'Inception' Mega Thread *SPOILERS FROM POST 292 ONWARDS*

Fizman

Saw the late show of this in Storm Limerick on Friday night. It was due to start at 23:15 but didn't get going until 23:45 due to the queues. This was largely down to the lack of available ticket desks and slow staff mind.

Nevertheless, for a film almost 2hrs and 30 mins long, it felt like it was a 90 min film. It simply flew by and I thought it was a fantastic! I haven't said this about many films in the past but this certainly warrants being sat through a few more times! Great stuff.

Burning Eclipse

I know what I thought about the ending, but did anyone else find it telling that

Cobb doesn't wait to see if the totem stops spinning?

I think that says a lot.

Really delighted with this. I hadn't seen a trailer, didn't know about a single cast member except for DiCaprio (to the point of saying 'oh wow' when Cillian Murphy was revealed in picture form initially) and only found out last week that Nolan was the director. Expectations are always a bad thing. Not having any meant this had nothing to live up to and could be great in it's own right. Which it was

xtal191

quarryman wrote: »

so eh, yeah, this post is a load of shít.

Big deal he didnt like it, he's entiteled to his opinion!!

quarryman

xtal191 wrote: »

Big deal he didnt like it, he's entiteled to his opinion!!

Fair enough, but the idea that the Nolan created a complex film that the audience would say they liked so as not to appear like they didn't "get" it, is ridiculous.

chin_grin

This was the biggest load of pretentious existential drivel I've had the displeasure to sit through.

Before you start attacking me, I'm fully aware of the point this film made and that it was essentially

questioning what is real/content with living in a dream (the end....I should really put a question mark here as a result of the BS ending that was meant to be "oooh! It's sooooo clever!", but it's not).

But, for me, that just fell flat.

I never connected with the characters. I never cared if

Cobb sorted out his repressed guilt regarding his wife

. I never cared if he got to see his children. I never cared if any of them died. I never cared if they

implanted the thought.

I agree that it's original and clever in some scenes, but ground breaking and worthy of all this gushing praise it is not.

Earthhorse

Can someone clarify something for me? I think I saw something that no one else (as in, I'm mistaken about what I saw) did but I don't want to have to read the whole thread to find out (I read the last few pages and there's no reference to it).

When they're in the dream retrieving Fischer and Ellen Page kicks him off and he begins cascading through the levels, then she tells Cobb not to get caught down here and we see her cascading back through the levels; after that, when it goes back to Cobb holding his wife, is it not Ellen Page? I thought it was but three people I know who saw it didn't think so. I'm beginning to think I was mistaken but it looked like her to me.

johnny_ultimate

The most ridiculous rotten tomatoes blurb I've ever read:

Inception may have been directed by Christopher Nolan, but Nolan's dreams are apparently directed by Michael Bay.

From this clown

Everyone is welcome to make up their own mind on a film, but at least have frickin' logical reasons for it as opposed to just making nonsense comments about it.

Basq

What an incredible movie!

Christopher Nolan just continues to "wow" me.. yet another intelligent and very-well written film. With this and 'Toy Story 3'.. the Summer is shaping up quite nicely - though I don't have hope for much else.

I don't know why some people found it hard to understand.. it was an absolute breeze if you paid attention.

Cast were all great.. but Hardy, Levitt and DiCaprio were on fine form. And even Page (who gets an unfair amount of criticism) was very good.

On the ending:

ahh.. it's one of those endings I love, and I'd almost expect it from Nolan. I like to be able to come out from a dark cinema and be able to discuss a film, and not have everything tied up in a neat little bow.

As for what do I think? I honestly don't know.. as someone mentioned earlier, the cynic in me hopes it was real (as the top did look like it was tilting) but the realist in me thinks the situation with the kids (wearing the same clothes / looking roughly the same age as Cobb's memories) was a bit of a tell that something was definitely off. While we're on the topic.. did we ever learn how long Cobb has been away from his kids in the US? Was it established?

Nolan is an absolute utter genius. Following up TDK with something as intelligent and enjoyable as this, can he do no wrong?

I'd rewatch the 150 minute runtime again now if I could!

Earthhorse

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

From this clown

Everyone is welcome to make up their own mind on a film, but at least have frickin' logical reasons for it as opposed to just making nonsense comments about it.

Although I think the tone of the review is off I think a lot of the criticisms he touches on are valid.

Re: the ending.

Once Cobb explained that the spinning top was Mal's way of knowing she was still dreaming I guessed it would be the closing shot of the film. I didn't guess it would wobble or know what context would we see it spinning in though.

Earthhorse

Earthhorse wrote: »

When they're in the dream retrieving Fischer and Ellen Page kicks him off and he begins cascading through the levels, then she tells Cobb not to get caught down here and we see her cascading back through the levels; after that, when it goes back to Cobb holding his wife, is it not Ellen Page? I thought it was but three people I know who saw it didn't think so. I'm beginning to think I was mistaken but it looked like her to me.

I've done a Google and no one else is talking about this so I'm definitely wrong. Time to get my eyes checked.

ArtSmart

Well there are different forms of intelligence.
There's the intelligence of Shakespeare Beckett or Proust, then there's the fancy footwork cleverness intelligence of a movie like this.
to me, for a movie or anything to be called great, it must bring an element of enlightenment - a moment of 'omg! now i understand an important aspect of (my) existence I didn't before'
not 'omg, 'that's so clever!'

