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blackcoat

wee truck big driver wrote: »

based on what all i am doing is saving myself a few pound that actually makes it worth while actually getting out of bed in the morning if the gardai and rsa had their way i would make more on the dole. then whose going to pay the gardai 100,000 a year for driving the ministers around

HA! What a ridiculous post.

There aren't many laws that are more legitimate and straightforward than speeding laws.

Every year hundreds of people are killed on the roads and many more left with horrible life-changing injuries. On top of that thousands of other people such as friends and relatives suffer as a result.

Unfortunately, accidents always happen. However, the speed limit and other road traffic laws are in place in the hope that drivers will be travelling in a safe manner and have enough time to react should anything unpredicted occur, thereby minimising the likelihood of an accident.

Also, the law is literally there in black and white for you at regular intervals along the side of the road. How people can complain when they get a speeding ticket is beyond me. Just don't go over the limit!!! You hear it all the time - "f***ing guards. have they nothing better to do" YES! But because of morons who speed they have to spend time doing checkpoints.

People like you who regularly disregard these laws then moan about the Guards and the RSA when you get caught are an absolute disgrace in my opinion. How self-righteous do you have to be to consider yourself above a perfectly acceptable, non-oppressive law that applies to all of us?

wee truck big driver

blackcoat wrote: »

HA! What a ridiculous post.

There aren't many laws that are more legitimate and straightforward than speeding laws.

Every year hundreds of people are killed on the roads and many more left with horrible life-changing injuries. On top of that thousands of other people such as friends and relatives suffer as a result.

Unfortunately, accidents always happen. However, the speed limit and other road traffic laws are in place in the hope that drivers will be travelling in a safe manner and have enough time to react should anything unpredicted occur, thereby minimising the likelihood of an accident.

Also, the law is literally there in black and white for you at regular intervals along the side of the road. How people can complain when they get a speeding ticket is beyond me. Just don't go over the limit!!! You hear it all the time - "f***ing guards. have they nothing better to do" YES! But because of morons who speed they have to spend time doing checkpoints.

People like you who regularly disregard these laws then moan about the Guards and the RSA when you get caught are an absolute disgrace in my opinion. How self-righteous do you have to be to consider yourself above a perfectly acceptable, non-oppressive law that applies to all of us?

studies have shown that people driving slower are involved in more crashes because they arent concentrating as much admitedly these accidents may not be as serious. the problem with the gardai and speeding fines is they pick the places where they are more likely to catch people than where they are more likely to prevent accidents.

blackcoat

wee truck big driver wrote: »

studies have shown that people driving slower are involved in more crashes because they arent concentrating as much admitedly these accidents may not be as serious. the problem with the gardai and speeding fines is they pick the places where they are more likely to catch people than where they are more likely to prevent accidents.

Nonsense. You can go on the Garda website and see the location of all the new speed vans and people still complain about them when theyre caught!

Even if they do pick places where it's 'easy to catch' people - what difference does it make!? It's your problem for being over the limit in the first place. Don't do it and you won't encounter the guards. Full stop.

Its that sort of mentality thats making it so hard for the message about dangerous driving to get through. The usual 'ah unlucky' reaction when people say they got caught speeding. It's not ok to speed at any time!

How is that difficult to understand? Don't go over the limit and you'll have no problems. Why do you think you can put my life at risk because you're in a hurry?

wee truck big driver

blackcoat wrote: »

Nonsense. You can go on the Garda website and see the location of all the new speed vans and people still complain about them when theyre caught!

Even if they do pick places where it's 'easy to catch' people - what difference does it make!? It's your problem for being over the limit in the first place. Don't do it and you won't encounter the guards. Full stop.

Its that sort of mentality thats making it so hard for the message about dangerous driving to get through. The usual 'ah unlucky' reaction when people say they got caught speeding. It's not ok to speed at any time!

