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The government rumoured to be nationalising AIB

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    In fairness in any best case scenario the Gov will end up owning above 70% of AIB.... This is old news for anyone in the know...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    David McWilliams on VB, it has been leaked to the FT this evenin that the gov have purchased 70% of AIB for €3bilIion! AIB only worth 600m!!

    On twitter. What did the gov spend? 6.45am tomorrow news will out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    What was it originally?

    Politicians have sold us out we know but now these self serving pricks are about to buy 600M of shares for 3Billion - bank nationalised by a bankrupt country - take your money out today!!

    What about those of us with loans to AIB?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Stinicker wrote: »
    No problem, however I now expect people to lose everything tomorrow.

    I better put my car keys in a different pocket than my phone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    sligopark wrote: »
    ok now we need to start shooting and stabbing our politicians
    No, we don't.
    Just hold them accountable is a good start.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    So, if Lenihan is willing to pay 3 billion for somethinbg worth 600 million, how much more is my house worth under FF's magical valuation system? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    sligopark wrote: »
    Politicians have sold us out we know but now these self serving pricks are about to buy 600M of shares for 3Billion - bank nationalised by a bankrupt country - take your money out today!!

    What about those of us with loans to AIB?

    You will continue to pay it back... Aka business as usual....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    sligopark wrote: »
    Politicians have sold us out we know but now these self serving pricks are about to buy 600M of shares for 3Billion - bank nationalised by a bankrupt country - take your money out today!!
    If the state is going to own a majority share in the bank, wouldn't that make deposits more, not less, safe?
    sligopark wrote: »
    What about those of us with loans to AIB?
    You still have them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Biggins wrote: »
    Just hold them accountable is a good start.

    ROLMFAO

    How do you see that working?

    LOL LOL LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    This is Ireland's largest internet forum.

    I do remember the queues of people on a bank run for Northern Rock after Liveline. Where there was no issue at all.
    Boards.ie has the potential to access more people then RTÉ radio, well purely because hundreds of thousands of office workers have access to it during office hours but not that many listen to radio in work.

    So all I'd say is if an OP is going to start a hysterical thread then better have their facts right.
    And not like that thread a few weeks back "my mate works in BOI and there are queues of people withdrawing what they have". I'm paraphrasing there.
    That's how you start panic

    Me, I have my money in AIB and it's safe there.
    And the rest in Rabobank, guranteed by the Dutch Central Bank.
    I opened that account six years ago when Rabobank had best saver interest rates, now they are terrible.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    sligopark wrote: »
    ROLMFAO

    How do you see that working?

    LOL LOL LOL
    Better than starting a stupid bank run with scaremongering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    galwayrush wrote: »
    So, if Lenihan is willing to pay 3 billion for somethinbg worth 600 million, how much more is my house worth under FF's magical valuation system? :rolleyes:


    About two-fiddy.

    Most people knew that AIB needed a further €3bn in capital, all they've done here is a share swap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Biggins wrote: »
    Thats scaremongering.
    Everyones money is state guaranteed up to a certain figure.
    (Which I think is €100,000)

    Much better person who are deeper into these financial areas should be able to confirm the exact figure.

    I'm leaving my accounts with the AIB right where they are. I'm not worried.

    Correct.
    Stinicker wrote: »
    The state itself is bankrupt and can't guarantee sh1t. The safest place for money is in an offshore bank now.

    Incorrect.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    sligopark wrote: »

    What about those of us with loans to AIB?
    Day to day banking will carry on BAU, just as it would have done two years ago before the banksters scared the government shítless into giving them all our taxes for the next decade or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    galwayrush wrote: »
    So, if Lenihan is willing to pay 3 billion for somethinbg worth 600 million, how much more is my house worth under FF's magical valuation system? :rolleyes:

    600 million won't recap Aib.... The gov is paying 3 billion to recap and taking a 70% share. Regards if they bought Aib at Market cost they would still have to recap the bank.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    What was it originally?


    "Withdraw your money now, buy a canoe & paddle fast."

    Something along those lines.

