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Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 4:34pm

Got an Xbox 360 here no power at all completely dead, no visible shorts inside the case or on the motherboard I am stumped

any suggestions? PSU is fine as it works on every other Xbox.

Myrddin · 02-04-2012 4:44pm

justryan wrote: »

Got an Xbox 360 here no power at all completely dead, no visible shorts inside the case or on the motherboard I am stumped any suggestions? PSU is fine as it works on every other Xbox.

Have you tried these?

TouchingVirus · 02-04-2012 4:44pm

The SMC is wrong?

Jimbobjoeyman · 02-04-2012 4:48pm

could need a southbridge reflow.
Or as I saw lately from someone on the CVX repair forums they had this problem and reflowed the hana chip and it worked

On a totally unrelated note -
Removing a nand chip by hand is a pain.
Should have removed a few with hot air before I sold my rework station

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 4:56pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Have you tried these?

Your on a roll today

Myrddin · 02-04-2012 4:58pm

justryan wrote: »

Your on a roll today

Must drink less cola

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 4:58pm

TouchingVirus wrote: »

The SMC is wrong?

Could be smc but it isn't modded and the owner said he didn't turn it off during an update just happened out of the blue.

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 4:59pm

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

could need a southbridge reflow.
Or as I saw lately from someone on the CVX repair forums they had this problem and reflowed the hana chip and it worked

On a totally unrelated note -
Removing a nand chip by hand is a pain.
Should have removed a few with hot air before I sold my rework station

Are you going to try the dual nand hack?

Jimbobjoeyman · 02-04-2012 5:01pm

justryan wrote: »

Are you going to try the dual nand hack?

TRY is the word

Did you take it of by hand or did you use hot air ?

Jimbobjoeyman · 02-04-2012 5:01pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Must drink less cola

Yes umm .....cola

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 5:03pm

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

TRY is the word

Ah the dual nand hack, where few men have gone before may the force be with you

Jimbobjoeyman · 02-04-2012 5:12pm

justryan wrote: »

Ah the dual nand hack, where few men have gone before may the force be with you

Well I was thinking of doing it a little differently to your one.
I was thinking of wiring it to the back of the board in the same points were a cygnos would be installed.

Still just looking into it as of yet

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 5:15pm

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

Well I was thinking of doing it a little differently to your one.
I was thinking of wiring it to the back of the board in the same points were a cygnos would be installed.

Still just looking into it as of yet

I dont think it works that way just a heads up

Jimbobjoeyman · 02-04-2012 5:17pm

justryan wrote: »

I dont think it works that way just a heads up

Thanks for the heads up.
Just throwing out ideas out loud on what would be the easiest way to do this.

The XD card mod can be wired into the back of the board... an option maybe ?

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 5:57pm

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

justryan wrote: »

I dont think it works that way just a heads up

Thanks for the heads up.
Just throwing out ideas out loud on what would be the easiest way to do this.

The XD card mod can be wired into the back of the board... an option maybe ?

Yeah but it's more cost effective to do the nandwich I couldn't get my head around the xd card method and wanted to work with what I had available.

Once you get over the learning curve of attaching the donor nand and making sure there is continuity in the pins then your good to go.

Jimbobjoeyman · 02-04-2012 6:13pm

justryan wrote: »

Yeah but it's more cost effective to do the nandwich I couldn't get my head around the xd card method and wanted to work with what I had available.

Once you get over the learning curve of attaching the donor nand and making sure there is continuity in the pins then your good to go.

I'll have a look into the XD card mod it seems to be the easiest way about it.

Out of curiosity how did you get the nand chips off,
I was flooding the legs with solder and trying to remove the nand chip then

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 6:28pm

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

I'll have a look into the XD card mod it seems to be the easiest way about it.

Out of curiosity how did you get the nand chips off,
I was flooding the legs with solder and trying to remove the nand chip then

You really need a heat gun to desolder the nand chip, put some paste flux along the pins, preheat the area at 140 degress and slowly climb to 450 degress the nand should come up very easily at this heat. It also helps to wedge something underneath the nand to stop it sticking to the pads while you work on the other side.

Jimbobjoeyman · 02-04-2012 6:30pm

justryan wrote: »

You really need a heat gun to desolder the nand chip, put some paste flux along the pins, preheat the area at 140 degress and slowly climb to 450 degress the nand should come up very easily at this heat. It also helps to wedge something underneath the nand to stop it sticking to the pads while you work on the other side.

