Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

awec · 18-03-2013 1:06pm

Will be watching it indeed. Come on RBAI, just for the sake of variety. :pac:

the_doctor199 · 18-03-2013 1:07pm

Would anyone else agree it's best to rest Luke Marshall on Friday, even if he recovers from the bash to the head? I don't think we can afford to have him miss the Leinster/Sarries game with Wallace injured.

Not sure who would play in his place though, maybe Andrews at 15 and Payne at centre?

bilston · 18-03-2013 1:09pm

the_doctor199 wrote: »

Would anyone else agree it's best to rest Luke Marshall on Friday, even if he recovers from the bash to the head? I don't think we can afford to have him miss the Leinster/Sarries game with Wallace injured.

Not sure who would play in his place though, maybe Andrews at 15 and Payne at centre?

I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.

bilston · 18-03-2013 1:11pm

leonard7 wrote: »

come on Methody!!! haha

Inst Inst Ancient and Royal!

the_doctor199 · 18-03-2013 1:12pm

bilston wrote: »

I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.

Totally forgot about Olding, good call.

shuffol · 18-03-2013 1:12pm

bilston wrote: »

I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.

Seem to remember his kicking being a bit dodge for the u-20s last season, looked much more comfortable at 13 but another center is the last thing Ulster need.

awec · 18-03-2013 1:12pm

bilston wrote: »

I dont think the internationals will be available anyway so he would be rested no matter what. Olding to 12 and Payne at 15 for me although maybe Olding will be needed at 10?

By the way Peter Nelson played 10 for Dungannon on Sat and scored 21 points which is good to hear.

Does that include the likes of Paul Marshall? Could we see him at 9 and RP at 10?

bilston · 18-03-2013 1:18pm

awec wrote: »

Does that include the likes of Paul Marshall? Could we see him at 9 and RP at 10?

Usually just the starters so Marshall should be ok to play.

trouttrout · 18-03-2013 1:20pm

Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect

awec · 18-03-2013 1:22pm

trouttrout wrote: »

Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect

Depends who is fit I would say, don't think he's quite first choice yet.

Great bench option mind!

bilston · 18-03-2013 1:23pm

trouttrout wrote: »

Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect

If Marshall is out then yes probably. You're he is a great talent, still only 19.

awec · 18-03-2013 1:25pm

When is Bowe due back, out of interest?

ScissorPaperRock · 18-03-2013 2:01pm

bilston wrote: »

If Marshall is out then yes probably. You're he is a great talent, still only 19.

Can he play 13 at all?

bilston · 18-03-2013 2:16pm

ScissorPaperRoc wrote: »

Can he play 13 at all?

He played there for the 20s last year and did well so why not.

the_doctor199 · 18-03-2013 2:38pm

awec wrote: »

When is Bowe due back, out of interest?

End of April, I think.

Sinbad_NI · 18-03-2013 2:38pm

Anyone know if this weekend's match is televised. Can't see it anywhere?

Great to hear some big players coming back. Will need as many of them as possible to get a shot at either cup this year.

Taco Corp · 18-03-2013 2:42pm

Sinbad_NI wrote: »

Anyone know if this weekend's match is televised. Can't see it anywhere?

Great to hear some big players coming back. Will need as many of them as possible to get a shot at either cup this year.

no host broadcaster listed on the rabo fixtures list so probably not going to be on unless there's a last minute change
http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/matchcentre/fixtures_list.php

the_doctor199 · 18-03-2013 2:43pm

If it's not live, surely it'll be on the red button then?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 18-03-2013 5:06pm

trouttrout wrote: »

Will Olding start the quarter final now? Looks a serious prospect

If Marshall is out then Olding could well start.

Payne, Trimble and Bowe (will he be back??) can play center but none of them have played 12 and Cave doesn't have much experience there afaik. Jackson can play 12 and Pienaar can play 10 but thats too many positional changes for my thinking.

Of the options available Olding at 12 looks the best to me.

the_doctor199 wrote: »

If it's not live, surely it'll be on the red button then?

Don't think so

jamiedav2011 · 18-03-2013 5:09pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

If Marshall is out then Olding could well start.

