How did Dublin become such a ****hole?

LarrytheLantern

Collected 3 friends of mine from Canada @ the airport last week.
They were keen to see Dublin so we stopped for a quick look around O'Connell Street, and a few drinks & some bites just off Grafton Street, and the obligatory stroll about Temple Bar etc.

Some days afterwards I asked them what was their impressions of our fair city. They seemed hesitant to reply, so I pushed them for an answer.

Eventually they confessed what a dump they thought Dublin was. And how full of scummers the place is.

I was shocked and more than a bit annoyed.

The weird thing is I hadn't seen it myself.

Time to leave methinks!:(

starbelgrade

If it makes you feel any better, it used to be a lot worse 20 years ago.

Awful_Bliss

Hasn't it always been a sh!thole? You should bring them out to places like Dalkey, Killiney, Howth etc. Compared to main Canadian cities, Dublin's a dump.

Absurdum

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

Time to leave methinks!:(

k thx bai

SadieSue

All cities are like that though. You get an impression of them from the net and the news etc... and when you see them up close its different. I'm living in Montreal and its supposed to be one of the nicest cities in Canada.. its a kip! Its like a huge industrial parking lot with highways.

Biggins

Tell them to stop visiting the Dail then for gods sake!

LizT

Dublin forum

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Logical Fallacy

Being Canadian their opinion doesn't count.

Poor Uncle Tom

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

Time to leave methinks!:(

Don't leave James' Gate hit you on the ass on the way out......:D

starbelgrade

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Don't leave James' Gate hit you on the ass on the way out......:D

Is that how you get out of Dublin?

Jeepers. No wonder there's always traffic jams in the big smoke.

byte

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAYMJnO9LBQ

IvySlayer

O'Connell Street --> Grafton Street --> Temple Bar does not = all of Dublin.

And Dublin is not a ****hole.

BluesBerry

I happen to think out capital is nice thank you very much

If the canadians don't like it then they can feck of :mad:

Rebelheart

In fairness, Dublin is looking much better now that it was 15 years ago. It is still very, very dirty - but less dirty than it was then.

Dubliners are, by developed industrial economy standards, very very friendly. And helpful.

But the alcohol problem is huge - absolutely huge here. I don't think we, either at City Council level or state level, appreciate the ugliness of the alcohol problem here. St Patrick's Day in, I think, 2006, stands out as extraordinarily ugly in my lifelong experience of Dublin city.

We have to get to grips with that. We just have to.

southsiderosie

SadieSue wrote: »

All cities are like that though. You get an impression of them from the net and the news etc... and when you see them up close its different. I'm living in Montreal and its supposed to be one of the nicest cities in Canada.. its a kip! Its like a huge industrial parking lot with highways.

Yeah but the parts of Montreal that tourists go to are lovely. The parts of Dublin that tourists go to are lovely in parts, but also surprisingly full of junkies, scumbags, and feral children.

starbelgrade

BluesBerry wrote: »

I happen to think out capital is nice thank you very much

If the canadians don't like it then they can feck of :mad:

It's not like Canada has much going for it either.

Poor Uncle Tom

starbelgrade wrote: »

Is that how you get out of Dublin?

Jeepers. No wonder there's always traffic jams in the big smoke.

Yup, didn't you know?

SadieSue

southsiderosie wrote: »

Yeah but the parts of Montreal that tourists go to are lovely. The parts of Dublin that tourists go to are lovely in parts, but also surprisingly full of junkies, scumbags, and feral children.

That's true. There are a couple nice spots.
What we lack in feral children we make up for in homeless people.

IvySlayer

The problems with scum on the street is that the Gardaí have no motivation for arresting them. And they exist in every city.

Every day in the city I see a junkie or a drunk completely out of it, puking in the street and just casuing general nuisance. It is in my opinon that anyone who is so far gone like that, should be locked up in a room for their own safety. Not until they are completely sober/off the drugs no matter how long it takes.

Homeless people should be forced into hostels, so no sleeping on the street is necessary. The government needs to build more homeless shelters.