That's what I was thinking.

Must buy a heatgun for myself now if I decide on the nandwich :eek:

Never thought I'd be using one of them on a xbox

Reamer Fanny · 02-04-2012 6:47pm

I use the heat gun on my rework station, as long as it has temperature control you should be fine remember to use plenty of flux as it will help conduct the heat.

docentore · 03-04-2012 6:41am

justryan wrote: »

I use the heat gun on my rework station, as long as it has temperature control you should be fine remember to use plenty of flux as it will help conduct the heat.

I've got one of them

the work great on nands , tsops etc

EDIT: btw, I mentioned few times that I have 1 or 2 spare 16mb xd cards in anyone is interested

docentore · 03-04-2012 6:44am

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up.
Just throwing out ideas out loud on what would be the easiest way to do this.

The XD card mod can be wired into the back of the board... an option maybe ?

check again 2 usb ports. I bought few machines without power at allm the had some pieces of metal shorting +5V in usb port

Jimbobjoeyman · 03-04-2012 11:09am

docentore wrote: »

I've got one of them

the work great on nands , tsops etc

EDIT: btw, I mentioned few times that I have 1 or 2 spare 16mb xd cards in anyone is interested

Yeah I had one of them nozzles for my rework station before I sold it.
Very handy nozzle for salvaging bits and pieces alright.

Might be interested in the XD card,
I'll look into the mod a bit more and I'll pm you if I decide to go ahead with the mod.
Thanks

Reamer Fanny · 03-04-2012 4:29pm

docentore wrote: »

check again 2 usb ports. I bought few machines without power at allm the had some pieces of metal shorting +5V in usb port

Doc you are a genius looked at USB port in the front and two of the pins were bent back touching the metal casing, I bent them back to normal position and the console boots fine!

Jimbobjoeyman · 03-04-2012 6:15pm

justryan wrote: »

Doc you are a genius looked at USB port in the front and two of the pins were bent back touching the metal casing, I bent them back to normal position and the console boots fine!

.....your slipping ryan

I presumed that was the first thing you checked lol

You should break the pins off in the port or fill it with hot glue or the same thing will happen again as the ports damaged.
Either that or replace the port.

And most people charge €40 for no power repair :P

Reamer Fanny · 03-04-2012 6:33pm

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

justryan wrote: »

Doc you are a genius looked at USB port in the front and two of the pins were bent back touching the metal casing, I bent them back to normal position and the console boots fine!

.....your slipping ryan
I presumed that the first thing you checked lol

You should break the pins off in the port or fill it with hot glue or the same thing will happen again as the ports damaged.
Either that or replace the port.

And most people charge €40 for no power repair :P

Haha thanks to doc I'm €40 richer, I put some insulating tape over the USB port and told the owner not to use it.

Myrddin · 03-04-2012 6:50pm

justryan wrote: »

Haha thanks to doc I'm €40 richer, I put some insulating tape over the USB port and told the owner not to use it.

Insulating tape makes Touching Virus cry

Jimbobjoeyman · 03-04-2012 6:58pm

justryan wrote: »

Haha thanks to doc I'm €40 richer, I put some insulating tape over the USB port and told the owner not to use it.

I did that once or twice then the owners child plugged a play and charge kit in and shorted it again.

So after that I always just broke the pins off in the port and told the owner that I "disabled" the port

No problems after that

No power in general is a handy repair

Reamer Fanny · 03-04-2012 7:09pm

It's the first time I'd seen this kind of short, I know there is a similar short problem were the fans turn a quarter of the way with flashing red lights.

Did TV have a bad experience with insulating tape?

Myrddin · 03-04-2012 8:53pm

justryan wrote: »

Did TV have a bad experience with I insulating tape?

Lol, not that I know of. I imagine he shudders at the thought of a repair involving it though

docentore · 04-04-2012 7:40am

Jimbobjoeyman wrote: »

.....your slipping ryan
I presumed that was the first thing you checked lol

You should break the pins off in the port or fill it with hot glue or the same thing will happen again as the ports damaged.
Either that or replace the port.

And most people charge €40 for no power repair :P

hot air and swap the ports with some scrap one

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