Payne, Trimble and Bowe (will he be back??) can play center but none of them have played 12 and Cave doesn't have much experience there afaik. Jackson can play 12 and Pienaar can play 10 but thats too many positional changes for my thinking.

Of the options available Olding at 12 looks the best to me.

Don't think so

Olding at 12 would be a bold but warranted move.
He's looked excellent at Rabo level so far, but defending against Barrit would be another step up.

What do Ulster posters see as his long term position?
Challenging Jackson at 10 or further out?

MolBee · 18-03-2013 5:15pm

Olding isn't in the HC squad though. Can he be added or is that it for adding/removing players?

Sinbad_NI · 18-03-2013 5:19pm

MolBee wrote: »

Olding isn't in the HC squad though. Can he be added or is that it for adding/removing players?

Think they can add 3 however 1 must be from the front row.
No idea if Olding has been added.

He was about the only positive from the last couple of defeats.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 18-03-2013 5:20pm

MolBee wrote: »

Olding isn't in the HC squad though. Can he be added or is that it for adding/removing players?

You get to add or remove 3 players now (1 has to be front row)

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Olding at 12 would be a bold but warranted move.
He's looked excellent at Rabo level so far, but defending against Barrit would be another step up.

What do Ulster posters see as his long term position?
Challenging Jackson at 10 or further out?

Mainly a Leinster fan but I'll comment.

To be honest I don't think we will see Olding cement a position. With McKinney coming home it will be difficult for him at 10. He could well end up with the utility back tag I'm afraid.

Well capable of playing 10/12/13/15 with 10/12 looking to me as his best positions to me.

awec · 18-03-2013 5:21pm

This McKinney thing confirmed?

irishbucsfan · 18-03-2013 5:21pm

I think we could be likely to see Marshall move to 13 outside Olding. I'd really like to see how that works.

irishbucsfan · 18-03-2013 5:22pm

awec wrote: »

This McKinney thing confirmed?

I think it was?

rchendz92 · 18-03-2013 5:22pm

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Olding at 12 would be a bold but warranted move.
He's looked excellent at Rabo level so far, but defending against Barrit would be another step up.

What do Ulster posters see as his long term position?
Challenging Jackson at 10 or further out?

I don't know, would it? Barrit is a great defender but is not really fast or capable of running good lines. Reasonably powerful in attack, but good angles worry defences and cause line breaks, not raw power.

As for his (Olding's) future, I'd love to see him at 12, if he can put on a bit more bulk without losing pace.

jamiedav2011 · 18-03-2013 5:23pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

You get to add or remove 3 players now (1 has to be front row)

Mainly a Leinster fan but I'll comment.

To be honest I don't think we will see Olding cement a position. With McKinney coming home it will be difficult for him at 10. He could well end up with the utility back tag I'm afraid.

Well capable of playing 10/12/13/15 with 10/12 looking to me as his best positions to me.

The McKinney move is actually a little strange, or perhaps it indicates that they see Olding as more of a 12/15.

Some serious talent coming through though.

Also, going to be a novelty to see McKinney and Heaney partnered, two guys that went away, did well in the champ and have come back.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 18-03-2013 5:27pm

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

The McKinney move is actually a little strange, or perhaps it indicates that they see Olding as more of a 12/15.

Some serious talent coming through though.

Also, going to be a novelty to see McKinney and Heaney partnered, two guys that went away, did well in the champ and have come back.

With NOC leaving Ulster won't want to go into next season with Jackson, Olding, Pienaar and Wallace. A little light and very much relying on two guys who are significantly better in other positions and one guy who no one has a clue what his best position is.

jamiedav2011 · 18-03-2013 5:29pm

rchendz92 wrote: »

I don't know, would it? Barrit is a great defender but is not really fast or capable of running good lines. Reasonably powerful in attack, but good angles worry defences and cause line breaks, not raw power.

As for his (Olding's) future, I'd love to see him at 12, if he can put on a bit more bulk without losing pace.

He'd be far more bulkier than Olding at this stage though, one on one I'd fear.
Raw power certainly can worry defences! Obviously a better player will have more strings to his bow, but look at Jamie Roberts, Basteraud, Nonu etc, all of whom wouldn't be the quickest centres out there, or the best footwork, but their pure power makes them serious weapons.

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