    I'm off to add some amusing tags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭dasdog


    The most telling five words from that VB programme (McWilliams):

    Anglo is not a bank


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    What need you, being come to sense,
    But fumble in a greasy till
    And add the halfpence to the pence
    And prayer to shivering prayer, until
    You have dried the marrow from the bone;
    For men were born to pray and save;
    Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
    It's with O'Leary in the grave.

    Yet they were of a different kind,
    The names that stilled your childish play,
    They have gone about the world like wind,
    But little time had they to pray
    For whom the hangman's rope was spun,
    And what, God help us, could they save?
    Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
    It's with O'Leary in the grave.

    Was it for this the wild geese spread
    The grey wing upon every tide;
    For this that all that blood was shed,
    For this Edward Fitzgerald died,
    And Robert Emmet and Wolfe Tone,
    All that delirium of the brave?
    Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
    It's with O'Leary in the grave.

    Yet could we turn the years again,
    And call those exiles as they were
    In all their loneliness and pain,
    You'd cry `Some woman's yellow hair
    Has maddened every mother's son':
    They weighed so lightly what they gave.
    But let them be, they're dead and gone,
    They're with O'Leary in the grave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    What need you, being come to sense,
    But fumble in a greasy till
    And add the halfpence to the pence
    And prayer to shivering prayer, until
    You have dried the marrow from the bone;
    For men were born to pray and save;
    Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
    It's with O'Leary in the grave.

    Yet they were of a different kind,
    The names that stilled your childish play,
    They have gone about the world like wind,
    But little time had they to pray
    For whom the hangman's rope was spun,
    And what, God help us, could they save?
    Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
    It's with O'Leary in the grave.

    Was it for this the wild geese spread
    The grey wing upon every tide;
    For this that all that blood was shed,
    For this Edward Fitzgerald died,
    And Robert Emmet and Wolfe Tone,
    All that delirium of the brave?
    Romantic Ireland's dead and gone,
    It's with O'Leary in the grave.

    Yet could we turn the years again,
    And call those exiles as they were
    In all their loneliness and pain,
    You'd cry `Some woman's yellow hair
    Has maddened every mother's son':
    They weighed so lightly what they gave.
    But let them be, they're dead and gone,
    They're with O'Leary in the grave.


    Oh for f*cks sake.

    Is this really necessary?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    sligopark wrote: »
    ROLMFAO

    How do you see that working?

    LOL LOL LOL

    By general election maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Biggins wrote: »
    Better than starting a stupid bank run with scaremongering.

    Agreed cos the public have been robbed already no getting away from it really


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Right now, tonight, the only thing that might bankrupt the country is some stupid muppets on here, **** frantically at the possibility that everyone might give up hope and be as moping and sad as them, manage to cause a run on the banks.

    We will survive that, our money will be safe, but then the price of Irish borrowing will rise so high we have to bring in the IMF.

    Do. Not. Panic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    stepbar wrote: »
    600 million won't recap Aib.... The gov is paying 3 billion to recap and taking a 70% share. Regards if they bought Aib at Market cost they would still have to recap the bank.
    We're a great country, many people in our hospitals making do with trollies in corridors, some schools almost in a state of falling down, but there's no problem with our Government bailing out builders and bankers for their own mistakes.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Grimreaper666


    I felt a funeral in my brain the mourners to and fro............. We're doomed! Doomed I tell you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I like the "save the swans" tag!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I like the "save the swans" tag!
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    stepbar wrote: »
    By general election maybe?

    one buch of w*nkers replaced by another bunch of w*nkers who agreed with every decision make by the first bunch of w*nkers?

    Dream on


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Right now, tonight, the only thing that might bankrupt the country is some stupid muppets on here, **** frantically at the possibility that everyone might give up hope and be as moping and sad as them, manage to cause a run on the banks.

    We will survive that, our money will be safe, but then the price of Irish borrowing will rise so high we have to bring in the IMF.

    Do. Not. Panic.

    Isn't lucky the news will be announced before anyone gets a chance to do so?


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