How is that difficult to understand? Don't go over the limit and you'll have no problems. Why do you think you can put my life at risk because you're in a hurry?

realistically the chance of being unlucky enough to get caught or slim due to a number of things like not very many speed traps, decent people flashing the lights and the good old c.b. radio

blackcoat

wee truck big driver wrote: »

realistically the chance of being unlucky enough to get caught or slim due to a number of things like not very many speed traps, decent people flashing the lights and the good old c.b. radio

And yet you've been caught enough times to be boasting on here about how much youve saved yourself not paying them!?

You seem to put an awful lot of thought into getting away with speeding (though you're not very good at it). What sort of small man complex do you need to have to make it your mission to break speeding laws to make yourself feel youve got one up on people.

I can only hope you never have to learn how wrong you are the hard way.

Also - why didnt you answer my last question? Ive a fair idea...

wee truck big driver

blackcoat wrote: »

And yet you've been caught enough times to be boasting on here about how much youve saved yourself not paying them!?

You seem to put an awful lot of thought into getting away with speeding (though you're not very good at it). What sort of small man complex do you need to have to make it your mission to break speeding laws to make yourself feel youve got one up on people.

I can only hope you never have to learn how wrong you are the hard way.

Also - why didnt you answer my last question? Ive a fair idea...

well for starters i probably drive more in a week than you do in a year. as to putting your life at risk provided you dont walk or drive out in front of a speeding car your life wont be at risk. i could explain what i mean about speeding with regard to the gardai trying to raise revenue as opposed to saving lifes. but your self righteous attitude means i couldnt be bothered

Bosco boy

wee truck big driver wrote: »

well for starters i probably drive more in a week than you do in a year. as to putting your life at risk provided you dont walk or drive out in front of a speeding car your life wont be at risk. i could explain what i mean about speeding with regard to the gardai trying to raise revenue as opposed to saving lifes. but your self righteous attitude means i couldnt be bothered

a sure tell us anyway! I love a good story! Can I take a guess? It's road safety when someone else gets a ticket and it revenue collection when you get one.

Yawns

wee truck big driver wrote: »

as to putting your life at risk provided you dont walk or drive out in front of a speeding car your life wont be at risk.

Oh of course how stupid of us all. We're only at risk when WE walk or drive in front of you.


You couldn't possibly lose control whilst speeding, maybe swerve across a road and hit someone walking / driving nearby?

Of course your're prob "a safe driver" so we don't have to worry about you speeding. Sure I'm "a safe gun holder" care to tell me where you live and i'll let a few rounds off at your house? You won't be in danger as long as you don't walk in front of my gun as I aim near you. I promise.

wee truck big driver

Yawns wrote: »

Oh of course how stupid of us all. We're only at risk when WE walk or drive in front of you.


You couldn't possibly lose control whilst speeding, maybe swerve across a road and hit someone walking / driving nearby?

Of course your're prob "a safe driver" so we don't have to worry about you speeding. Sure I'm "a safe gun holder" care to tell me where you live and i'll let a few rounds off at your house? You won't be in danger as long as you don't walk in front of my gun as I aim near you. I promise.

is the gun a legally held weapon if not you run the risk of the gardai taking it off you if it is legally held you would know that your not allowed to fire it off beside a house and finally feel free to have a go thanks to the minister for justice i have the right to blow your head off in this situation. who says theres no justice

wee truck big driver

Bosco boy wrote: »

a sure tell us anyway! I love a good story! Can I take a guess? It's road safety when someone else gets a ticket and it revenue collection when you get one.

hows it revenue collection i already told you i dont pay them. lets give an example like a speed trap outside a school at seven in the morning or just inside the 60 zone on an approach into a town or village surely more harm being done by trying to brake hard from 80 or 100k to get to 60. or as i said before the good old breath test in the morning not at 3am though no 8am (sure everbody knows thats when most fatal accidents occur)

Yawns

Oh lord, my 1st suspicions were right. I must remember never to argue with an idiot, they only take you down to their own level and beat you.

