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2013; Eat my dust Meno!

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    #632
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    claralara wrote: »
    No, I'm gonna go with a 'carrot on a stick' type look for that one!

    Yeah I think the opportunity has passed anyway, I think I spotted him on RTE today. He may have been giving it away to Julien ;)


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    #633
    chinguetti
    Registered Users Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭chinguetti


    Brother, you forgot two things in your excellent advice to the boss.

    1. The first pint after you complete your first marathon is a pure beautiful experience that must be given a solemn moment; and

    2. The satisfaction of crossing the line lasts forever and is yours and yours alone, the pain lasts until you get to point 1 above.


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    #634
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    claralara good luck in Connamara all the hard work will pay off! :)


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    #635
    jcsmum
    Registered Users Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭jcsmum


    It's all so exciting really (nervousness aside). You've got me all excited about Cork now. Hope Cork is half as brilliant as Dublin was for me.

    You'll have a blast. Relax and enjoy every moment, all the hard work is done! :)


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    #636
    digger2d2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭digger2d2


    claralara wrote: »
    In bed, I can't sleep..:confused:

    Shhhh, stop typing, you're keeping me awake;)


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    #637
    claralara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    Wednesday 6th April
    - Yesterday was a bit of a glass half empty / step out of bed and onto a drawing pin day so for my safety and sanity I ended up giving the planned 2.5miles a miss. I had some important calories to consume and reserves to load up too so that took precedence…:)

    Thursday 7th April
    - 2.43 miles – Av Pace 9.43
    A very handy trot around the block this morning. Tummy was a bit off again but I did eat a lot of rubbish yesterday and the nerves are shot too so I shan’t worry! Back to bread and butter and plain chicken for the rest of the week I suppose!
    I liked this pace. I think I could run for quite a while at it. I’ve decided to be conservative on Sunday. I want to enjoy myself and most importantly I want to finish so I’m not thinking about time. There’ll be plenty of time to worry about that over the next few months for Dublin. Now, what if my Garmin dies before I finish?!
    I got the bus to work yesterday and I’m not going near another one until after Sunday. There were strangers breathing and coughing and sneezing and just existing generally and it upset me greatly! :mad: I also decided that the sign “Please give up this seat should an elderly or disabled person require it” should be amended to read “Please give up this seat should an elderly or disabled person or a crazy pre-race marathon runner require it”…so at least I got a seat…:rolleyes:


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    #638
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Print off one of these and put a digital watch on your other wrist, that'll keep you on pace.


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    #639
    claralara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    mrslow wrote: »
    Print off one of these and put a digital watch on your other wrist, that'll keep you on pace.

    Will I print off 14 of them - one for every minute between 4.15 and 4.29...


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    #640
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    claralara wrote: »
    Will I print off 14 of them - one for every minute between 4.15 and 4.29...

    It's just a guide smarta5s:P


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    #641
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    I prefer these pace bands. They seem much neater. Cover them with plastic sheeting or clear sellotape to make them water/sweat resistant.

    I have alreay printed off mine for 39.3 miles (6hours) as my garmin will likely go dead at 30 miles. Yes I'll be wearing two watches.

    Glad to see your OCD is showing. At this stage OCD is your friend. What is your middle name again? ;)


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    #642
    claralara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    mrslow wrote: »
    It's just a guide smarta5s:P

    I'm being serious... I reckon I could fit 7 on each arm... :rolleyes:


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    #643
    jcsmum
    Registered Users Posts: 3,156 ✭✭✭jcsmum


    Oh yeah those bands are brilliant. I used one at DCM.


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    #644
    rainbow kirby
    Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 26,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    jcsmum wrote: »
    Oh yeah those bands are brilliant. I used one at DCM.

    Ended up ripping mine off after 20 miles at DCM last year when I realised that 4:15 was gone :(

    Used the one from the expo in Barcelona though - marked for every 5k and 5 miles, twas handy.


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    #645
    claralara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    menoscemo wrote: »
    I At this stage OCD is your friend. What is your middle name again? ;)

    Crazy!!

    Ok so seriously, what time should I be printing...


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    #646
    rainbow kirby
    Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 26,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    4:15 and 4:30, most likely. "Don't go faster than this" and "Don't go slower than this" :pac:


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    #647
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    claralara wrote: »
    Crazy!!

    Ok so seriously, what time should I be printing...

    4:15:21 ;)

    Seriously though, just take your comfortable pace and multiply x 26.2, 9:30 pace would give you a 4:09 race but it's normal to slow down towards the end so going too fast at that stage shouldn't be an issue.


