign before his term ends in September. And he does not think his country is yet ready for democracy.
But, concluding that it lacks better options, the United States is backing him for a pivotal role in a still uncertain transition process in Egypt.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/world/middleeast/08diplomacy.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
Suleiman: The CIA's man in Cairo
Suleiman, a friend to the US and reported torturer, has long been touted as a presidential successor.
Suleiman the torturer
In October 2001, Habib was seized from a bus by Pakistani security forces. While detained in Pakistan, at the behest of American agents, he was suspended from a hook and electrocuted repeatedly. He was then turned over to the CIA, and in the process of transporting him to Egypt he endured the usual treatment: his clothes were cut off, a suppository was stuffed in his anus, he was put into a diaper - and 'wrapped up like a spring roll'.
In Egypt, as Habib recounts in his memoir, My Story: The Tale of a Terrorist Who Wasn’t, he was repeatedly subjected to electric shocks, immersed in water up to his nostrils and beaten. His fingers were broken and he was hung from metal hooks. At one point, his interrogator slapped him so hard that his blindfold was dislodged, revealing the identity of his tormentor: Suleiman.
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/02/201127114827382865.html
Cables: Israel favored Egypt's VP Suleiman
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iwXyUEFLkrjut98pKFweFsvSwi6g?docId=df0651559ee4413cb470d15f95291342
'Israel wants Suleiman to lead Egypt'
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/164165.html
Concern rising along the Israel-Egypt border
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/02/07/2742884/concern-rises-along-the-israel-egypt-border
Hezbollah backs Egypt protests
Leader Nasrallah says protesters are fighting for 'Arab dignity' and slams US for supporting region's 'dictatorships'.
In his first comments since unrest began in Egypt almost two weeks ago, Nasrallah said on Monday that his Shia movement did not intend to intervene in the "internal business" of protesters, or to influence their decisions.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/20112716455777942.html
The Sinai Gas Blast: Another Reason for Israeli Anxiety over Egypt
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2046573,00.html#ixzz1DKiBl2000 -
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Mubarak preparing to go to Germany, report claims
Dubai: Egypt's embattled president Hosni Mubarak is preparing to go to Germany to ensure a smooth exit as president of Egypt under the guise of a medical checkup, a German newsmagazine has reported.
According to German weekly Der Spiegel, the plans for Mubarak to stay at a luxury clinic in Germany are "more concrete" than previously reported, and are believed to be part of a deal that is being discussed between the US government and Mubarak's regime.
http://gulfnews.com/news/region/egypt/mubarak-preparing-to-go-to-germany-report-claims-1.758795
Egypt nears military coup. USS warships in Suez Canal
A fresh surge of popular anti-Mubarak protest ripping across Egypt Tuesday, Feb. 8 has brought the country closer to a military coup to stem the anarchy than at any time since the street caught fire on Jan. 25.
http://www.debka.com/article/20646/
Thousands ready for more Egypt protests
"Yesterday, one man in his 60s said: 'We were cowards. We kept quiet all these years, but you've done it.' It's inspiring. It's a rebirth," he said. "I never thought I'd sleep on asphalt with rain on my face and feel happy."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/08/3133561.htm?section=world
Freed young leader energizes Egyptian protests
CAIRO - A young Google executive who helped ignite Egypt's uprising energized a cheering crowd of hundreds of thousands Tuesday with his first appearance in their midst after being released from 12 days in secret detention. "We won't give up," he promised at one of the biggest protests yet in Cairo's Tahrir Square.
In Tahrir, the massive, shoulder-to-shoulder crowd's ranks swelled with new blood, including thousands of university professors and lawyers who marched in together as organizers worked to draw in professional unions. The crowd rivaled the biggest demonstration so far, a week ago, that drew a quarter-million people.
http://newsystocks.com/news/3946348
Emancipation from the West
The sudden surge of public discontent and resistance in the Arab countries of Tunisia, Lebanon, Sudan, Jordan, Yemen and Egypt against their respective autocratic rulers who have been in power for the last two to three decades with the convenience and active support of the West -US as much as the European countries who are otherwise trying to implement democracy even in Afghanistan!!!- is a surprising event for almost all political observers especially to the people in Muslim countries, the revolt against Ben Ali started when a grocer unable to make his both ends meet was forced by circumstances to commit suicide in Tunis, this made the people come on the streets chanting anti government slogans that made the ruler flee to take refuge in Saudi Arabia.
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=75324
Emancipate ourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
Coz none of them can stop the time.
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I'd imagine that given their reliance on the $1.3b the US give them in annual military aid that they'll be significantly better behaved.Mahatma coat wrote: »And its Straight into a Military Junta
Will be interested to See if the Egyptian Military behave simmilar to the Thai Millitary on this one, or the Fijian
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loved this bit of light relief on the matter...Mubarak Finally Steps Down – Micheál Martin Considering His Position
Hosni Mubarak pictured in The Tap Bar in Tullamore enjoying a pint “I’m finally able to look at things” he says
DATELINE EGYPTANIA.: Hosni Mubarak, the second least popular politician of 2011, has finally stepped down prompting a wave of celebrations across Egypt and causing Micheál Martin to reflexively consider standing as his replacement.
