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Why is there such a pathological hatred of cats in Irish society?
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I wasn't a huge fan of cats until I got some of my own. I had the pretty standard view of them as aloof and unaffectionate, but never the bizarre description given by most Irish people as "sneaky"
Most people keep their cats outdoors and don't really interact with them more than a few minutes a day. We spend a lot of time with ours and have done since they were kittens. As a result they are hugely affectionate and each has a totally individual personality and they are terrific pets. Early socialisation is very important, much as with, oh, people for example...
People wonder why their ignored and neglected cats don't interact with them, have they ever seen a feral child??0 -
Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »Forget it, you're too old to get the joke.:rolleyes:
Oh I see it's a joke now? Funny the way assumptions and mis-interpretations are always promoted to "joke" level when posters are asked to justify them
You've been caught out in an unfounded assumption, perhaps judging others by your standards (where everything has to be a reference to sex) and you dont want to admit that you were, in fact, wrong. There were no sexual references or implications in my post, just what you chose to see.
Your "joke" by the way was one I predicted :rolleyes:0 -
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OldNotWIse wrote: »Oh I see it's a joke now? Funny the way assumptions and mis-interpretations are always promoted to "joke" level when posters are asked to justify them
You've been caught out in an unfounded assumption, perhaps judging others by your standards (where everything has to be a reference to sex) and you dont want to admit that you were, in fact, wrong. There were no sexual references or implications in my post, just what you chose to see.
Your "joke" by the way was one I predicted :rolleyes:
Let me quote what you posted, you seem to be so old you cannot remember.
Scumlord posted about washing hands after petting dogs.You quoted him saying you caught more diseases off humans than dogs :pac:
I posted jokingly (the smiley is a clue BTW), how many dogs have you rode, because surely you're not suggesting you have caught diseases from touching humans?
If the humans you have been near have given you dieseases by touch, it's no wonder you surround yourself by cats and dogs.:p
Another joke BTW ^^^^:pac:0 -
nyarlothothep wrote: »Cats are introverted animals, given that the majority of people in Ireland are screaming extroverts they hate the animal because they can't understand it. Dogs are liked because they are extremely extroverted animals, in many cases too much, for example having a dog run up to you and paw you is annoying, considering dogs are usually dirty and in any case who wants a strange animal invading your space and doing that to you when you're going about your merry way minding your own business in your own world. Its like someone waking you up by screaming in your ear, the reaction is fck off. Cats don't do this. I prefer cats for this reason, so much less of a pain in the ass. They don't bark at you, chase after you, bite you etc.
Or maybe Irish people see dogs as their kind of kindred spirit given that we are all Irish people are passive aggressive, and all dogs are passive aggressive
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"It's cool to hate cats :cool:"
:rolleyes: Ireland is such a dog centric culture that hating cats is almost a mandatory prerequisite of having dogs!
The number of people who "hate cats" without being able to give a valid reason is absolutely staggering.
Dogs are nice, but their love is unconditional, you don't have to work for it. Cats are just as loving if you treat them well. They are quiet animals who like their own time, and I think much of the hate towards cats is based on the fact that they do not behave like dogs.
My gf hated cats all her life. Never liked them. I had cats growing up and always wanted one, but never thought I would given the OHs feelings. On holidays a month ago, we minded an apartment for a friend for a week and all we had to do was feed the cat. For the first 2 days, my gf was standoffish and the cat was the same. Once my gf started to stroke the cat, they developed a great friendship.
We now have a cat of our own. Right now, the gf is on the couch with the cat cuddled up beside her. I'm stunned we have a cat, and my gf never though she would like cats, let alone own and love one to bits.0 -
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"It's cool to hate cats :cool:"
:rolleyes: Ireland is such a dog centric culture that hating cats is almost a mandatory prerequisite of having dogs!
The number of people who "hate cats" without being able to give a valid reason is absolutely staggering.
Dogs are nice, but their love is unconditional, you don't have to work for it. Cats are just as loving if you treat them well. They are quiet animals who like their own time, and I think much of the hate towards cats is based on the fact that they do not behave like dogs.
My gf hated cats all her life. Never liked them. I had cats growing up and always wanted one, but never thought I would given the OHs feelings. On holidays a month ago, we minded an apartment for a friend for a week and all we had to do was feed the cat. For the first 2 days, my gf was standoffish and the cat was the same. Once my gf started to stroke the cat, they developed a great friendship.
We now have a cat of our own. Right now, the gf is on the couch with the cat cuddled up beside her. I'm stunned we have a cat, and my gf never though she would like cats, let alone own and love one to bits.
Good point, a lot of people who claim to hate cats dont really know much about them, or think they are all the same. I've never met two the same
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"It's cool to hate cats :cool:"
:rolleyes: Ireland is such a dog centric culture that hating cats is almost a mandatory prerequisite of having dogs!
The number of people who "hate cats" without being able to give a valid reason is absolutely staggering.
Yeah there is definitely an element of going with the crowd for a lot of people, I reckon.They are quiet animals who like their own time, and I think much of the hate towards cats is based on the fact that they do not behave like dogs.