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    #648
    claralara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    rainbow kirby wrote: »
    4:15 and 4:30, most likely. "Don't go faster than this" and "Don't go slower than this" :pac:

    Ok, will do. That sounds good and sensible!!

    I’m very excited now…But there’s still that little big ‘but what if it all goes wrong’ worry that keeps raring it’s ugly head…Demons out!!


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    #649
    menoscemo
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    rainbow kirby wrote: »
    4:15 and 4:30, most likely. "Don't go faster than this" and "Don't go slower than this" :pac:

    Yep, I would print both of these if I were you. Dream time and Back up time.


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    #650
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    claralara wrote: »
    Ok, will do. That sounds good and sensible!!

    I’m very excited now…But there’s still that little big ‘but what if it all goes wrong’ worry that keeps raring it’s ugly head…Demons out!!

    That fear is what will fill you with adrenaline on the day and get you to the end!


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    #651
    menoscemo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    claralara wrote: »
    Ok, will do. That sounds good and sensible!!

    I’m very excited now…But there’s still that little big ‘but what if it all goes wrong’ worry that keeps raring it’s ugly head…Demons out!!

    The worst that can happen is that you have to walk a bit. Seriously, that's not so bad, you'll still be delirah when you cross the finish line.


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    #652
    claralara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    Now, on a completely unrelated note, can anyone recommend a nice hotel in Krakow?! Back to priorities… :D


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    #653
    Mr Slow
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    menoscemo wrote: »
    The worst that can happen is that you have to walk a bit. Seriously, that's not so bad, you'll still be delirah when you cross the finish line.

    I walked a few times for DCM, it makes no difference as Meno says, anyone who asked me 'Did you walk any of it?' got this response 'Have you ever covered 26.2 miles on foot in 4:15???


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    #654
    menoscemo
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    claralara wrote: »
    Now, on a completely unrelated note, can anyone recommend a nice hotel in Krakow?! Back to priorities… :D

    Does it have to be a Hotel or would a hostel be sufficient for Madam?

    I know a few nice late night bars :pac:


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    #655
    claralara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Does it have to be a Hotel or would a hostel be sufficient for Madam?

    I know a few nice late night bars :pac:

    A hotel would be preferable – I can’t imagine mumsie and pops being up for a few cans in a party hostel…


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    #656
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    claralara wrote: »
    A hotel would be preferable – I can’t imagine mumsie and pops being up for a few cans in a party hostel…

    Do you not have staff to look after your travel arrangements?


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    #657
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users Posts: 19,507 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    mrslow wrote: »
    but it's normal to slow down towards the end so going too fast at that stage shouldn't be an issue.
    Noooo!!!! It's normal to speed-up towards the end of a race. Think positive (negative split!).
    Best of luck claralara. You'll have a ball. Just remember: when you hit the small hill towards the end of the race, every step takes you one step closer to the finish line.


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    #658
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Noooo!!!! It's normal to speed-up towards the end of a race. Think positive (negative split!).
    Best of luck claralara. You'll have a ball. Just remember: when you hit the small hill towards the end of the race, every step takes you one step closer to the finish line.

    I was attempting to keep the pressure off :mad:


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    #659
    racheljev
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    Just catching up on your log missus. You're flying, best of luck on Sunday - hope 4:15 is in the bag for you.:)


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    #660
    brownian
    Registered Users Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭brownian


    I'm with KC in principle (go faster in the second half), but on this course I think you need to be going very slowly in the first half to go faster on the second. I'd be thinking of running your "flat marathon" pace for the 23-or-so flatter miles, and then realistically going a bit slower on the climbs. That does lead to a positive split (that's the one, I think, when part 2 is slower than part 1).

    That said, aiming run slower in the second half is not something I'd recommend - I'd be aiming (in fact, I WILL be aiming :) to run about the same pace on the second half, apart from slowing down (as little as possible) on the hills.

    Once at the top of the final hill, there's the bones of 2 miles left IIRC - there's no reason not to give it all you've got at this stage, though the transition from downhill to flat for the last mile is a bit odd.

    I'd certainly do my pace bands for 4:15 if you think there's any realistic chance of it (and why not!). Better to go a few minutes over 4:15 than a couple of minutes faster than 4:30.


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    #661
    Mr Slow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭Mr Slow


    brownian wrote: »
    That said, aiming run slower in the second half is not something I'd recommend

    I didn't suggest she 'aim' to run slower, I said 'it's normal to slow down towards the end' given it's her first marathon and as you pointed out - hilly.


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