Bizarre/Illegal things on motorways

Amtmann

This chap was on the M8 Cashel Bypass today. He even turned around and obliged when I snapped a photo of him. I phoned him into the Guards naturally.

Edited photo below...

L1011

I've given up phoning in cyclists on the Glanmire BP, the Guards in Glanmire seem to think its not a motorway

liammur

Furet wrote: »

This chap was on the M8 Cashel Bypass today. He even turned around and obliged when I snapped a photo of him. I phoned him into the Guards naturally.

These guys shouldn't be allowed on any road imo. Very dangerous and there must be an element of cruelty involved. I'm not sure however if it's a good idea to put his photo up on the internet if you didn't receive permission.

Amtmann

liammur wrote: »

These guys shouldn't be allowed on any road imo. Very dangerous and there must be an element of cruelty involved. I'm not sure however if it's a good idea to put his photo up on the internet if you didn't receive permission.

Good point. How do you blur out a face?

liammur

Furet wrote: »

Good point. How do you blur out a face?

Put a black line along his face just to make him unrecognisable,

amacachi

Photoshop, blue tool. Or use MS Paint and put another colour over it.

Amtmann

Done.

Amtmann

liammur wrote: »

These guys shouldn't be allowed on any road imo. Very dangerous and there must be an element of cruelty involved.

He was a danger to himself, his child, and everyone one else on the road. I encountered him on the off-ramp, so I slowed right down (almost at the end point and nothing behind me) and snapped the image. Parked up a few minutes later and on the phone to the Guards, he pulled up alongside me and gave me the finger.

L1011

You're allowed phone the Guards while driving irrespective of handsfree kit or not, Furet.

Robbo

Last Thursday, M18 around Ennis, heading to Galway around 11pm. It was chucking it down and gusting heavily. Cyclist on the hard shoulder with only one of those small flashing red lights on his backpack as his sole source of illumination.

Before on the M6, I saw a double decker bus with what looked like a hen party aboard pulled up at about 10:30 pm in the hard shoulder. Between the edge of the hard shoulder and the grass verge were 3 women in a line, trou dropped, having a slash.

I've also seen plenty of Fastrac's pulling enormous trailers but apparently this is OK because they can do 75 km/h...

wellbutty

Just the ones I can think of, all on the M9:

an MPV parked up under a bridge, with all its occupants enjoying a sheltered picnic while watching the rain

about 10 people running down the embankment towards the road...back to their bus after a piss break

from a standing start (in a Micra) on the hard shoulder, someone first gearing onto the slow lane instead of building up their speed first

ForiegnNational

Robbo wrote: »

I've also seen plenty of Fastrac's pulling enormous trailers but apparently this is OK because they can do 75 km/h...

The problem is not the tractors, so much as the huge loads of straw, hay and excavators these tractors are used to pull. Surely like caravan's, there is a maximum speed that you are allowed to tow such trailers, and if so, is this level below the minimum speed allowed on motorways?

BigMoose

wellbutty wrote:

from a standing start (in a Micra) on the hard shoulder, someone first gearing onto the slow lane instead of building up their speed first

I've seen this a few times on the M11 too. Amazing how people just indicate right and pull out from stationary.

wellbutty

Not sure about other parts of the country but in Waterford, we recently got a safety leaflet in the door, making motorists aware of cyclists, cyclists rights, etc. This was endorsed by groups like the RSA.

With the motorway building boom over in a few months, some form of education must take place on how to use them. People whove never driven on a motorway before are dicing with people doing 120kmh while they figure out how it works...S C A R Y

zuroph

met an elderly lady walking a child alongside the centre embankment of the nenagh to birdhill motorway stretch. Could not believe my eyes.

eden_my_ass

Furet wrote: »

This chap was on the M8 Cashel Bypass today. He even turned around and obliged when I snapped a photo of him. I phoned him into the Guards naturally.

Edited photo below...

