N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

Cookiemunster

Frostybrew wrote: »

Thanks for the info. Hard to believe that such a narrow road could have once been a national primary route.

Try driving the current N20! The sections south of Croom and Buttevant haven't changed in over a century. There's still plenty of awful substandard national primary roads around.

Chris_5339762

At the risk of derailing the thread slightly, don't forget the hairpins near Dungarvan, which were only replaced in the late 80s as well.

https://goo.gl/maps/UBkX4cgMQKn

https://goo.gl/maps/RuJhL1jPDsD2

They were the best bit of any trip to Rosslare for the ferry.

Frostybrew

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Try driving the current N20! The sections south of Croom and Buttevant haven't changed in over a century. There's still plenty of awful substandard national primary roads around.

Lol, A valid point. The pink rock stretch looks incredibly narrow though, possibly due to more overgrowth on the edges of the road since it was detrunked or possibly a quirk of the google street viewer.

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

At the risk of derailing the thread slightly, don't forget the hairpins near Dungarvan, which were only replaced in the late 80s as well.

https://goo.gl/maps/UBkX4cgMQKn

https://goo.gl/maps/RuJhL1jPDsD2

They were the best bit of any trip to Rosslare for the ferry.

Yes these were great, as is the view from the top of the climb. These bends were bypassed in 1992.

eagerv

eagerv wrote: »

Have they reopened the road at the Pink Rock?

Answering my own question.:)
Just went out to the Pink Rock for a look..


No it hasn't reopened yet, but old road has been rebuilt (Under new Bridge) and surfaced.

perrier

convert wrote:

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convert wrote:

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Chris_5339762 wrote:

They were the best bit of any trip to Rosslare for the ferry.

Chris_5339762 wrote:

At the risk of derailing the thread slightly, don't forget the hairpins near Dungarvan, which were only replaced in the late 80s as well.

Hi just wondering where these bends are located.

josip

perrier wrote: »

Hi just wondering where these bends are located.

A little bit out the Youghal road, rising up the hill.

You can see on a map how the old hairpin is inside the new wider hairpin.


https://goo.gl/maps/GNKZRjPQ1up

perrier

josip wrote: »

A little bit out the Youghal road, rising up the hill.

You can see on a map how the old hairpin is inside the new wider hairpin.


https://goo.gl/maps/GNKZRjPQ1up

Thanks

padraig.od

I used to love those hairpins. Great fun when we were kids, rolling around the back seat

allthedoyles

Munurty

There is a great view of the new bridge when heading Westbound on the new N25.

The road goes through a big rock cut and when you emerge a great view of the bridge from a nice angle comes out of nowhere.

Another thing I noticed is the tower crane on the western side has been taken down. Looking back at previous pics it seems to have disappeared sometime in December.

Harry Palmr

Great pic, if you squint it nearly looks finished!

Frostybrew

Munurty wrote: »

There is a great view of the new bridge when heading Westbound on the new N25.

The road goes through a big rock cut and when you emerge a great view of the bridge from a nice angle comes out of nowhere.

Another thing I noticed is the tower crane on the western side has been taken down. Looking back at previous pics it seems to have disappeared sometime in December.

That looks great. Used to love crossing the Severn Bridge going on holidays to England back in the 80s. Good to see we have something more comparable here now, and for a modest enough price as well.

Chris_5339762

Ooo now that looks like a tasty approach to the bridge. Are you working on the site or did you get chased off soon after?

m17

The rfk bridge April 18 - February 19 by insta_mavic

skodacb

Quick picture I nabbed today on my travels, sorry it's not the best of quality. Cables are being installed, so far 2 cables on the middle span and 1 cable on the New Ross side.


Also the right/left turn for the pink rock( https://goo.gl/maps/fmTxddpu1MS2 ) is longer as it's been filled in with rock and earth fully covering the length and width of the road.

Kermit.de.frog

road_high

Frostybrew wrote: »

Slightly off topic question, was the Pink Rock road originally part of the N25 back in the late 1970s and 80s? I travelled the road back in 1982 on the way to the ferry and remember it being a narrow enough winding road that you from which you could see the Barrow. I know that a new stretch of road was constructed in this area in the late 80s or 90s.

Really? That was the N25? Jesus look how narrow it is. Hard to believe

road_high

Someone should write a history of Irelands N roads, fascinating how they've changed.

josip

road_high wrote: »

Really? That was the N25? Jesus look how narrow it is. Hard to believe

The sides have grown in a lot in fairness.
The old white line can still be seen in a few places

https://goo.gl/maps/n6MDfSDRk2U2

Any HGVs, or lorries as they were called back then, going under the county road bridge leaned on the horn for a good 10 seconds while they swung wide to go under the centre of the bridge. Great entertainment watching it from above on the railway, especially when a car from the other side didn't hear/heed the horn.

https://goo.gl/maps/XGg9KoUhpr92

At that time, boatloads of Japanese cars used to land in Ross, perhaps because of the strike at Waterford port.
Anyways, the car transports heading south couldn't fit under the bridges. So they had to go the back road.
If you thought the pink rock was bad...

https://goo.gl/maps/hv3Vf436YRp

Harry Palmr

I knew that road pretty well when it was little more than a glorified boreen - you really can't get two HGV's past one another on parts of it now. Astonishing to recall it being technically part of a Euro Route! The current N25 which is of course itself changing significantly right now was built in the mid 80s.