A stoic Mr Mubarak went to himself earlier today and formally asked himself to dissolve his government. He then travelled to The Tap Bar in Tullamore to “spend time with loyal friends”.
Mr Mubarak moved fellow drinkers with his heartfelt rendition of The Pyramids of Ponchartrain before livening up his audience with a series of razor sharp impressions of Anwar Sadat, Lawrence of Arabia and golfer Padraig Harrington.
although this more serious piece explains beautifully US involvement and interest in the egyptian 'uprising'
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I previously posted this elsewhere as I was banned from here, but I'm back and would like to repost it in it's proper home.
Egypt is now under military rule, by a military council appointed and loyal to the old dictator, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces has its frontman Hussein Tantawi (Mubaraks Poodle), also members are Omar Suleiman (The CIA's man in Egypt and torturer) and "former?" prime minister Ahmed Mohamed Shafik, all loyalists to the "old" regime.
They will assume power for at least 6 months, maybe longer, maybe permanent, once they have power will they be quick to let it go, any number of reasons may prevent "democratic" elections, nothing is certain.
It's a slight of hand, the head man is gone but his appointed military men are now in control and playing the game, the crowds have dwindled and almost gone, but has the regime?, I think not.
Meet "Mubarak's Poodle"
Meet the CIA's main man in Egypt and known torturer.
Mr Suleiman recently warned that Egyptian people were “not ready for democracy,”
Meet "former prime minister" Ahmed Mohamed Shafik
The government of Dr. Ahmed Mohamed Shafik shall continue its work until a new government is formed.
So the regime change may just be a regime change, a new regime comprised of the old regime minus Mubarak.
Mubarak's Men to Reform Egypt? U.S. Diplomatic Cables Tell Another Story
http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/165254.html
Egypt Trades Torture Supervisor for 'Mubarak's Poodle'?
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/egypt-...ry?id=12895439
Transition Is a Test for Suleiman
Egyptian Vice President Omar Suleiman, a man intimately tied to the 30-year rule of Hosni Mubarak, appeared to be charged Thursday night with overseeing the transition from the very same regime.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj
Egypt’s ‘Robespierre moment’ won’t mean instant democracy
Those who thought Egypt was on the fast track to democracy had better think again. That was the message issued Sunday by Egypt’s official new rulers: The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces.
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Just a little update, seems the police are burning documents and the people aint happy, wonder why?
CAIRO, Mar 6, 2011 (IPS) - The much-feared secret police and intelligence service that protected the regime of former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak by arresting, torturing, and even killing opponents has started a wave of burning documents and evidence that could incriminate them, as calls escalate for abolishing the force altogether and bringing its officers to justice.
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=54728
CAIRO, Egypt -- The footage is shocking: A man lies screaming on the floor of a police station as officers sodomize him with a wooden pole.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1de970650e
Egyptian protestors seize secret police files
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2011/s3156933.htm
Protesters Storm Egypt Security Offices
Amn al Dowla was the main tool of repression used by Mr. Mubarak's government during its 30 years in power, according to human-rights activists and analysts. Under Egypt's emergency law, it routinely arrested citizens and tortured them, activists allege. Since Mr. Mubarak stepped down, the security forces are still running but have kept out of the public eye.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703362804576184803483027700.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Egyptians storm state security buildings
"We could see police inside the building burning the papers," said one witness.
"The windows were open and loads of papers were flying out," another told AFP by telephone.
The army, which has been maintaining security since police disappeared from the streets in anti-government protests last month, blocked protesters from getting inside the building.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gju4irhNNhLPUMyOdb3pwTU4qsSA?docId=CNG.5202a65c8d4fc875936fd8f48bfa74e2.4c1
So the uprising hasn't really produced much yet, same same, but different!0 -
Gaddafi the freemason puppet isn't giving up as easy as Mubarak.
The opposition have numbers and determination on their side, the regime has the weaponry and aircraft, some have decided not to slaughter on behalf of the regime and landed their aircraft in malta, while others have no problems "carrying out orders".
This is going to get messy, the whole middle east is about to explode.
Disturbing video from Libya.
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EgyptianRevolt wrote: »Now the Extreme christians protest transformed into street war , the christians in many areas in Cairo , started to cut roads and stop cars and stonning it ,
On the other hand some of muslims extremes as well made a protest in front of the prime minister building asking to free (Kamelia) who is a christian rumers said she is become muslim and the church hold her in the church and she is disappeared ,,, an old story came into surface in the very wrong time
now the hidden fingers shows its dirty face to make egypt gone through a civil war between muslims and christians which in turn will enable outter hands to be more interfers by the cause of protecting the minorities inside egypt...
Some talks here and there on internet claims that the ways to defeats Egypt is by intiate civil war or by intiate war against it ,,, and sure there is only one neighbour will be benfited from the defeating of Egypt..
