Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

ormond lad

Podge_irl wrote: »

Who's McIlroy?

Blaine McIlroy. played scrum half on 20s last year

CIARAN_BOYLE

Podge_irl wrote: »

Who's McIlroy?

Young SH first year out of the academy this year.

Was ahead of Cooney and Marmion for the 2011 U20s 6 nations but played like a drain and was dropped for that years JRWC.

bilston wrote: »

Payne excelled at 13 for Auckland and the Blues, I think Anscombe coached him at Auckland too, I wonder of we'll see a lot of Payne at 13 this season. That would leave us light at FB and would be bad news for Cave. Still I wouldn't read much into this selection.

I reckon Payne could play every game next season. Mainly at 15 but he will shifted a few times to give experience to the likes of Nelson at 15.

Fireball07

bilston wrote: »

First game of the Anscombe era tomorrow era against Bayonne.

Apparently it will be rolling subs and Anscombe has said it's more of a fitness builder than anything else nevertheless it will be interesting to hear how it goes.

According to a reliable poster on UAFC the starting backline is:

9 McIlroy
10 Jackson
11 Cochrane
12 Farrell
13 Payne
14 Gilroy
15 Nelson

Payne excelled at 13 for Auckland and the Blues, I think Anscombe coached him at Auckland too, I wonder of we'll see a lot of Payne at 13 this season. That would leave us light at FB and would be bad news for Cave. Still I wouldn't read much into this selection.

Well I get that Payne is a very talented player but Ulster already have Cave and Spence at 13...Payne is better than the other options at full-back, so it'd seem unlikely.

the_doctor199

New Ulster coach Mark Anscombe has named his match day squad for the pre season friendly against Bayonne at the Parc des Jean Dauger this evening (KO 7pm BST)...


In his first match in charge, Anscombe has selected a team with a mix of youth and experience, and it will give him the chance to look at some interesting combinations.
The match will see Australian born openside flanker Sean Doyle make his debut for Ulster in the back row. Jared Payne will start the game at outside centre, in what will be his first outing since he damaged his Achilles against Cardiff in September last year.

Doyle is joined in the back row by the experienced Robbie Diack and Mike McComish. Johann Muller will skipper the team and is partnered at lock by Neil McComb. The front row will be made up of Callum Black, Niall Annett and Adam Macklin, who will be starting a game together for the first time.

Former Methodist College classmates Blane McIlroy and Patrick Jackson will form the half back combination, while Academy player Chris Farrell will play alongside Payne in midfield. Chris Cochrane, Craig Gilroy and Peter Nelson will provide plenty of attacking intent from the back three.

The match in France is part of a four day training camp before Ulster return for home friendlies against Leicester (18th Aug) and Newcastle (24th Aug).

Ulster (15-9): P Nelson; C Gilroy, J Payne, C Farrell, C Cochrane; P Jackson, B McIlroy;
(1-8): C Black, N Annett, A Macklin, J Muller (c), N McComb, M McComish, S Doyle, R Diack;
Replacements: R Herring, R Lutton, J Afoa, L Stevenson, A Birch, M Heaney, N O’Connor, L Marshall, M Allen, R Andrew

leonard7

7 methodist college players in that squad Niall Annett, Adam Macklin, Patrick Jackson, Blane McIlroy, Craig Gilroy, Michael Heany and Michael Allen an impressive amount from one school

Hagz

The game is underway and its 3-0 thanks to a Paddy Jackson penalty./
12-3 to Bayonne now/
10-12 Ulster try - Michael Heaney

CIARAN_BOYLE

The scrum is getting mullered

The try was after a series of scrum and macklin is in the bin from scrum offenses

GerM

12-3 and the likes of Phillips, Tialata, Rocokoco and Heymans on the bench.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Second half ulster team
2nd half team (1-15) Black, Herring, Afoa, Stevenson, McComb, McCormish, Doyle, Diack, Heaney, O'Connor, Andrew,Marshall,Allen,Gilroy,Nelson

12-3 now. Worth remembering that the French team's season starts next week while this is Ulster's first match of the pre-season

EDIT 12-10 Heaney try

CIARAN_BOYLE

NOC penalty 13-12 now

CIARAN_BOYLE

Final Score 20-15

Niall McComb try

Ulster's away first win in France apparently

bilston

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Final Score 20-15

Niall McComb try

Ulster's away first win in France apparently

Don't know what team Bayonne had out but given what we had out and given where Ulster and Bayonne are in their respective pre seasons that's a cracking win.