I believe that gentleman belongs to a secret society who are far above and beyond the law, and now he knows what you look like. Beware the sound of a clip-clop in the dead of night

BigMoose

Another common thing that really annoys me on motorways is when people potter down the slip road at <50km/h then either panic at the bottom when they cant merge with people doing 120 or indicate and join the main carriageway at 50 and then speed up to 120. Perhaps this isn't bizarre or illegal, but not sure we need an "annoying people/things on motorways" thread

eden_my_ass

BigMoose wrote: »

Another common thing that really annoys me on motorways is when people potter down the slip road at <50km/h then either panic at the bottom when they cant merge with people doing 120 or indicate and join the main carriageway at 50 and then speed up to 120. Perhaps this isn't bizarre or illegal, but not sure we need an "annoying people/things on motorways" thread

Or they can do what a girl did in front of me joining a 120km/h stretch from Midleton to Cork off the roundabout from Cobh....stop dead. Yup, she stopped at the bottom of the slip (which had a long feeder lane for merging), forcing two of us to overtake her while joining the relatively quiet road, and she eventually joined in when it suited her to catch up with the world.

Stonewolf

BigMoose wrote: »

Another common thing that really annoys me on motorways is when people potter down the slip road at <50km/h then either panic at the bottom when they cant merge with people doing 120 or indicate and join the main carriageway at 50 and then speed up to 120. Perhaps this isn't bizarre or illegal, but not sure we need an "annoying people/things on motorways" thread

I come across this a lot, the solution is to slow to a crawl so you can put space between you and them and then once they've merged floor it onto the motorway.

Empire o de Sun

There is a guy who regularly cycles the M2, often saw him there when I used to travel to Meath. He has all the gear too, so he is no amateur, well probably :rolleyes:

Empire o de Sun

My early memory of the M1 (airport motorway) opening, is see two people with picnic chairs on the side of the motorway

Carawaystick

traffic lights on Motorways

Everything else is just ignorance.
Lights are your taxes paying for incompetence.

Empire o de Sun

It is called lazy engineering

hi5

Tailgating.
No one around as far as the eye can see(M9,Waterford section),doing about 100 kph in the left lane,then someone moving faster comes up behind you and just sits there,they wont overtake,happens regularly
Now I dont mind if they keep their distance but not on my tail:mad:

wayne0308

I seen a guy on a mountain bike on the hard shoulder of the M50 on Monday morning taking cover under one of the overpasses to keep in out of the rain as it was lashing at the time. Do the Gardai monitor the motorways using cameras and keep an eye out for that kind of thing?

The worst thing I've seen so far was seen from the seat of a bus on the M50. I was looking out the window and we were driving along side a car. The guy had his laptop on his lap typing something and was driving at the same time. Didn't have time to react and the get a pic and the reg plate sadly.

28064212

Carawaystick wrote: »

traffic lights on Motorways

Everything else is just ignorance.
Lights are your taxes paying for incompetence.

Where are there traffic lights on a Motorway? I thought one of the requirements for motorway classification was no traffic lights?

Empire o de Sun

28064212 wrote: »

Where are there traffic lights on a Motorway? I thought one of the requirements for motorway classification was no traffic lights?

The original M50 M1 interchange.

celticbest

I have regularly seen cyclists and pedestrians on the M1 but have never seen a Guard at the same time......it's like they turn a blind eye.

Road-Hog

liammur wrote: »

These guys shouldn't be allowed on any road imo. Very dangerous and there must be an element of cruelty involved. I'm not sure however if it's a good idea to put his photo up on the internet if you didn't receive permission.

Seeking permission to put up on internet........are you serious, I would imagine that this individual wouldn't have a clue what the internet is let alone be bothered by having a picture posted . Same individual probably drives around without tax/insurance/no seat belt or child seats, parks where he likes etc..........and is never prosecuted....

limklad

Furet wrote: »

Good point. How do you blur out a face?

Paint.net is free and easy to blur out or edit images.

veryangryman

Road-Hog wrote: »

Seeking permission to put up on internet........are you serious, I would imagine that this individual wouldn't have a clue what the internet is let alone be bothered by having a picture posted . Same individual probably drives around without tax/insurance/no seat belt or child seats, parks where he likes etc..........and is never prosecuted....

I agree with you somewhat, but what if your wrong? I wouldnt fancy being sued by said individual and having to share a courtroom with the ramifications from such lowlifes.

Carawaystick

28064212 wrote: »

Where are there traffic lights on a Motorway? I thought one of the requirements for motorway classification was no traffic lights?

The M1/M1 junction. Heading east from Dublin airport to go onto the M1N you usually have to stop at traffic lights, instead of freeflowing.