Absurdum

IvySlayer wrote: »

O'Connell Street --> Grafton Street --> Temple Bar does not = all of Dublin.

And Dublin is not a ****hole.

indeedy


I got jumped on by a junkie on Karl Johans gate in Oslo (you know, the place we are striving to emulate) yet it didn't change my perception of Norway. Maybe that was because their scumbags are a bunch of pussies but still!

Degsy

southsiderosie wrote: »

Yeah but the parts of Montreal that tourists go to are lovely. The parts of Dublin that tourists go to are lovely in parts, but also surprisingly full of junkies, scumbags, and feral children.

Montreal's a shiithole...full of canadians.

Terry

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

Collected 3 friends of mine from Canada @ the airport last week.
They were keen to see Dublin so we stopped for a quick look around O'Connell Street, and a few drinks & some bites just off Grafton Street, and the obligatory stroll about English stag party central.

Some days afterwards I asked them what was their impressions of our fair city. They seemed hesitant to reply, so I pushed them for an answer.

Eventually they confessed what a dump they thought Dublin was. And how full of scummers the place is.

I was shocked and more than a bit annoyed.

The weird thing is I hadn't seen it myself.

Time to leave methinks!:(

FYP.

Red Hand

Dear old dirty Dublin. "De sal' o' de earth, wha?"

southsiderosie

IvySlayer wrote: »

O'Connell Street --> Grafton Street --> Temple Bar does not = all of Dublin.

And Dublin is not a ****hole.

Yes, but those are the areas that tourists are the most likely to see.

I've never seen people selling heroin or shooting up at 9:30am on the Spanish Steps or at the Eiffel Tower or in Plaza Mayor. Yet I saw this DAILY on the Quays in the heart of Dublin.

I love Dublin, but there's a level of social anarchy that you see in its city center in broad daylight that is generally missing from other European capital cities (or hell American cities for that matter).

Red Hand

southsiderosie wrote: »

Yes, but those are the areas that tourists are the most likely to see.

I've never seen people selling heroin or shooting up at 9:30am on the Spanish Steps or at the Eiffel Tower or in Plaza Mayor. Yet I saw this DAILY on the Quays in the heart of Dublin.

I love Dublin, but there's a level of social anarchy that you see in its city center in broad daylight that is generally missing from other European capital cities (or hell American cities for that matter).

In our stew-pot of culture, the scum rises to the top.:pac:

IvySlayer

southsiderosie wrote: »

Yes, but those are the areas that tourists are the most likely to see.

I've never seen people selling heroin or shooting up at 9:30am on the Spanish Steps or at the Eiffel Tower or in Plaza Mayor. Yet I saw this DAILY on the Quays in the heart of Dublin.

I love Dublin, but there's a level of social anarchy that you see in its city center in broad daylight that is generally missing from other European capital cities (or hell American cities for that matter).

Policing is much tougher over there. As stated above, the Gardaí just won't bother arresting scum due to the hassle involved. Courts just give them a slap on the wrist and off they go.

Personally anyone who is drugged up that much on the streets should be locked up for at least a year to help them get off they drug in the first place.

Pighead

Dublins pretty slimy and stinky alright but there's plenty capital cities worse.

Was in Athens a few years back to check out the ancient ruins and wondrous monuments that were all built before the baby Jesus was even born. Was walking through Athens in wide eyed wonder, absolutely agog at the ancient buildings and crumbling ruins until the tour guide told Pighead that this was actually the city centre and nothing to do with ancient Greece. Absolute kip.

Dudess

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

Collected 3 friends of mine from Canada @ the airport last week.
They were keen to see Dublin so we stopped for a quick look around O'Connell Street, and a few drinks & some bites just off Grafton Street, and the obligatory stroll about Temple Bar etc.

Some days afterwards I asked them what was their impressions of our fair city. They seemed hesitant to reply, so I pushed them for an answer.

Eventually they confessed what a dump they thought Dublin was. And how full of scummers the place is.

I was shocked and more than a bit annoyed.

The weird thing is I hadn't seen it myself.

Time to leave methinks!:(

Yes. The impression three tourists have of Dublin means it's "time to leave".