Keep informed
Thanks for the updates Egyptian Revolt. You must be extremely proud to have lived through such a huge chapter in history.
Your English is very good by the way
Your right about the potential for a civil war I think. Sadly I can see Egypt becoming another Iraq and being broken up to weaken it for Israel's sake.
I wonder if you might have a quick look at this and tell me what you think?
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Manuel_AEI_Revolution_Egypte.pdf0 -
Brown Bomber wrote: »
Where'd that come from BB?
Its a very handy how to guide. Some tips in it are pretty good, like about how to spread the message of the revolution etc. The 10 demands at the start all seem very inclusive and reasonable as well. It'd take me a week to get through it properly with my ****ty arabic. Hopefully EgyptianRevolt can give a decent synopsis.
Its something very slick to come out of a country in the grip of revolution and choas for the past few weeks. I'd say there is a good chance that was made by an Egyptian expat living in europe, perhaps involved in hard left leaning groups here in Europe.
The author is fairly adamant that it should only be spread via email and printing it out. They don't seem to trust Twitter or Facebook, which fits in with what people have been saying here lately about them being tools to monitor people. (They also don't want military people reading it
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Brown Bomber wrote: »Thanks for the updates Egyptian Revolt. You must be extremely proud to have lived through such a huge chapter in history.
Your English is very good by the way
Your right about the potential for a civil war I think. Sadly I can see Egypt becoming another Iraq and being broken up to weaken it for Israel's sake.
I wonder if you might have a quick look at this and tell me what you think?
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Manuel_AEI_Revolution_Egypte.pdf
Hola Bro , seems u from the old days
my first comment on this file when i saw it was , the arabic language full of mistakes , just like ur comment in my english ,,,,
however the message was spread , and the revolts could do it..
hope we can control it now in the way we want , not the way the one eyed ppl want..
by the way did u noticed the logo of the state or homeland security (amn eldawla)... it has the one eyed on it...;)
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Where'd that come from BB?
Its a very handy how to guide. Some tips in it are pretty good, like about how to spread the message of the revolution etc. The 10 demands at the start all seem very inclusive and reasonable as well. It'd take me a week to get through it properly with my ****ty arabic. Hopefully EgyptianRevolt can give a decent synopsis.
Its something very slick to come out of a country in the grip of revolution and choas for the past few weeks. I'd say there is a good chance that was made by an Egyptian expat living in europe, perhaps involved in hard left leaning groups here in Europe.
The author is fairly adamant that it should only be spread via email and printing it out. They don't seem to trust Twitter or Facebook, which fits in with what people have been saying here lately about them being tools to monitor people. (They also don't want military people reading it:o)
Wow! You impress me yekahs. Didn't know you could read Arabic. A freemason solider learning Arabic. Going undercover are we?
Apparently the PDF is from the Albert Einstein Institute. I got the link from Thierry Meysann's site.
With background info on the document.
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Gaddafi the freemason puppet isn't giving up as easy as Mubarak.
I don't neccessarily trust this Al Jazeera report.
Translation from Veterans Today.The following is an English-language translation of the brief news report:
“Numerous books on magic and summoning[of demons] have been foundinside Gadhafi’s presidential palace in Al-Beidaa, in addition to several religious books specifically about the Talmud and the Jewish religion.”
Al Jazeera goes on to show six Arabic-language books that were said to have been found in Gadhafi’s possession (and which appear to have been mounted behind glass). The books bear titles including: “A Complete Exegesis of the Talmud and the Teachings of the Rabbis”; “The Kabbala and Jewish Magic”; “The League of Satan: The Political Mafia and the Mafia of Religions”; and “The 72 Secrets at the Heart of Judaism.”
Gadaffi a kaballistic, Illuminist freemason?
Gaddafi is a Freemason, Lockerbie trial told
http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/gaddafi-is-a-freemason-lockerbie-trial-told-1.48871
Saif Gadaffi, his son is close to Nat Rothschild.Saif is an acquaintance of Lord Mandelson and met the former Labour minister at a Corfu villa the week before it was announced that the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, would be released from a Scottish prison. The two men met again when they were guests at Lord Rothschild's mansion in Buckinghamshire.
Rothschild's son and heir, Nat, also a close friend of Mandelson, held a party in New York attended by Saif in 2008. Saif in turn invited Nat Rothschild to his 37th birthday party in Montenegro, where the financier is investing in a luxury resort.
Prince Andrew, too, has played host to Saif at Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle and the two men have also met in Tripoli. Others whom Saif classes as good friends include Tony Blair and, bizarrely, the late Austrian far-right leader, Jörg Haider.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/27/gaddafi-son-saif-al-islam-profile
http://www.gicdf.org/
Here is freemason Gadaffi in a masonic grip with Frank Bruno in the company of Jimmy Saville.
My mistake it's actually the murdering mason Peter Sutcliffe, The Yorkshire Ripper.0
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