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prinz · 17-09-2010 1:33pm

Biggins wrote: »

Actually, he did. There is many reports which I have come across as I read the Times alone, that state this.
What's in dispute is if he joined (the Hitler youth) of his own volition or not.

It was compulsory. Your name got added to the register by the State on your 14th birthday IIRC. So in that sense he didn't 'join'. Conscripted would be a better term. Apart from which of course he was never actually involved in the Hitler Youth, being properly conscripted into the Luftwaffe ground forces around the same time.

dvpower · 17-09-2010 1:33pm

prinz wrote: »

Hitler was out to set himself up as god.

Yes. Hitler was trying to construct a society where all power ultimately rested with him, where what he said would be accepted as the infallible truth and must be accepted by the masses no matter how unfair, discriminatory or stupid it was.

The bastard:mad:

Shenshen · 17-09-2010 1:35pm

dvpower wrote: »

Yes. Hitler was trying to construct a society where all power ultimately rested with him, where what he said would be accepted as the infallible truth and must be accepted by the masses no matter how unfair, discriminatory or stupid it was.

The bastard:mad:

*lol
Well, looking at it from that angle, I would have to agree, I think

IvySlayer · 17-09-2010 1:36pm

As usual. The Church is trying to stop people thinking for themselves.

Biggins · 17-09-2010 1:36pm

prinz wrote: »

It was compulsory. Your name got added to the register by the State on your 14th birthday IIRC. So in that sense he didn't 'join'. Conscripted would be a better term. Apart from which of course he was never actually involved in the Hitler Youth, being properly conscripted into the Luftwaffe ground forces around the same time.

Well like those that were called up by similar process in the USA later during the Vietnam war, he could have skipped out on walking through the NAZI party doors by walking the other direction and across a border - but he didn't.

So now you say in a sense "he didn't join" - but even he and the Vatican says he did!

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:37pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Hitler was a Romen Catholic my friend. How could he set himself up as God if he believed in a creator?

Hitler was baptised a Catholic. That does not make the adult man any more Catholic than Buddha. Nazi groups infiltrated Christian Churches, they recommended changing the Bible, there was even at one time an idea floated to include a synopsis of Mein Kampf as a book of the new Bible, which would be the book of the Church of National Socialism. Hitler had messianic beliefs in his own abilities.

For more info check out the reports compiled by William J Dononvan as part of the Nuremburg Trials investigations.

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:38pm

Biggins wrote: »

Well like those that were called up by similar process in the USA later during the Vietnam war, he could have skipped out on walking through the NAZI party doors by walking the other direction and across a border - but he didn't.

Uhm, what border would that have been Biggins? You may like to note that after being forced to join an anti aircraft battery he did just that, he deserted and made it to the American line. He was at that stage 16 years old.

Biggins · 17-09-2010 1:39pm

prinz wrote: »

Uhm, what border would that have been Biggins?

Canada - do you not know that?
Do you know anything about similar situations?
Many took that route during the Vietnam war. There was a lot more borders around Germany!

MrStuffins · 17-09-2010 1:39pm

prinz wrote: »

Hitler was baptised a Catholic. That does not make the adult man any more Catholic than Buddha.

Indeed, but being an actual practicing Catholic DOES!

Are you now denying Hitler was Roman Catholic? Seriously?

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:41pm

dvpower wrote: »

Yes. Hitler was trying to construct a society where all power ultimately rested with him, where what he said would be accepted as the infallible truth and must be accepted by the masses no matter how unfair, discriminatory or stupid it was.
The bastard:mad:

Except there was no opt out with Hitler.

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:42pm

Biggins wrote: »

Canada - do you not know that?
Do you know anything about similar situations?
Many took that route during the Vietnam war. There was a lot more borders around Germany!

*Serious Facepalm* Would this be about the time the Nazis had conquered most of from the Atlantic to the Urals yes? Sure Josef, walk to "the border"....

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:42pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Indeed, but being an actual practicing Catholic DOES!

Hitler wasn't a practising Catholic. Richard Dawkins had an Anglican upbringing, does that make him an Anglican?

Biggins · 17-09-2010 1:42pm

prinz wrote: »

*Serious Facepalm*

Aye, great reply.

IvySlayer · 17-09-2010 1:43pm

Hitler planned to remove Christianity from Germany...

Galvasean · 17-09-2010 1:43pm

prinz wrote: »

Except there was no opt out with Hitler.

Question: Does the Catholic church not consider you "Once baptised, always a member of the RCC?"

- of course I haven't heard of the RCC killing anybody for downloading the countmeout form.

dvpower · 17-09-2010 1:45pm

prinz wrote: »

Except there was no opt out with Hitler.

www.countmeoutofnationalsocialism.ie

optogirl · 17-09-2010 1:45pm

prinz wrote: »

FYP by the way.