+1. I'm a huge fan of both dogs and cats (cats just shade it for favourite) and I celebrate their differences. And cats and dogs interacting can be very funny! 0 -
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It looks like this is an old thread that has been bumped, so I have read none of the previous posts bar the OP and a few immediately after.
I just spent ages this morning cleaning vile stinking cat-sh1t off my son's runners before school, and now have to do the same with his sister's shoes, so perhaps my immediate response is an emotive one.
I don't like cats much, although I can sometimes see what makes them appealing as pets.
I prefer dogs, but I don't own one because I don't want the extra responsibility.
If I have any antipathy towards any species it's towards the human beings who keep cats and dogs, but who don't take on the obligations that pet ownership entails.
If pathology is an appropriate word, then perhaps in Ireland there all too many people with a pathological disregard for civic responsibility and the consequences of their choices and actions.
The rampant dog fouling on footpaths, green areas and in private gardens is a case in point. There are dozens of cats prowling my neighbourhood, skulking around at night, sh:tting in other people's gardens, destroying plants (like my Nepeta) and of course threatening wildlife. None has a bell on, and few if any are neutered. The males prowl the same routes constantly and spray as they go, stinking out my shed in the process. Some of the females have apparently not been neutered, and so there has been more than one brood born in the 'wild'. Their owners have made no attempt to keep their cats at home, which is where these pets belong.
"Domestic" cats, and their more feral relatives, cause significant harm to wildlife. This is itself an emotive subject, and there isn't general agreement that cats are causing a significant decline in species of birds and mammals. Research at the University of Reading suggests that, annually, domestic cats in the UK could be responsible for killing up to 2,500 prey animals per km2 in urban areas, significantly affecting some urban bird species.
A 1997 survey conducted by the Mammal Society in the UK estimated that the population of approximately 9 million 'British' cats at the time brought home in the order of 92 million prey items in the study period, including 57 million mammals, 27 million birds and 5 million reptiles and amphibians. That was 92 million animals brought home by domestic cats in a 5-month period, ie not eaten or left where they were killed."What very few people realise is that cats are some of the most efficient predators out there. We may have domesticated them, but that instinct is in there, and cats have caused more damage to endemic ecosystems worldwide than any other animal." ~Birgit Buhleier, National Geographic naturalist.
Now, I must go and finish scraping off that cat sh:t...
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OldNotWIse wrote: »I've caught more diseases from people that I have from dogs
Dogging and having a dog as a pet are two different thinks.0 -
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Iwannahurl wrote: »It looks like this is an old thread that has been bumped, so I have read none of the previous posts bar the OP and a few immediately after.
I just spent ages this morning cleaning vile stinking cat-sh1t off my son's runners before school, and now have to do the same with his sister's shoes, so perhaps my immediate response is an emotive one.
I don't like cats much, although I can sometimes see what makes them appealing as pets.
I prefer dogs, but I don't own one because I don't want the extra responsibility.
If I have any antipathy towards any species it's towards the human beings who keep cats and dogs, but who don't take on the obligations that pet ownership entails.
If pathology is an appropriate word, then perhaps in Ireland there all too many people with a pathological disregard for civic responsibility and the consequences of their choices and actions.
The rampant dog fouling on footpaths, green areas and in private gardens is a case in point. There are dozens of cats prowling my neighbourhood, skulking around at night, sh:tting in other people's gardens, destroying plants (like my Nepeta) and of course threatening wildlife. None has a bell on, and few if any are neutered. The males prowl the same routes constantly and spray as they go, stinking out my shed in the process. Some of the females have apparently not been neutered, and so there has been more than one brood born in the 'wild'. Their owners have made no attempt to keep their cats at home, which is where these pets belong.
"Domestic" cats, and their more feral relatives, cause significant harm to wildlife. This is itself an emotive subject, and there isn't general agreement that cats are causing a significant decline in species of birds and mammals. Research at the University of Reading suggests that, annually, domestic cats in the UK could be responsible for killing up to 2,500 prey animals per km2 in urban areas, significantly affecting some urban bird species.
A 1997 survey conducted by the Mammal Society in the UK estimated that the population of approximately 9 million 'British' cats at the time brought home in the order of 92 million prey items in the study period, including 57 million mammals, 27 million birds and 5 million reptiles and amphibians. That was 92 million animals brought home by domestic cats in a 5-month period, ie not eaten or left where they were killed."What very few people realise is that cats are some of the most efficient predators out there. We may have domesticated them, but that instinct is in there, and cats have caused more damage to endemic ecosystems worldwide than any other animal." ~Birgit Buhleier, National Geographic naturalist.Now, I must go and finish scraping off that cat sh:t...
Interesting re the predator aspect. I am in agreement with you re how people let their cats roam indiscriminately. Other cat owners (and indeed even posters here) will attack you for saying you do not let your cats roam free It's socially acceptable to "have" a cat, feed it once a day and then kick it out while you go to work, allowing it to p1ss and sh1t all over your neighbours garden, be at risk of attack from other animals (or disgruntled neighbours lol) and traffic, and at night, males going off in searh of a bit of sex, as well as females being impregnated and adding to the generally already high cat population.
I believe a lot of people who have cats only have them because they want a dog without the responsibilites0 -
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