Cookie_Monster

veryangryman wrote: »

I agree with you somewhat, but what if your wrong? I wouldnt fancy being sued by said individual and having to share a courtroom with the ramifications from such lowlifes.

taken in a public place so its fine, don't need permission. If there were actual issues about this you'd constantly see the likes of Facebook in court because of people putting pictures up without asking their friends

yermanoffthetv

Last week just where the M18 begins north of Ennis heading south, saw a bloody harvester! it was doing about 50/60kph To be fair they had a cars with warning lights infront and behind it but it really shouldnt have been there in the first place!

Cookie_Monster

In the last week on the M11 and M50 I've come across:

Tractor northbound at Bray straddling the driving lane and hard shoulder
Truck in the overtaking lane
Moron stopped at the end of a junction merging lane waiting for a break in the traffic
At least 3-4 cars pulled over in hard shoulder on the phone
guy driving along at around 100 with his hazards continuously on for no apparent reason
several people veering from the overtaking lane directly into a slip road exit

harsea8

Where the M4 and M6 split at Kilcock, its not unusual to see people reversing down the hard shoulder of the M4 fork cos they obviously meant to go down the M6....all this with traffic haring past at 120!!

Also, saw a person turn down the up ramp of the M6 in Athlone before...was driving away from junction so don't know how long it took them to realise their error...soon I hope!

who_am_I?

harsea8 wrote: »

Where the M4 and M6 split at Kilcock, its not unusual to see people reversing down the hard shoulder of the M4 fork cos they obviously meant to go down the M6....all this with traffic haring past at 120!!

Also, saw a person turn down the up ramp of the M6 in Athlone before...was driving away from junction so don't know how long it took them to realise their error...soon I hope!

About 10 years ago, on the South Link in cork I met someone between the Kinsale Road and Sarsfield road Going the wrong way at about 9 on a Sunday morning.
About 7 years ago I saw someone do a U-turn on the stretch between the Sarsfield road and Bandon road, This was at about 6 on a Friday afternoon.
about 2 years ago I met an old man just after he drove down the off-ramp. close to Michelstown.
Last year I met a car pulled in on m50 Southbound Red -cow off-ramp, The nose was out and she looked like she was about to do a u-turn and go down the of-ramp
I meet a tractor on a motorway at least once a month,
I have seen a few hitchhikers recently, around Cork and Urlingford.
I also met some walkers on the motorway around Naas last month, This was at about 4pm on a Friday on the north-bound carriageway

Thuck_Fat

Wow, I can't believe you rang the Guards over this. Unbelievable. Motorists seem to think they are the only ones in the country entitled to travel...

whyulittle

On a motorway, they are.

Mycroft H

harsea8 wrote: »

Where the M4 and M6 split at Kilcock, its not unusual to see people reversing down the hard shoulder of the M4 fork cos they obviously meant to go down the M6....all this with traffic haring past at 120!!

Also, saw a person turn down the up ramp of the M6 in Athlone before...was driving away from junction so don't know how long it took them to realise their error...soon I hope!

the m4 doesn't split till kinnegad. At kilcock the m4 continues on and branches off onto the old national primary route, the N4.

/pedantic



I saw a van towing another on the hard shoulder between kilcock last sunday.... whats the procedure when you break down on the motorway? Its hardly wait until your mate arrives with a tow rope :pac:

harsea8

landyman wrote: »

the m4 doesn't split till kinnegad. At kilcock the m4 continues on and branches off onto the old national primary route, the N4.

/pedantic

You're right...I always get the KKKs mixed up

Thuck_Fat

whyulittle wrote: »

On a motorway, they are.

Not in my opinion. I don't live by statutes.

28064212

Thuck_Fat wrote: »

Not in my opinion. I don't live by statutes.

Try using that line on a garda next time you're picked up. You do realise there's a very, very good reason why a 'horse and cart' (complete with what appears to be a child on-board) isn't allowed on the motorway?

oharach

Thuck_Fat wrote: »

Wow, I can't believe you rang the Guards over this. Unbelievable. Motorists seem to think they are the only ones in the country entitled to travel...

There is an alternative route to every motorway in the country.

Thuck_Fat wrote: »

Not in my opinion. I don't live by statutes.