Speed if you want, don't pay fines if you want. I know a man just liek you who refused to pay his fine. He's currently in prison for not paying it. Good luck. Unfollowing this thread now.


k thx bai!

Bosco boy

wee truck big driver wrote: »

hows it revenue collection i already told you i dont pay them. lets give an example like a speed trap outside a school at seven in the morning or just inside the 60 zone on an approach into a town or village surely more harm being done by trying to brake hard from 80 or 100k to get to 60. or as i said before the good old breath test in the morning not at 3am though no 8am (sure everbody knows thats when most fatal accidents occur)

So if a speeding drunk driver is coming at you on the wrong side of the road at 7am outside a national school in a 60 your ok with that.

wee truck big driver

Bosco boy wrote: »

So if a speeding drunk driver is coming at you on the wrong side of the road at 7am outside a national school in a 60 your ok with that.

probably safe enough with 40 tonne behind me yes. but i think we both know that its more likely that somebody drunk and speeding will be doing it some time between 11pm and 4am but of ccourse theses ar harder work for the gardai might even put up a bit of a fight much easier to catch some body who is more likely to cooperate during the day

Yawns

lol wandered back in from main page.

It's ok for him to break the law and speed but it's not ok for say me to break the law and shoot a gun at his house. After all if he stays outta the way he won't get hurt right, isn't that his motto?

2 different scenarios with 1 similarity, they are both retard situations caused by 1 idiot, ie an idiot waving a gun and an idiot speeding.

His username is apt. I think he hit his head too much getting in and out of the truck. My username is apt too as I am now bored with his silliness.

blackcoat

wee truck big driver wrote: »

well for starters i probably drive more in a week than you do in a year. as to putting your life at risk provided you dont walk or drive out in front of a speeding car your life wont be at risk. i could explain what i mean about speeding with regard to the gardai trying to raise revenue as opposed to saving lifes. but your self righteous attitude means i couldnt be bothered

You already have explained it and I've already explained why you are wrong. This isn't a matter of personal opinion. It's a fact- Don't break the speed limit and you won't have to worry about the Guards catching you, regardless of their motives for setting up a checkpoint.

How am I the one being self-righteous? I am saying the law should apply equally to all of us. Everyone should be equally accountable no matter who they are.

You on the other hand are suggesting that just because a person is an extremely busy truck driver who clocks up more miles in a week than most of us do in a year they should be exempt from speeding laws. Absolute madness. On the contrary, they should be acutely aware of the rules of the road.

As to your point about not running out in front of moving traffic - that just makes no sense whatsoever. The very basis of these laws are acknowledging the fact that accidents will happen be it the driver or the pedestrian or any other road user at fault. Because the driver is in control of, and may potentially lose control of, a car (or in your case a bloody truck! No matter how 'wee' it is it would absolutely crush a person beyond recognition) the laws seek to minimise the likelihood of such a tragic accident occuring. The downward trend in road death tallies as enforcement of the laws was increased is evidence of there being a sound, irrefutable basis for these laws.

To sum up - You drive a truck. You are legally obliged to stay within the speed limit for the safety of yourself and others. Even then, you should exercise extreme caution whilst driving. If you get caught speeding you get a ticket. Simple as that. Maybe repeating that aloud would help you understand?

wee truck big driver

as i said already i do more driving than your average driver and can easily say that i see more dangerous driving than your average joe soap and can say that not all of it relates to speeding.heres a list of what i see on a regular basis. people stopping on a road with a solid white line to take phone calls. cars pulling out in front of me and then driving like a snail. passing out coming up to or on corners. drivers hoging the white line. driving on the motorway in the overtaking lane while overtaking nothing. coming down the slip straight on to motorway with no consideration for the traffic already on the motorway. now the law states that hgvs cant use the overtaking lane on the motorway when you consider that tractors are allowed use the motorway in theory a hgv driver could have to sit behind a tractor from dundalk to dublin thats at 40k. as for roundabouts less than half the people know which lane to be in and less than a quather ever indicate correctly on them. and if i had a euro for every car that overtook me on a narrow country road and then either pulled in a mile down the road or just sat in front of me doing the same speed as i was doing anyway i would never have to work again.people just stopping in front of you so you go to pass them and they then cross the road with out using there indicators turning left but refusing to use the filter lane and just generally showing no awarenes of the traffic around them which is a mistake if you have a truck grossing 44 tonne behind you beside you.