Trevor451

Dublin would be a great city if we could get rid off all the scumbags :cool:

ejmaztec

Dublin became a sh1thole when the Vikings left.

challengemaster

The only people who don't know how shíte dublin is, are the ones who were born and live there.

holystungun9

At last, someone who knows Canadians....can you please tell me if the South Park depiction of them having a two part head is accurate. My friend says it is but he´s a bit of a chancer and I´m not sure that I believe him. So what´s the deal?

Pighead

Trevor451 wrote: »

Dublin would be a great city if we could get rid off all the scumbags :cool:

Spot on Trev. Deep stuff buddy. You're obviously a very wise man. Also Fair City would be a great programme if we could get rid of all the actors.

ejmaztec

Pighead wrote: »

Spot on Trev. Deep stuff buddy. You're obviously a very wise man. Also Fair City would be a great programme if we could get rid of all the actors.

There would have to be actors to get rid of.

Logical Fallacy

challengemaster wrote: »

The only people who don't know how shíte dublin is, are the ones who were born and live there.

I wasn't born here, i do live here, and Dublin really isn't all that bad.

Lets get serious here people.

Terry

Wait. We're allowed to troll here?

Ok. Dublin people are the scum of the Earth. They have the largest amount of dole bums in the country. They are nothing but the scum of the Earth. I say we wipe Dublin out and make Cork the capital.
Dubs are only West Brits anyway. Sure who needs them? They all walk around in pyjamas and go shoplifting when they are not banging up.
I hate being associated with them. They make me ashamed to be Irish. I'd rather be English than be associated with those West Brits.

I'm leaving this country right now. Feckin' Dubs. Treating our P.M. like scum just because he had a few drinks. If it was Bertie who had those drinks they wouldn't have said anything. It's just 'cos he's from Offaly.

Feckin' Dubs. They're all on the dole. Us real Irish people work for a living. All they do is have 40 kids each so that they can get a council house and live off the state. They're only knackers. The lot of them.

Is that enough, or should I have a go at the North/South divide?

Dudess

I love Dublin - loved living there. I don't get the Dublin-hating.

Dudess

Yes, post requires analysis of northside/southside divide.

And this I agree with:

Terry wrote: »

I say we wipe Dublin out and make Cork the capital.

:pac:

southsiderosie

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I wasn't born here, i do live here, and Dublin really isn't all that bad.

Lets get serious here people.

I wasn't born in Dublin (i.e. "Southside rosie" =/= D4 rosie), I lived there until a few months ago, and Dublin city center is pretty bad compared to other European cities. I've lived in US cities with much higher crime rates, but Dublin city center, especially east of O'Connell street and just west of Christ Church can feel very sketchy, and the general lack of police presence doesn't help.

Like I said, I love Dublin, but ****: who wants to trudge through open air heroin markets on their way to work every day?

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Every time I see a puddle of puke on the ground I can make out Dublin in it

Logical Fallacy

Terry wrote: »

Is that enough, or should I have a go at the North/South divide?

The North/South divide is a fallacy designed to distract you from the West Brits being close to the sea man, closer to the Motherland that is Engerland.

Logical Fallacy

southsiderosie wrote: »

I wasn't born in Dublin (i.e. "Southside rosie" =/= D4 rosie), I lived there until a few months ago, and Dublin city center is pretty bad compared to other European cities. I've lived in US cities with much higher crime rates, but Dublin city center, especially east of O'Connell street and just west of Christ Church can feel very sketchy, and the general lack of police presence doesn't help.

Like I said, I love Dublin, but ****: who wants to trudge through open air heroin markets on their way to work every day?

Is it not more possible that you just have a more prejudgemental view of people in Dublin due to any subconscious social bias you may have picked up?

Not being a dickhead, just asking.

Swampy

Sick of Dublin naysayers. Go fu*k yourself op and your canadains.

evercloserunion

Why do people get so touchy whenever somebody criticises Dublin?

epgc3fyqirnbsx

evercloserunion wrote: »

Why do people get so touchy whenever somebody criticises Dublin?