Since we're talking about entitlements, what gives you the entitlement to decide which statutes to comply with? 'It's not doing any harm' just doesn't cut it – it's a major safety hazard and an accident waiting to happen.

number10a

Thuck_Fat wrote: »

Not in my opinion. I don't live by statutes.

Ha!! :pac::pac::pac: That's one of the best things I've heard on boards in months! Only for using a word like "statutes", I'd assume you're 12.

thetonynator

ForiegnNational wrote: »

The problem is not the tractors, so much as the huge loads of straw, hay and excavators these tractors are used to pull. Surely like caravan's, there is a maximum speed that you are allowed to tow such trailers, and if so, is this level below the minimum speed allowed on motorways?

The minimum motorway speed is 50 kmp/h.

New tractors can do up to 80kmp/h.

The limit while towing a trailer ( to the best of my knowledge) is 80kmp/h, so technically theres nothingillegal about it.

JohnC.

number10a wrote: »

Ha!! :pac::pac::pac: That's one of the best things I've heard on boards in months! Only for using a word like "statutes", I'd assume you're 12.

Or a member of that pictured community.

Thuck_Fat

28064212 wrote: »

You do realise there's a very, very good reason why a 'horse and cart' (complete with what appears to be a child on-board) isn't allowed on the motorway?

I do indeed. But I still disagree with making it illegal. I disagree with most 'laws' anyway. We are, as a population, being treated like children. Too many laws.

oharach wrote: »

Since we're talking about entitlements, what gives you the entitlement to decide which statutes to comply with? 'It's not doing any harm' just doesn't cut it...

Well, actually, I am a human. Not a fictional entity created by the state who can be prosecuted by commercial laws. I live under common law (ie the law that was in place before the British commercial laws (statutes) came into effect). We all have the entitlement to decide not to comply with statutes. Because therein lies the tragic flaw of this outdated system, our compliance is needed in order to be prosecuted under commercial law. It's all very complicated but if you do just a little research you would know what I'm talking about...

number10a wrote: »

Ha!! :pac::pac::pac: That's one of the best things I've heard on boards in months! Only for using a word like "statutes", I'd assume you're 12.

Thanks for the constructive input.


To be honest, I really don't see the big deal with a horse on the motorway. Sure, your immediate reaction is to perceive it as extremely dangerous. But what could possibly go wrong? As long as someone doesn't decide to drive in the hard shoulder at 120km/h... and please don't argue that the horse could stray off-course into oncoming traffic, because there is more of a chance your car will have a blow-out and do the same.

Plautus

We all have the entitlement to decide not to comply with statutes.

Check the constitution and try again.

Statute, that's law passed by the legislature. Several common law offences have been made statutory - murder, burglary, assault and affray, rape ... fashioning an argument for the illegitimacy of statute would seem to run counter to respecting popular sovereignty and our ability to, er, pass new law

As long as someone doesn't decide to drive in the hard shoulder at 120km/h... and please don't argue that the horse could stray off-course into oncoming traffic, because there is more of a chance your car will have a blow-out and do the same.

Because a car gets scared and can overreact to loud noises just the same!

Thuck_Fat

Plautus wrote: »

Several common law offences have been made statutory - murder, burglary, assault and affray, rape ... fashioning an argument for the illegitimacy of statute would seem to run counter to respecting popular sovereignty and our ability to, er, pass new law

Just because commercial law has adapted these common laws doesn't mean fashioning an argument for the illegitimacy of statute disrespects popular sovereignty. Commercial law may have adapted them, but they are STILL common law.

I hate to sound naive or what have you, but we do not need any new laws.

Anyway, this debate shouldn't be continued on this thread. Talk about off-topic...

CerebralCortex

Thuck_Fat wrote: »

To be honest, I really don't see the big deal with a horse on the motorway....

You might want to look into that.

Thuck_Fat wrote: »

Sure, your immediate reaction is to perceive it as extremely dangerous. But what could possibly go wrong? As long as someone doesn't decide to drive in the hard shoulder at 120km/h... and please don't argue that the horse could stray off-course into oncoming traffic, because there is more of a chance your car will have a blow-out and do the same.

Have you ever driven on a motorway? Do you understand the concept of a motor? Well let me tell you it's kind of essential for driving on a motorway!