wee truck big driver

with regard to the speed limit is it fair or safe to have the same limit for a 70 year old in a 20 year old micra and a 30 year old in a brand new mercedes (with regard to ability to react stop and cornering ability)not that i have a brand new mercedes. anyhow the gardai do not have the manpower or if they do they dont use them approriately to enforce the laws in any meaningful way and like everything else in this country its the person who is working trying to do the job as near to right as possible will be the one to pay as those who steal cars or drive with no license insurance and have no wish to adhere to any laws will have absolutly no fear of the gardai or courts

blackcoat

wee truck big driver wrote: »

with regard to the speed limit is it fair or safe to have the same limit for a 70 year old in a 20 year old micra and a 30 year old in a brand new mercedes (with regard to ability to react stop and cornering ability)not that i have a brand new mercedes. anyhow the gardai do not have the manpower or if they do they dont use them approriately to enforce the laws in any meaningful way and like everything else in this country its the person who is working trying to do the job as near to right as possible will be the one to pay as those who steal cars or drive with no license insurance and have no wish to adhere to any laws will have absolutly no fear of the gardai or courts

I completely agree with you regarding those laws being broken on a regular basis. But just because what you consider to be more serious breaches of the rules of the road occurring doesnt condone you breaking the speed limit!! By that rationale we could condone robbery for as long as others were committing armed robbery.

You have admitted to regularly breaking the speed limit and that is simply not acceptable in any circumstances. Regardless of what other motorists are doing. It doesnt matter how much driving you do!

You clearly get very annoyed by others driving dangerously and rightfully so. It's disgraceful. But you're doing it as well!

You should have grown out of that 'im invincible, it'll never happen to me' attitude long ago.

I sincerely hope you learn to cool your road rage and slow down for your own sake and others. Safe travels.

wee truck big driver

blackcoat wrote: »

I completely agree with you regarding those laws being broken on a regular basis. But just because what you consider to be more serious breaches of the rules of the road occurring doesnt condone you breaking the speed limit!! By that rationale we could condone robbery for as long as others were committing armed robbery.

You have admitted to regularly breaking the speed limit and that is simply not acceptable in any circumstances. Regardless of what other motorists are doing. It doesnt matter how much driving you do!

You clearly get very annoyed by others driving dangerously and rightfully so. It's disgraceful. But you're doing it as well!

You should have grown out of that 'im invincible, it'll never happen to me' attitude long ago.

I sincerely hope you learn to cool your road rage and slow down for your own sake and others. Safe travels.

show me the post where i said i regularily break the speeed limit

Bosco boy

Be careful doing that U turn you could cause an accident!

chopser

anything i get is filed carefuly in the nearest bin

wee truck big driver wrote: »

have saved myself a few hundred and a few penalty points so far gaurd

I think this indicates that you break some rules of the road.

wee truck big driver

Bosco boy wrote: »

Be careful doing that U turn you could cause an accident!

are u turns illegal

wee truck big driver

chopser wrote: »

anything i get is filed carefuly in the nearest bin



I think this indicates that you break some rules of the road.

its fair to say that doing on average two thousand + miles a week for the last ten years a couple of hundred in fines hardly counts as an habitual law breaker.

Yawns

Meh my father drove trucks for 10 years, drove miles week in week out, no fines tho.