The same reason people get touchy when culchies are criticised
People seem to want to belong to a tribe, the main reason being that they can differentiate themselves from other tribes

This applies to countries, regions, religions, scenesters, posh, poor etc

Pighead

ejmaztec wrote: »

There would have to be actors to get rid of.

You obviously never watch the show. Barry O'Hanlon is a brilliant and wonderful actor. He also looks like he's a lovely bloke and Pighead is seriously considering naming his first born after the man (Barry if it's a boy and Barrina if a girl). Pighead will defend that mans acting abilities till the day he dies.

Mister men

The heroin problem has become huge within the last few months. The streets are flooded with it and it's getting cheaper by the day. Have noticed a few lads around my way getting caught up on it over the last while. Things are going to get a lot worse as drug programmes are closing down all around the country for lack of funding. There's one over there in Rialto that's been there donkeys years that's closing and that's going to push a lot of the gearbags up onto the streets of the city looking for bags. But tbh Dublin has always been a ****hole anyways. Have lived all over the World and Dublin rates pretty poorly imo.

evercloserunion

Mister men wrote: »

The heroin problem has become huge within the last few months. The streets are flooded with it and it's getting cheaper by the day. Have noticed a few lads around my way getting caught up on it over the last while. Things are going to get a lot worse as drug programmes are closing down all around the country for lack of funding. There's one over there in Rialto that's been there donkeys years that's closing and that's going to push a lot of the gearbags up onto the streets of the city looking for bags. But tbh Dublin has always been a ****hole anyways. Have lived all over the World and Dublin rates pretty poorly imo.

You're just jealous because you weren't born in this great city. Every time I almost slip in a puddle of junkie puke my eyes well up with tears of pride.

RMD

We're the most welcoming city in Europe according to Tripadvisor for 2 years in a row. Canadians are never happy, fúck 'em :pac:

challengemaster wrote: »

The only people who don't know how shíte dublin is, are the ones who were born and live there.

Same can be said about the country, the only people who don't know how much of a boring ****hole the country is are those who were born and live there.

southsiderosie

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Is it not more possible that you just have a more prejudgemental view of people in Dublin due to any subconscious social bias you may have picked up?

Not being a dickhead, just asking.

A bias against open-air drug dealing, screaming matches in the middle of the street, and getting asked for "tea" money from twitchy young men every five minutes? Perhaps.

I don't get why people are so sensitive about Dublin. I'm from Chicago, and if someone was like "Damn there are a lot of murders" or "Wow, it's so corrupt" I wouldn't be like "well **** off home then!". OK, well maybe I would, but they would still be right.

Terry

Dudess wrote: »

Yes, post requires analysis of northside/southside divide.

And this I agree with:

:pac:

Them feckin' Dubs. They don't even know where they are from.
The ones on the South of the Liffey think they are from England. Have you ever heard them talking? They all have English accents.

When you go to Foxrock, Blackrock, Dun Leary, Clondalkin, Tallaght and the like, it like being in another country.
They hate the GAA. If you wear a Meath jersey then they beat you up. Bunch of ignorant feckers. They all love the rugby too.
I was in Ballybrack last week and some West Brit bastard kicked the crap out of me because I was wearing an Offaly jersey. He said that it was my fault that Bertie was not in charge any more. Then he made me snort loads of coke and go to one of them nightclubs where all the celebrities hang out. He said that it would make me realise that living outside So Co Du is only for losers, and that meeting Marty Whelan would make me a better person.

When we got there, we found that a bunch of knackers from Finglas had shown up. The bobbies (apparently this is how they are know in D2) gave those Blanchardstown knackers the beating they deserved. All we had to do was use our Castleknock accents and we were given a Bobby escort into the club.

Once we were insoide we hooked up with our compradres from Glasnevin and Tallaght. None of the Northside Knackers got in.

Ro from Crumlin supplied the coke. Then Anto from Blackrock arrived and tried to sell us some heroin. We told him that we didn't want any of his Northside scummer drugs and told him to go back to the Northsoide where he came from.

Then I got bored.