Perhaps you should study some history then, notably Nazi opinion towards anything uncontrolled by the State. 'Religion' was fine as long as it didn't conflict with Nazi ideals and towed the party line.

Isn't that exactly what I said??? Nazis were secular however they were not trying to eradicate religion

Biggins · 17-09-2010 1:46pm

prinz wrote: »

*Serious Facepalm* Would this be about the time the Nazis had conquered most of from the Atlantic to the Urals yes? Sure Josef, walk to "the border"....

Great Ninja editing. Getting good at that!

Word play about "walking" - did Hitler stop the trains too?

But the fact is and for all the spin you wish to put on it - he JOINED the Hitler youth - or are you now going to also say still, he didn't and contradict even the pope and the Vatican?

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:47pm

optogirl wrote: »

Isn't that exactly what I said??? Nazis were secular however they were not trying to eradicate religion

They would eradicate everything but the 'religion' of National Socialism.

optogirl · 17-09-2010 1:47pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

You see, i know what he said.

Yet you seem to think everyone else is wrong and you read something the rest of us didn't.

Catholicism summed up

MrStuffins · 17-09-2010 1:48pm

prinz wrote: »

Hitler wasn't a practising Catholic. Richard Dawkins had an Anglican upbringing, does that make him an Anglican?

What has Richard Dawkins got to do with anything?

Hitler was a praying, sometimes mass attending and God believing Roman Catholic until the day he died

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:48pm

Biggins wrote: »

Word play about "walking" - did Hitler stop the trains too?

The keyboard warrior stuff is really hitting a new low. He was 16 when the war ended ffs and at stage he had deserted, the penalty for that was death.

DCUlad · 17-09-2010 1:49pm

I think it's time the Catholic Church politely Fooked off now.
They are the a shower of scum-bags.

During the famine here in 1870, almost 2 million people starved to death. But not one priest died.
They used the money of the starving to keep themselves living their high-life.

They remind me of the KKK at times, everyone walking round with hats, in costumes, making outlandish statements.

As for the pope himself, what a misreable old sod. The man would do serious damage to your hearing listing to his terrible english.
Another stuck up snob, like the British royal family living off ourselves.

Also, look at the security provided for the aul codger. It's like the secret service at times.
A part of me would like to see him getting hit with an egg or something.

prinz · 17-09-2010 1:50pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Hitler was a praying, sometimes mass attending and God believing Roman Catholic until the day he died

Any evidence whatsoever of an adult Hitler attending mass?

MrStuffins · 17-09-2010 1:52pm

prinz wrote: »

Any evidence whatsoever of an adult Hitler attending mass?

Since when have you believed in evidence? You've been unable to back up anything you've said.

But while we're at it

http://www.the-tribulation-network.com/dougkrieger/times_and_seasons/hitler_leaving_church.JPG

Biggins · 17-09-2010 1:54pm

prinz wrote: »

The keyboard warrior stuff is really hitting a new low. He was 16 when the war ended ffs and at stage he had deserted, the penalty for that was death.

He joined the party and then the army.
As regards his age, during that period, age did not matter.
They still fought the allies incoming and represented an evil empire ...which sounds all too familiar to be honest with the current Rome lot.
Both had head dictators barking orders and wouldn't give an inch.

Boiled down to brass tacks.

He compared Aesthetes to Nazis. Thats a review and opinion shared by many since he opened his gob yesterday.
He joined the NAZI's, Youth and army.
He says one thing and does another.

..And if he gave a fcuk about ANY human rights, he would stand up and sign any number of declarations of human rights out there - but while all the head of other religions do, the ageing Rome nut won't!

bleg · 17-09-2010 1:58pm

Ratzinger would certainly know all the nuances of nazism alright.

DOC09UNAM · 17-09-2010 1:59pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Since when have you believed in evidence? You've been unable to back up anything you've said.

But while we're at it

http://www.the-tribulation-network.com/dougkrieger/times_and_seasons/hitler_leaving_church.JPG

Wow, you found a picture of hitler leaving a church, that's brilliant.

I like this picture myself.

IvySlayer · 17-09-2010 2:01pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Since when have you believed in evidence? You've been unable to back up anything you've said.

But while we're at it

http://www.the-tribulation-network.com/dougkrieger/times_and_seasons/hitler_leaving_church.JPG

Why is he wearing a cross on his head? :pac:

Blackhorse Slim · 17-09-2010 2:02pm

hmmm, since Ratty compared atheists to nazis, and has a well-known nazi background, is he trying to tell us in his own coded way that he is an atheist? Is he trying to get down with the cool kids now that he's escaped from the vatican?

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