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When & How could there be a united Ireland?

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    #692
    Scofflaw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Why is a supposed unionist posting on a southern website?
    Hugo Drax wrote:
    Not exactly hard to spell online son, ever hear of copy and paste?

    And so on. These comments are irrelevant to the discussion and personal. Keep this up, and your forum posting privileges will be withdrawn for a period proportional (in my eyes) to the offence.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


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    #693
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Probably not,but that is not the fault of the report.

    Let's imagine a little fictional scenario...

    Suppose Joe Bloggs shoots dead your wife.

    Instead of the police arresting him, he is untouched and never questioned.

    Instead, a judge issues a report stating that your wife was innocent and Joe Bloggs should not have shot her.

    Case closed.

    Would you really be happy with that??


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    #694
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    And so on. These comments are irrelevant to the discussion and personal. Keep this up, and your forum posting privileges will be withdrawn for a period proportional (in my eyes) to the offence.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw

    Whilst i take your point to a certain extent, you'll surely concede that the other poster deliberately misspelt "Taoiseach" out of a desire to insult - assume you've delivered a similar reprimand to him??


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    #695
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Let's imagine a little fictional scenario...

    Suppose Joe Bloggs shoots dead your wife.

    Instead of the police arresting him, he is untouched and never questioned.

    Instead, a judge issues a report stating that your wife was innocent and Joe Bloggs should not have shot her.

    Case closed.

    Would you really be happy with that??
    No, but the case has not yet been closed. Prosecutions may follow. I think there should be prosecutions.


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    #696
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    No, but the case has not yet been closed. Prosecutions may follow. I think there should be prosecutions.

    Call me a jaded cynic but I really can't ever see that happening...


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    #697
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Call me a jaded cynic but I really can't ever see that happening...
    Probably not, but that is not the reports fault.


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    #698
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Probably not, but that is not the reports fault.

    A "report" is no substitiute for process of law...


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    #699
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    A "report" is no substitiute for process of law...
    Think of Saville as a Detective. He has investigated, and drawn conclusions. He has in effect sent these to the DPP. What happens next is not up to him. He is not Judge Dredd.


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    #700
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Whilst i take your point to a certain extent, you'll surely concede that the other poster deliberately misspelt "Taoiseach" out of a desire to insult - assume you've delivered a similar reprimand to him??

    I'll think you'll find that there are other unionists on here from northern ireland too.;)


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    #701
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Think of Saville as a Detective. He has investigated, and drawn conclusions. He has in effect sent these to the DPP. What happens next is not up to him. He is not Judge Dredd.

    I'd rather think of him as a judge which is what he is...

    The detection should be left to the detectives, ie the police...

    Correct process of law in a normal functioning democracy:

    Crime is committed.

    Police investigate and ascertain suspect.

    Suspect arrested.

    Police prepare file for DPP.

    DPP prosecutes suspect if evidence is strong enough.

    Judge and jury then adjudicate case.


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    #702
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Jayzus, I wouldn't have trusted the RUC to have investigated anything. The North has never been a normal functioning democracy.


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    #703
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    owenc wrote: »
    I'll think you'll find that there are other unionists on here from northern ireland too.;)

    Er...ok.


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    #704
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Er...ok.

    YEA there is, your going on as if i'm the only one and what the heck am i doing here.:rolleyes:


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    #705
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    owenc wrote: »
    YEA there is, your going on as if i'm the only one and what the heck am i doing here.:rolleyes:

    Just wondered why you'd choosed to discuss politics on a southern website.

    You're going to find a lot of opinions that you'll vehemently disagree with I'd assume.

    No doubt scoblaw will object to this too?


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    #706
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Just wondered why you'd choosed to discuss politics on a southern website.

    You're going to find a lot of opinions that you'll vehemently disagree with I'd assume.

    No doubt scoblaw will object to this too?

    Well there are no uk sites like this. Actually there are ones on here who agree with me alot.


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    #707
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    owenc wrote: »
    Well there are no uk sites like this. Actually there are ones on here who agree with me alot.
    There are lots of UK boards sites. You shouldn't have to leave though. You are no doubt welcome here, just like any unionists.


