Prolonged cold spell on the way

gothwalk

metrovelvet wrote: »

Oh right. So all the people with babies due in January can get screwed.

Dude, take the anger elsewhere. No amount of hoping or not hoping will affect the weather one whit. I like snow and cold; I know how to deal with it, having spent time in colder climates in winter, and it does no harm to you for me to say that I hope it snows, any more than it does to me for you to say you hope it doesn't.

If you've a kid due in January, plan accordingly; those of us who know what to do in winter can give you some advice. But giving out to people for the weather they'd like to see is two steps past pointless.

H2UMrsRobinson

There's 'nout so divisive as a difference of opinion!

K-9

Avns1s wrote: »

That's a bit harsh don't you think. I am sure not even the most enthusiastic weather fan would wish any hardship on any expectant mother or her new arrival.

Whatever about the ambulances being challenged, there is no excuse for the oil truck not being able to get to homes. My view on it is that a small bit of forward planning would ensure that the oil truck would not be needed as the tank should be adequately full in advance of the cold weather, particularly if access is via hilly side roads. Plan ahead!

Ambulances are a serious problem though, experienced bother with that last year too. Plus if anything does happen, visiting people in hospitals is difficult and when my Dad passed away during the cold spell in early January, a nightmare for organising wakes, funerals etc.

I love snow btw!

Min

When they are giving snow and ice I just get in a lot of food, stick some in the freezer and be prepared for the worse.
On a steep hill so can get snowed in and last winter there was just lots of ice on the road and an invisible county council clearing the roads......that is what we pay our road tax for...to grit roads we don't use.

I think it's going to be a long winter, not looking forward to it but nothing can be done in regards to the weather, just be prepared.

We were lucky last winter we didn't get the end of March blizzard in January as the snow would have lasted for a few months...

So can we expect any snow on higher ground next week?

Min

Ok, MetEireann says sleet and snow showers next week on hills and mountains for the north and east.

Looks like we are into winter proper now.

200motels

Roll on the Winter and maybe just maybe we might get some proper snow this time down here.

maquiladora

Min wrote: »

Ok, MetEireann says sleet and snow showers next week on hills and mountains for the north and east.

Looks like we are into winter proper now.

Yep.

Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of next week will be very cold days with daytime temperatures ranging from about 4 to 7 degrees. The nights will be very cold also with widespread sharp or severe frosts. Many areas will be dry with good sunshine. However showers will develop near north and east coasts. These will turn wintry as the week goes on, falling as sleet and possibly as snow on hills and mountains, especially at night.

Deep Easterly

Deep Easterly wrote: »

The end of November 2008 saw max temps struggling to reach 0c in parts of the midlands and east esp. As Wolfe said, this was due to persistant fog during the day.
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I know but isn't that whats known as and I hate to use the word "faux cold" in that it goes the minute the fog lifts or precip moves in and you have rain.
Cold near the ground unfortunately does not make what most people want ..snow
An interesting couple of months if not weeks ahead nonetheless.

maquiladora

06Z GFS is making this upcoming cold spell look increasingly dry.

Speak Now

maquiladora wrote: »

06Z GFS is making this upcoming cold spell look increasingly dry.

That's good news, nice Christmas shopping weather

Min

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

That's good news, nice Christmas shopping weather

Imagine if we got lots of snow and no presents :eek:

Speak Now

Min wrote: »

Imagine if we got lots of snow and no presents :eek:

Would be the best present for lots of us

Iancar29

In light of the winter to come ... we just hav to look across the ocean to be jealous , as ITS ONLY NOVEMBER..!

http://www.webcamsinnorway.com/webcams.php?viewcam=1858

NOT FAIR

nacho libre

Personally i'm looking forward to some cold and dry weather. I've had enough wet weather for a while. Anyway as we all know sustained cold increases the chances of sleet and snow eventually falling in some parts of the country.