NewbridgeIR

josip wrote: »

The sides have grown in a lot in fairness.
The old white line can still be seen in a few places

https://goo.gl/maps/n6MDfSDRk2U2

Any HGVs, or lorries as they were called back then, going under the county road bridge leaned on the horn for a good 10 seconds while they swung wide to go under the centre of the bridge. Great entertainment watching it from above on the railway, especially when a car from the other side didn't hear/heed the horn.

https://goo.gl/maps/XGg9KoUhpr92

At that time, boatloads of Japanese cars used to land in Ross, perhaps because of the strike at Waterford port.
Anyways, the car transports heading south couldn't fit under the bridges. So they had to go the back road.
If you thought the pink rock was bad...

https://goo.gl/maps/hv3Vf436YRp

I remember a fatal accident at the railway bridge c.1990/91. Coming back from Waterford RTC to New Ross. Bus Eireann and car. Awful.

road_high

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

I remember a fatal accident at the railway bridge c.1990/91. Coming back from Waterford RTC to New Ross. Bus Eireann and car. Awful.

The railway bridges on the old N9 were similar design though not quite as narrow and low as that one I’d say

BelfastVanMan

road_high wrote: »

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

I remember a fatal accident at the railway bridge c.1990/91. Coming back from Waterford RTC to New Ross. Bus Eireann and car. Awful.

The railway bridges on the old N9 were similar design though not quite as narrow and low as that one I’d say

The one at Smithstown on the old N9 is a particularly bad one, from memory.

road_high

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

The one at Smithstown on the old N9 is a particularly bad one, from memory.

I don’t know the exact address but there were two between Ballyhale and Mullinavat (one was Knockmoylan?). I was only a chap but I vaguely remember they knocked the arch off at least one of them to make it easier for traffic to flow under- “Oncoming traffic in Centre of the road” were perhaps unique on a N primary route! The bends swept into them at 45 degree angles which made them lethal.
There was also a low enough narrow bridge at Thomastown and also before Waterford but they were on straight. What an awful bloody road that was! As recent as 2010 that was the main road. Hard to believe

BelfastVanMan

road_high wrote: »

BelfastVanMan wrote: »

The one at Smithstown on the old N9 is a particularly bad one, from memory.

I don’t know the exact address but there were two between Ballyhale and Mullinavat (one was Knockmoylan?). I was only a chap but I vaguely remember they knocked the arch off at least one of them to make it easier for traffic to flow under- “Oncoming traffic in Centre of the road” were perhaps unique on a N primary route! The bends swept into them at 45 degree angles which made them lethal.
There was also a low enough narrow bridge at Thomastown and also before Waterford but they were on straight. What an awful bloody road that was! As recent as 2010 that was the main road. Hard to believe

I know...less than a decade ago...madness.

The M9 is literally 2 centuries ahead of the R448.

Harry Palmr

The primary roads to and around the south east were appalling, some of them are still in need of significant investment - New Ross to Enniscorthy springs to mind and the N24 of course.

The N9/R448 at Dungarvan (the other one) had a sharp right turn at the bottom of a long slope - the corner of a building (pub? unused now) at the junction got taken out at least once.

https://goo.gl/maps/aQ1k5xTaqhm

(do a rotation and you'll see 3 HGV's converging in this 2009 image)

marno21

road_high wrote: »

I don’t know the exact address but there were two between Ballyhale and Mullinavat (one was Knockmoylan?). I was only a chap but I vaguely remember they knocked the arch off at least one of them to make it easier for traffic to flow under- “Oncoming traffic in Centre of the road” were perhaps unique on a N primary route! The bends swept into them at 45 degree angles which made them lethal.
There was also a low enough narrow bridge at Thomastown and also before Waterford but they were on straight. What an awful bloody road that was! As recent as 2010 that was the main road. Hard to believe

There's still an "oncoming traffic in middle of road" sign on the N24 north west of Cahir. These days whilst we are getting limited numbers of road projects built, to say they are transformative is an understatement.

jelutong

Frostybrew wrote: »

Slightly off topic question, was the Pink Rock road originally part of the N25 back in the late 1970s and 80s? I travelled the road back in 1982 on the way to the ferry and remember it being a narrow enough winding road that you from which you could see the Barrow. I know that a new stretch of road was constructed in this area in the late 80s or 90s.

Also, the road passed through Ferrybank, Milepost and Slieverue villages. Rocketts pub in the Milepost had a few narrow shaves over the years.

road_high

Any one a 70s or early 80s detailed road map of Ireland? Be fascinating to see these old routes on maps

my3cents

road_high wrote: »

Any one a 70s or early 80s detailed road map of Ireland? Be fascinating to see these old routes on maps

http://map.geohive.ie/mapviewer.html and try the historic maps. Edit> You can open more than one map and superimpose one them on each other.