CIARAN_BOYLE

bilston wrote: »

Don't know what team Bayonne had out but given what we had out and given where Ulster and Bayonne are in their respective pre seasons that's a cracking win.

All I know about the Bayonne team is the quote from GerM below

GerM wrote: »

12-3 and the likes of Phillips, Tialata, Rocokoco and Heymans on the bench.

overshoot

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Final Score 20-15

Niall McComb try

Ulster's away first win in France apparently

good start now for a competative win there;)

great win though for the first pre season game!

bilston

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

All I know about the Bayonne team is the quote from GerM below

Yeah I saw that earlier, it doesn't take away from the fact that our second/third team (with three or four exceptions) beat a French team in France whatever the circumstances.

Edit - Bayonne starting XV

(15-9): S Spedding; J Rokocoko, T Lacroix, M Ahotaeiloa, M O'Connor; J Potgieter, M Phillips; (1-8): A Iguiniz, D Roumieu, N Tialata; D Senekal, A Boutaty; M Chisholm, J Puricelli, D Haare.

Thierry Lacroix must be about 48 by now!

phog

Match report from the Irish Examiner

Bayonne 15 Ulster 20

By John Fallon, Stade Jean Dauger

Friday, August 10, 2012

Lock Neil McComb was the hero for Ulster as he raced over for a match-winning try three minutes from the end to give new coach Mark Anscombe a winning start.

It was no more than Ulster deserved as they came good in the second-half of a good workout for Ulster in their brief tour to the south of France.

The stifling heat — it was 27 degrees at the 8pm kick-off — certainly made it difficult for both teams and Bayonne got on top as the opening progressed with both sides opting to run the ball at all times.

Ulster turned down a few kicks at the posts in favour of going to touch but they were unable to pierce the home defence.

Eventually, Paddy Jackson opted for a kick at the posts after 15 minutes and he made no mistake to give Ulster the lead from 43 metres.

But Bayonne, still smarting after failing to score against neighbours and arch-rivals Biarritz last weekend, responded with a series of good drives and they finally crossed after 27 minutes when hooker David Roumieu barged over after several close range scrums.

They repeated the dose just before the break after Ulster tighthead Adam Macklin was binned as Ulster conceded a succession of penalties in front of their own posts and it was hooker Roumieu who again found the gap to cross and leave the French 12-3 in front at the break.

Ulster got on top after the restart and reduced the deficit when returning scrum-half Michael Heaney cut a great line to cross after 49 minutes, with Niall O’Connor adding the points.

O’Connor was off target with a penalty from inside halfway but then pushed Ulster in front with a 46 metre kick.

Cedric Garcia restored Bayonne’s lead but then McComb burst through three minutes from the end to seal victory for the Heineken Cup finalists.

Bayonne scorers: Tries: Roumieu (2) Cons: Potgieter Pens: Garcia

Ulster scorers: Tries: Heaney, McComb; Cons: O’Connor (2); Pens: Jackson, O’Connor.

BAYONNE: S Spedding; J Rokocoko, T Lacroix, M Ahotaeiloa, M O’Connor; J Potgieter, M Phillips; A Iguiniz, D Roumieu, N Tialata; D Senekal, A Boutaty; M Chisholm, J Puricelli, D Haare.

Replacements used: G Arganeve, P Lafond, W Desmaison, M Baget, C Garcia, M Ugalde, C Helmans, V Manukula, R Bayoud, R Linde, JJ Marmouyet, S Gerber, B Fuster, G Bernad.

ULSTER: P Nelson; C Gilroy, J Payne, C Farrell, C Cochrane; P Jackson, B McIlroy; C Black, N Annett, A Macklin; J Muller, N McComb; M McComish, S Doyle, R Diack.