Redsunset

Underneath my tree outside on christmas morning i want my a big white present that stretches across the land

maquiladora

Latest UKMO outlook keeps it cold right way out to Dec 17th with "wintry precipitation at times for many areas" in the UK.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

Doesn't agree with the GFS which shows a breakdown happening before the end of November. Still all very much up in the air

Rabble Rabble

I see Dublin at 11 this morning, and its gets down to the lowest daily max of 7 next week. Thats below average, but nothing to indicate a very strong cold spell. When is the real cold spell.

nacho libre

maquiladora wrote: »

I wouldn't be splashing out on winter gear just yet. Still every chance we could be in for nothing more than a frosty/dry or wet/overcast winter.

the ukmo monthly update, which is fairly promising from the perspective of a snow lover, is usually fairly accurate - they, if i'm not mistaken, use the ecm model, which seems to be better at handling blocking than the gfs. the gfs seems to throw wobblers only to later back ecm ouput..


that said if the ecm suddenly backs the gfs i will share your pessismism. as it would indicate, despite the promising background signals, that Stuart Rampling(the chief netweather forecaster) maybe right about a toppling or mid-latitude high being the dominant feature of December.

Although, it's worth mentioning that M.T. cranium's colleague, Blast from the past' has said that he expected blocking may well fail in November due to a sinking high, but that as we go in to December a blocking pattern would eventually emerge and hold- but for how long;)

we shall see.

WolfeIRE

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Article/201009115817178

snow on the way, for eastern parts of uk.

WolfeIRE

Looking at the charts for nextw eek I think most of us are in for a dry and settled week with some locally severe frosts with the possibility of fog lingering through much of the morning greater as we reach midweek.

Any wintry outbreak in the east and north would be more likely towards the end of the week and into the weekend after next. The Dublin/Wicklow mts and high ground in Kilkenny (yes Min:D) are almost certain to see some snow showers come the end of next week.

maquiladora

Really annoying to see that high sink down over us and the really cold air head down south into central europe, I hope the GFS is wrong. :pac: UKMO looks a bit better at 144 but the high is still starting to sink, just not as fast as the GFS. Fingers crossed that 12Z ECM is better.

Tabnabs

Iancar29 wrote: »

In light of the winter to come ... we just hav to look across the ocean to be jealous , as ITS ONLY NOVEMBER..!

http://www.webcamsinnorway.com/webcams.php?viewcam=1858

NOT FAIR

Lolz, if you don't like that one, then don't click this link

http://www.bt.no/kamera/article147.ece

Looks best in daylight

WolfeIRE

maquiladora wrote: »

Really annoying to see that high sink down over us and the really cold air head down south into central europe, I hope the GFS is wrong. :pac: UKMO looks a bit better at 144 but the high is still starting to sink, just not as fast as the GFS. Fingers crossed that 12Z ECM is better.

the problem here maq is the high over greenland and the other over northern scandanavia are squeezing the high over iceland, causing it to sink. The other possibility is that this high does sink to our south and at the same time the scandanavian and greenland highs track southwards somewhat. this would offset any ground made by atlantic low systems towards ireland.

maquiladora

WolfeIRE wrote: »

the problem here maq is the high over greenland and the other over northern scandanavia are squeezing the high over iceland, causing it to sink. The other possibility is that this high does sink to our south and at the same time the scandanavian and greenland highs track southwards somewhat. this would offset any ground made by atlantic low systems towards ireland.

I'd just like to see that high pressure further west and the -8 uppers taking a route that brings them over us. :pac:

Still, it's only November, can't really be expecting much this early I know...

Gonzo

will propably be a non event for most/all of us, nothing more than a few frosts and the odd rain/sleet shower. Still too early in the season for something decent i think.

Kippure

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Ecm good so far, Nice easterly.

maquiladora

ECM is giving us a better run than the GFS anyway. Out as far as 144, anything beyond this is getting deeper into FI and highly likely to change anyway but should be interesting to see.

maquiladora

12Z ECM in FI for this time of year is as good as you could hope for really. Wow.

Redsunset

I can't wait to go home and see these heavenly charts.stupid work gettin in way of me winter watch

nacho libre

maquiladora wrote: »

12Z ECM in FI for this time of year is as good as you could hope for really. Wow.

are you referring to this chart: