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stripysocks85

Deutschlandfürimmer7 wrote: »

oh....well in that case....ill just return to the dark corner from which i eminated from

I was going to say 'This isn't AH' but it is, so I can drool if I want over him!! [Metaphorically speaking!!]

Oh and he told Miss Mary to 'close her mouth and listen' & was pulled up on it, so repeated it with 'Mary Coughlan should close her mouth and listen', or something to that effect. Perhaps I shouldn't have used quotes, as I'm not 100% that was word for word

Dionysus

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Well said by Pearse, no waffle just straight talking logic. Considering the importance of this day to our little nation, the amount of empty seats in the house was a disgrace. Those bast@rds should be there until midnight if need be.

I agree. Do they have to sign out? If so, some journalist could surely highlight the times they left. Or maybe a FOI request by any of us could get it?

Ardennes1944

stripysocks85 wrote: »

I was going to say 'This isn't AH' but it is, so I can drool if I want over him!! [Metaphorically speaking!!]

Oh and he told Miss Mary to 'close her mouth and listen' & was pulled up on it, so repeated it with 'Mary Coughlan should close her mouth and listen', or something to that effect. Perhaps I shouldn't have used quotes, as I'm not 100% that was word for word

yeah this thread has been so serious i thought it was the political category or something!

on the quote front, you got it pretty spot on:D

ascanbe

irish-stew wrote: »

He was warned a few times re his conduct and how he address individuals including may.

Cant quite remember what he said to her, but was quite blunt, he simply repaeted he self word for word only changing how he addressed her.

The house speaker seemed to allow him a bit of leeway based on his recent entry to the house following his election win.

Well my comment was based on conjuring with the idea of Biggins giving Pearse Doherty one..doubt he'd be given much leeway.
Anyway, you're right regarding the whole 'Doherty's conduct' situation.

stripysocks85

Dionysus wrote: »

hehe. Some funny feckers on this thread.

I hope you mean me haha :P

Mint Sauce

cleremy jarkson wrote: »

8 euro off the dole..lol

Should have been about 20 if we want to fix things in the long term. We'll be back again next year with another so-called "harshest budget in the history of the state" :rolleyes:

There probably will be more off next time, cuts are gradual as part of the 4 year plan.

Cookie_Monster

11.5% reduction in min wage

only 4.1% reduction in dole.

encouraging people to get back to work...

Ardennes1944

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

11.5% reduction in min wage

only 4.1% reduction in dole.

encouraging people to get back to work...

11.5% of 8.65 is alot less than 4% of...whatever figure the dole is. aint it?
im on minimum wage myself

FreudianSlippers

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

11.5% reduction in min wage

only 4.1% reduction in dole.

encouraging people to get back to work...

Minimum wage workers are exempt from the tax net now though.

Reduction in minimum wage could also open more job opportunities... it's all about competition.

The problem is, as long as we have the people around thinking they're entitled to loads of money for free from the state, nobody will work.

Mint Sauce

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

11.5% reduction in min wage

only 4.1% reduction in dole.

encouraging people to get back to work...

The really interesting stat is the low number actually earning the minimum wage. Like the inflated live register figures alot of lower wage earners hourly wage are probably rounded up to the nearest euro, so statisically, they are not on the minimum wage.

(if that makes sense)

Cookie_Monster

Deutschlandfürimmer7 wrote: »

11.5% of 8.65 is alot less than 4% of...whatever figure the dole is. aint it?
im on minimum wage myself

on 25 hours is -25 quid, on a full week its -39. dole is -8

min wage workers are probably on average taking 3-4 times the cut :mad: and have to be working for it too.

ardinn

Does anyone else not think pierce Doherty behaves like a big Fascist Dictator - everyone here seems to love him - Speeches like that are great - hitler used to do it all the time. Be careful at the next GE....

My name is URL

Jaysus.. any excuse for a Godwin

Heavens forbid a politician displays any sort of passion in what they say!

Cookie_Monster

My name is URL wrote: »

Jaysus.. any excuse for a Godwin

May as well get it out of the way

ardinn

My name is URL wrote: »

Jaysus.. any excuse for a Godwin

Heavens forbid a politician displays any sort of passion in what they say!

No, just an observation from his 43 minute tirade!

hmmm

Have they said how they intend to tax internet bookies? They do realise that Joe Bookies Inc of the Cayman Islands couldn't care less how much tax Ireland tries to levy on them? This will hurt Irish bookies and push punters towards those overseas, stupidity.

K-9

OisinT wrote: »

Tax Tables are out: http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1207/budget-tax.pdf

The cuts for Married couples seem proportionate. Poor single lad on about 25k is going to see a 5% cut or so.

http://yfrog.com/1gsinglepersonp

Biggins

ardinn wrote: »

No, just an observation from his 43 minute tirade!

It was far better than Lenihans time of waffle of excuses, PR spin and bullschite!

I know which one I preferred.

FreudianSlippers

K-9 wrote: »

The cuts for Married couples seem proportionate. Poor single lad on about 25k is going to see a 5% cut or so.

http://yfrog.com/1gsinglepersonp

Single self employed people like me are getting raped

I should basically work less and make the same amount.

K-9

K-9 wrote: »

The cuts for Married couples seem proportionate. Poor single lad on about 25k is going to see a 5% cut or so.

http://yfrog.com/1gsinglepersonp

Married Couple, 1 Income, no children:
http://img227.imageshack.us/f/married1income.png/

Married Couple, I Income, 2 Children:
http://img508.imageshack.us/f/married1income2children.png/

Single Person:
http://img52.imageshack.us/f/singleperson.png/

cherryghost

Whoa. The motion was barely passed

johnn

F'n Hell only 8euro off the Dole?! I thought/was hoping they were going to halve the thing FFS. Sure they'll have to buy Foster's with their dole now instead of Heineken the poor feckers :rolleyes:

Tell me they at least mentioned bringing in that scheme were they must provide a public service to collect their dole like sweeping the streets/painting walls/picking up shit etc.

There'll be a load of smug fuckers on the dole tonight toasting another budget well done. Whilst honest workers like me pay the price, every single dole scrounger gets away scot free.....oh sorry i mean they lost 8 quid :cool:

Kev_ps3

ardinn wrote: »

Does anyone else not think pierce Doherty behaves like a big Fascist Dictator - everyone here seems to love him - Speeches like that are great - hitler used to do it all the time. Be careful at the next GE....

You smoking crack?

flahavaj

I wonder was Bertie Ahern there to listen to the state he has left the country in? Bet he wasn't.

FreudianSlippers

flahavaj wrote: »

I wonder was Bertie Ahern there to listen to the state he has left the country in? Bet he wasn't.

I'm pretty sure he was.

Biggins

flahavaj wrote: »

I wonder was Bertie Ahern there to listen to the state he has left the country in? Bet he wasn't.

He was there but he was mute and keeping his head down.
As soon as Lenihan had finished, he (and a good few) scarpered.

ardinn

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

You smoking crack?

I was but its gone up 8%, cant afford it any more

rainbowtrout

Rodin wrote: »

Presumably this budget means very little, as any incoming government in January will put their own in place fairly quickly

Probably not. Michael Noonan said on the 6 o'clock news that basically there was very little room for manoeuvre if they did get in. There won't be any radical changes to the budget.

flahavaj

Biggins wrote: »

He was there but he was mute and keeping his head down.

As well he should. I actually hate him and blame him for everything.

Biggins

ardinn wrote: »

I was but its gone up 8%, cant afford it any more

Thats the increased transport fuel charges for you!
Smuggling it in the back of a dodgy van isn't cheap ya know! :pac: