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When & How could there be a united Ireland?

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    #662
    Wolfe Tone
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    What form do you think that closure should come in?
    I think the Bloody Sunday report s a very good start. I think more impartial things like that would be a good idea, investigating on both sides.

    I would like to see a clear sense of sorrow and regret on all sides. Then we can begin to have closure.

    I think Owen needs to wake up and learn that Santa Claus is a pedophile.(Norris on finding out about Britain's horrible past)


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    #663
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    I think the Bloody Sunday report s a very good start. I think more impartial things like that would be a good idea, investigating on both sides.

    I would like to see a clear sense of sorrow and regret on all sides. Then we can begin to have closure.

    I think Owen needs to wake up and learn that Santa Claus is a pedophile.(Norris on finding out about Britain's horrible past)

    huh?


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    #664
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    I think the Bloody Sunday report s a very good start. I think more impartial things like that would be a good idea, investigating on both sides.

    I would like to see a clear sense of sorrow and regret on all sides. Then we can begin to have closure.

    I think Owen needs to wake up and learn that Santa Claus is a pedophile.(Norris on finding out about Britain's horrible past)

    I think Owen needs to wake up and learn that Santa Claus is a pedophile.(Norris on finding out about Britain's horrible past)[/QUOTE] WTF?


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    #665
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    I think Owen needs to wake up and learn that Santa Claus is a pedophile.(Norris on finding out about Britain's horrible past)
    Obviously that reference was lost on some. Senator Norris, who had a great love for Britain, described finding out about Britain's barbaric past similar to being told Santa was a pedo.


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    #666
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Obviously that reference was lost on some. Senator Norris, who had a great love for Britain, described finding out about Britain's barbaric past similar to being told Santa was a pedo.

    Why would a Congolese have any particular affinity for England?


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    #667
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Obviously that reference was lost on some. Senator Norris, who had a great love for Britain, described finding out about Britain's barbaric past similar to being told Santa was a pedo.

    Ok would you just stop talking about the bloody past and concentrate on the future!


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    #668
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Why would a Congolese have any particular affinity for England?
    Better ask him. perhaps he is a colonial relic.


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    #669
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Better ask him. perhaps he is a colonial relic.

    On the phone to him now...

    Personally I think he's a great character.

    Hopefully our next Presidente...


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    #670
    Wolfe Tone
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    owenc wrote: »
    Ok would you just stop talking about the bloody past and concentrate on the future!
    I feel that wounds need to be healed on both sides before we can fully move on.

    One should never forget the past, lest we repeat it.


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    #671
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    I feel that wounds need to be healed on both sides before we can fully move on.

    One should never forget the past, lest we repeat it.

    Well they won't be healed so move on!:mad: How can you forgive someone whos killed thousands of people and will continue killing people.


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    #672
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    On the phone to him now...

    Personally I think he's a great character.

    Hopefully our next Presidente...
    He is an interesting one alright, I wont be voting form him though. There is a thread entitled "John Bruton for president" which has a nice debate on him in it.


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    #673
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    I feel that wounds need to be healed on both sides before we can fully move on.

    One should never forget the past, lest we repeat it.

    One mans healing is another mans hurt...


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    #674
    Wolfe Tone
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    owenc wrote: »
    Well they won't be healed so move on!:mad: How can you forgive someone whos killed thousands of people and will continue killing people.
    Some are in the process of healing already. Thats what the peace process is all about.


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    #675
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    He is an interesting one alright, I wont be voting form him though. There is a thread entitled "John Bruton for president" which has a nice debate on him in it.

    We've already had Brutal as Taoiseach, don't think we need him as President...


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    #676
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    One mans healing is another mans hurt...
    The Saville report is a good example of the process of healing, should that never had occurred?


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    #677
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    We've already had Brutal as Taoiseach, don't think we need him as President...
    As I said, there is another thread.


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    #678
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    We've already had Brutal as Taoiseach, don't think we need him as President...

    Is the teashock not the head of the country? (sorry canny be bothered to spell it.)


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    #679
    Wolfe Tone
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    owenc wrote: »
    Is the teashock not the head of the country? (sorry canny be bothered to spell it.)
    He is the prime minister so to speak, and the president is the head of state.


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    #680
    owenc
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    He is the prime minister so to speak, and the president is the head of state.

    o right.. thks


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    #681
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    He is the prime minister so to speak, and the president is the head of state.
    Yep, what mussolini said.


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    #682
    Hugo Drax
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    owenc wrote: »
    Is the teashock not the head of the country? (sorry canny be bothered to spell it.)

    Not exactly hard to spell online son, ever hear of copy and paste?


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    #683
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    The Saville report is a good example of the process of healing, should that never had occurred?

    Of course it should although I'd have preferred an independant UN investigation...

    Fox investigating the hen house never worked for me...

    Ditto the worst atrocity of the troubles - Dublin/Monaghan...


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    #684
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Of course it should although I'd have preferred an independant UN investigation...

    Fox investigating the hen house never worked for me...

    Ditto the worst atrocity of the troubles - Dublin/Monaghan...
    Indeed, but I felt that it was quite impartial and unbiased.


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    #685
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Indeed, but I felt that it was quite impartial and unbiased.

    Yes, the English Judiciary and the Conservative Party are renowned for that aren't they! :rolleyes:


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    #686
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Indeed, but I felt that it was quite impartial and unbiased.

    I think it may have looked that way compared to Widgery...


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    #687
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    I think it may have looked that way compared to Widgery...
    I suppose, most are happy with it though. myself included.


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    #688
    Hugo Drax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Hugo Drax


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    I suppose, most are happy with it though. myself included.

    Well if you're happy with a report which in essence declares nothing save that murder victims didn't deserve to actually be murdered and were innocent, without recommending prosecution of the murderers then good luck to you!


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    #689
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Well if you're happy with a report which in essence declares nothing save that murder victims didn't deserve to actually be murdered and were innocent, without recommending prosecution of the murderers then good luck to you!
    It is for the DPP or whomever to decide on the basis of the report if prosecutions are to happen.


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    #690
    Hugo Drax
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    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    It is for the DPP or whomever to decide on the basis of the report if prosecutions are to happen.

    Don't hold your breath Mussolini, those soldiers won't even have their promotions and medals rescinded much less face any sort of sanction never mind a prosecution!!


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    #691
    Wolfe Tone
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    Hugo Drax wrote: »
    Don't hold your breath Mussolini, those soldiers won't even have their promotions and medals rescinded much less face any sort of sanction never mind a prosecution!!
    Probably not,but that is not the fault of the report.


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