Replacements used: R Herring, R Lutton, J Afoa, L Stevenson, A Birch, M Heaney, N O’Connor, M Allen, L Marshall, R Andrew.

jacothelad

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Final Score 20-15

Niall McComb try

Ulster's away first win in France apparently

Not true actually. In the amateur era Ulster beat 'France' in Marseilles during the 1980s.

CIARAN_BOYLE

jacothelad wrote: »

Not true actually. In the amateur era Ulster beat 'France' in Marseilles during the 1980s.

ok Ulster's first away win in France in the professional era then maybe

thomond2006

Bad news, according to the man himself Paddy McAllister is out for the season with torn knee ligaments. I assume he did them at the Bayonne match.

https://twitter.com/paddymcallister/

Crap timing, I was hoping he would challenge Court for the LH shirt. Who will step up as backup now?

I am pie

thomond2006 wrote: »

Bad news, according to the man himself Paddy McAllister is out for the season with torn knee ligaments. I assume he did them at the Bayonne match.

https://twitter.com/paddymcallister/

Crap timing, I was hoping he would challenge Court for the LH shirt. Who will step up as backup now?

Sh1te news. Was. Hoping for a big sason from Paddy. Gutted for the lad.

bilston

thomond2006 wrote: »

Bad news, according to the man himself Paddy McAllister is out for the season with torn knee ligaments. I assume he did them at the Bayonne match.

https://twitter.com/paddymcallister/

Crap timing, I was hoping he would challenge Court for the LH shirt. Who will step up as backup now?

Well that's put a dampner on the night

CIARAN_BOYLE

thomond2006 wrote: »

Bad news, according to the man himself Paddy McAllister is out for the season with torn knee ligaments. I assume he did them at the Bayonne match.

https://twitter.com/paddymcallister/

Crap timing, I was hoping he would challenge Court for the LH shirt. Who will step up as backup now?

Callum Black is an able LH and will step up to back up Court. I'm not sure who will end up on the bench when Court is involved internationally, Carey?

Poor Paddy, he could well have been capped in the next year if fit for Ulster.

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

Bad news, according to the man himself Paddy McAllister is out for the season with torn knee ligaments. I assume he did them at the Bayonne match.

https://twitter.com/paddymcallister/

Crap timing, I was hoping he would challenge Court for the LH shirt. Who will step up as backup now?

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Podge_irl

Terrible news for Paddy McAllister, looked good the few times I saw him. Ran into his dad in London before the final - surprisingly slight man!

Is it just me or are more young players out injured these days?

Cpt_Blackbeard

He's had some horrible luck with injury. Hopefully he'll recover and turn out more Cian Healy than Darragh Hurley.

the_doctor199

Terrible news re Paddy.

In other news, kit is out Friday if anyone is interested. Presumably on sale at the Leicester game too.

jacothelad

Ulster might seek permission from the IRFU to sign an emergency loose head on a season basis. With Court likely to be away with Ireland, Paddy out for the year and Black the only real option we could be in trouble. At least we won't see Brady at 1 this season.

jacothelad

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster might seek permission from the IRFU to sign an emergency loose head on a season basis. With Court likely to be away with Ireland, Paddy out for the year and Black the only real option we could be in trouble. At least we won't see Brady at 1 this season.

Never even thought about this. Who could they get?

Marcus for a swansong? :pac:

CIARAN_BOYLE

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster might seek permission from the IRFU to sign an emergency loose head on a season basis. With Court likely to be away with Ireland, Paddy out for the year and Black the only real option we could be in trouble. At least we won't see Brady at 1 this season.

I'm thinking that we might see Afoa shifting to LH for some games. He can play on both sides of the scrum (hooker too supposedly).

I don't know much about Lutton in terms of how good is he but he came on at LH against Bayonne.

totallegend

jacothelad wrote: »

Ulster might seek permission from the IRFU to sign an emergency loose head on a season basis. With Court likely to be away with Ireland, Paddy out for the year and Black the only real option we could be in trouble. At least we won't see Brady at 1 this season.

Do you mean an NIQ loose-head? Wow, can't see that happening.