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    #708
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    owenc wrote: »
    Well there are no uk sites like this. Actually there are ones on here who agree with me alot.

    Indeed, don't get me wrong I've good friends who are strong Unionists from that background.

    Their head would be wrecked by a lot of the posts on here though so just wondered why you'd subject yourself to it or do you stay away from political threads?


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    #709
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    There are lots of UK boards sites. You shouldn't have to leave though. You are no doubt welcome here, just like any unionists.

    And no doubt i'd bang into some really bitter unionists who would take offence to friggen everything.:rolleyes: See the way the two unionists types split up lol.


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    #710
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Indeed, don't get me wrong I've good friends who are strong Unionists from that background.

    Their head would be wrecked by a lot of the posts on here though so just wondered why you'd subject yourself to it or do you stay away from political threads?

    Naw i just tell them to stop chatting about it, as it will end up in a row. and yes sometimes i feel like smashing their heads off. lol.


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    #711
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    There are lots of UK boards sites. You shouldn't have to leave though. You are no doubt welcome here, just like any unionists.

    In fairness nobody said anything about leaving!

    He has as much right to post on here as the next man...


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    #712
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Just wondered why you'd choosed to discuss politics on a southern website.

    You're going to find a lot of opinions that you'll vehemently disagree with I'd assume.

    No doubt scoblaw will object to this too?
    He's Irish and posting on a Irish website. Despite living in the north an awful lot of what is said here is relevent to him.


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    #713
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    He's Irish and posting on a Irish website. Despite living in the north an awful lot of what is said here is relevent to him.

    True...


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    #714
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    He's Irish and posting on a Irish website. Despite living in the north an awful lot of what is said here is relevent to him.

    I'm not irish how many bloody times have we argued about this.:rolleyes:


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    #715
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    owenc wrote: »
    I'm not irish how many bloody times have we argued about this.:rolleyes:

    You live on the island of Ireland - how could you possibly be Irish?? :rolleyes:


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    #716
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    You live on the island of Ireland - how could you possibly be Irish?? :rolleyes:

    Anoo like.


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    #717
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    And here we go again.


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    #718
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,792 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    You live on the island of Ireland - how could you possibly be Irish?? :rolleyes:
    In precisely the same way as any nationalist who lives in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is British.

    Any chance you'd stop baiting other posters and get back on topic?* Thanks.



    * Rhetorical question, don't answer.


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    #719
    Scofflaw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Hugo Drax wrote:
    You live on the island of Ireland - how could you possibly be Irish??
    In precisely the same way as any nationalist who lives in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is British.

    Any chance you'd stop baiting other posters and get back on topic?* Thanks.

    * Rhetorical question, don't answer.

    But do heed the warning. In addition, since you're new, and apparently didn't yet have time to read the Forum Charter, let me make the point that discussing moderation in thread isn't allowed. If you have problems with the moderation, you take it first to the CMods (myself and nesf).

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


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    #720
    Riddickcule
    Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Riddickcule


    I think the fate of this UI rests on what happens in Scotland.

    November of this year, Scots will go to the polls on wether they want to be independent or not. It's a hard poll to predict, personally I would love to see an independent Scotland one of my reasons is that I'm part scottish.

    Anyway if they do vote for it then I reckon that will be the catalyst for a UI. The union will probably crumble because then Wales will want it next, followed by NI.

    What amuses me most is that most english people dont even care about the union!


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    #721
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Riddickcule wrote: »
    I think the fate of this UI rests on what happens in Scotland.

    November of this year, Scots will go to the polls on wether they want to be independent or not. It's a hard poll to predict, personally I would love to see an independent Scotland one of my reasons is that I'm part scottish.

    Anyway if they do vote for it then I reckon that will be the catalyst for a UI. The union will probably crumble because then Wales will want it next, followed by NI.

    What amuses me most is that most english people dont even care about the union!

    That won't matter unionists will follow scottish people but not to a ui remember they are unionists and they want to keep the union! I don't think scotland will leave either. English people are the head of the union thats why.


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