Guess that's the difference between someone who cares to keep a clean licence and 1 who couldn't give a **** I guess.


GN, off to watch Aliens, yay!

Bosco boy

Q. If a wee truck is 40 ton how big is a big driver?

wee truck big driver

Yawns wrote: »

Meh my father drove trucks for 10 years, drove miles week in week out, no fines tho.


Guess that's the difference between someone who cares to keep a clean licence and 1 who couldn't give a **** I guess.


GN, off to watch Aliens, yay!

half as many gardai back then less speed limits and worse roads

wee truck big driver

Bosco boy wrote: »

Q. If a wee truck is 40 ton how big is a big driver?

you know the weight is do do with the number of axles and not the size of the truck.equally big driver could mean height, weight or even size when lying down or any combination of all three

blackcoat

wee truck big driver wrote: »

its fair to say that doing on average two thousand + miles a week for the last ten years a couple of hundred in fines hardly counts as an habitual law breaker.

A few hundred euro?!? Yes it does indicate habitual law breaking. Especially when, as you've gone to great lengths to point out, it is extremely unlikely to get caught due to ingenious practices such as flashing the lights, communicating on the radio etc. And yet youve still managed to get caught a few hundred euro worth of times. I can only specualte as to how often you get away with it.


Also, for the sake of discussion lets say you dont in fact break the speed limit. Why not?

• You clearly don't regard it as a legitimate law as speeding is not a risk to yourself and others (its our fault for walking out in front of you as you speed through a village at 100kmph because thats safer than breaking to get down to 60kmh).
• You don't fear the repercussions (you throw the fines in the bin).
• You don't do it out of respect or confidence in those enforcing the law (the guards are 'handcuffed by stupidity').

The only reason I can see for you having bothered to engage in a lengthy discussion where you rejected the validity of speed limit laws and belittled the guards, despite loyally adhering to these laws yourself, is because you're a still bitter about that time you got a ticket for accidentally creeping over the limit. Grow up and accept the consequences like a man instead of contradicting yourself time and again because you feel victimised.

Bosco boy

wee truck big driver wrote: »

you know the weight is do do with the number of axles and not the size of the truck.equally big driver could mean height, weight or even size when lying down or any combination of all three

or maybe the wee truck is a truck full of wee!

wee truck big driver

blackcoat wrote: »

A few hundred euro?!? Yes it does indicate habitual law breaking. Especially when, as you've gone to great lengths to point out, it is extremely unlikely to get caught due to ingenious practices such as flashing the lights, communicating on the radio etc. And yet youve still managed to get caught a few hundred euro worth of times. I can only specualte as to how often you get away with it.



Also, for the sake of discussion lets say you dont in fact break the speed limit. Why not?

• You clearly don't regard it as a legitimate law as speeding is not a risk to yourself and others (its our fault for walking out in front of you as you speed through a village at 100kmph because thats safer than breaking to get down to 60kmh).
• You don't fear the repercussions (you throw the fines in the bin).
• You don't do it out of respect or confidence in those enforcing the law (the guards are 'handcuffed by stupidity').

The only reason I can see for you having bothered to engage in a lengthy discussion where you rejected the validity of speed limit laws and belittled the guards, despite loyally adhering to these laws yourself, is because you're a still bitter about that time you got a ticket for accidentally creeping over the limit. Grow up and accept the consequences like a man instead of contradicting yourself time and again because you feel victimised.

a few hundred at 80 a pop for a fixed penalty fine would add up to 3 fines for fairly minor offences. when you consider that there is a greater numbeer of fines applicable to a truck driver than your average joe soap. and the fact thatyou could be hooking into 3 or 4 different trailers a day thats 20 different tyres. 20 different lights clean side markings trailers tested,tachographs hours etc this means a good gardai would nearly always be able to pick up some small offence regardless how petty which makes the lorry driver an easy target. as for risking other peoples lives i am simply making the point that other people have to take responsibilty for their own actions while driving or walking