This is clever and is therefore watchable. But that's it.

johnny_ultimate

Earthhorse wrote: »

Although I think the tone of the review is off I think a lot of the criticisms he touches on are valid.

Re: the ending.

Once Cobb explained that the spinning top was Mal's way of knowing she was still dreaming I guessed it would be the closing shot of the film. I didn't guess it would wobble or know what context would we see it spinning in though.

Yeah some points are fair enough, but it comes across as so snarky and 'wanting to be different' that it really annoys me. As you say, it's the tone that makes it 'off'. It's one of those examples of sniping, better than thou critics (see also: Cosmo Landesman, who predictably gave the film two stars today) who give film criticism a bad name. The Michael Bay comparison irks me though - this is anything but a Michael Bay film. It's the antidote to his shallow, ideologically offensive trash, and anyone who compares Inception to one of his films doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. Plenty of other criticisms without needing to troll really!

Earthhorse

Yes, that's actually something I meant to say and why I included the quote you put in from the article. The comparison to Bay is OTT.

Snake Plisken

Again the clue is in the End credits with regards the ending

Phillipa & James are the children in Cobb's dream we never see their faces but when he had to flee America they are listed as Phillipa 3 years and James 20 months. The last scene with them in it Phillipa is now 5 years old and James is 3 years old 2 sets of actors play the kids. That says to me the ending was reality and the top was set to topple.

The Good news is that it took $60 Million in the states over the weekend so thats good news!

Also saw this in VUE and found the picture quality poor and out of focus which is really unacceptable for the main screen in the cinema.

Earthhorse

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Again the clue is in the End credits with regards the ending

Phillipa & James are the children in Cobb's dream we never see their faces but when he had to flee America they are listed as Phillipa 3 years and James 20 months. The last scene with them in it Phillipa is now 5 years old and James is 3 years old 2 sets of actors play the kids. That says to me the ending was reality and the top was set to topple.

That doesn't really tell us anything though, other than the kids had aged. There's nothing in the film that precludes this happening in a dream.

The Good news is that it took $60 in the states over the weekend so thats good news!

A whole $60? Happy days!

ArtSmart

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Again the clue is in the End credits with regards the ending

.

The Good news is that it took $60 in the states over the weekend so thats good news!

Also saw this in VUE and found the picture quality poor and out of focus which is really unacceptable for the main screen in the cinema.

Yeah but

the children were older on the phone call Cobb made at the start.

Snake Plisken

ArtSmart wrote: »

Yeah but

the children were older on the phone call Cobb made at the start.

Exactly!

He made the call before he took on the Inception job 2 years had still pass since the last time he had seen them remember most of the film took place over a 10 hour flight, probably planning etc took a month or two Kids would still be 2 years older on the phone

Earthhorse

ArtSmart wrote: »

Yeah but {SPOILER}

That's his point (I think).

Cobb made that phone call in reality, so when he meets the kids and they're older, it means he's in reality too. But it doesn't necessarily mean that because there's no reason they couldn't age in the dream. Also, we don't know the phonecall was, in fact, made in reality. We're dealing with an unreliable narrator here. We'll never know.

Pace2008

Best film I've seen in a long while.

The only disappointment for me was that the dreamscapes weren't as outlandish as I'd hoped. I thought nothing came close to the scene where Page was manipulating the scenery in Cobbs's dream in ways that were physically impossible in reality. It explained why this wasn't generally feasible (radical inconsistencies would draw the attention of the Projections), but I'd half expected the film to look like a moving Escher drawing. Having said that, to achieve the landscapes I have in mind would probably require a budget in the billions.

ArtSmart

Earthhorse wrote: »

That's his point (I think).

Cobb made that phone call )

Well that's probably my biggest prob with the film, no that you mention it.

Earthhorse

Hmmm? What is?

Miss Lockhart

I saw an interview where Dileep Rao said that:

You need to use your ears and not your eyes to get the final scene.

I think you can hear the totem fall just at the end, so I think it is reality.

I saw this film without knowing anything about it, except having seen the trailer on tv a couple of times. I absolutely loved it, and I'm finding it hard to think of a film I've enjoyed more in the last 5-10 years.

opr

The OP in this thread has a good post about the Totem and a really nice catch re the wedding ring.

http://www.nolanfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2227

Opr

Peyton Manning

Just occurred to me that Lukas Haas and Joseph Gordon Levitt shared screen time at the beginning of the movie for the first time since Brick

seraphimvc

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Again the clue is in the End credits with regards the ending

Phillipa & James are the children in Cobb's dream we never see their faces but when he had to flee America they are listed as Phillipa 3 years and James 20 months. The last scene with them in it Phillipa is now 5 years old and James is 3 years old 2 sets of actors play the kids. That says to me the ending was reality and the top was set to topple.

could be the children looks younger beside the beach scene and older(5 yrs old) in the garden.hmmmm

don ramo

superb film, dunno whats with all the spoiler tags

the ending is interpreted whatever way you want it to be, he set the totem spinning and i assume he would have to use hes thoughts to hold the totem up and keep it spinning, thus indication its a dream if it doesnt fall,

but when he set it spinning at the end he sees the kids and was so happy to finally be standing in the house and seeing his kids he just walked away from the totem, thus breaking his thoughts causeing the totum to fall anyhow,

i honestly cant draw a deffinate conclusion, i would like to think he got home, but at the same time fischer saw him taking his bag noticeing him as the guy who was suppose to be protecting him in his dream, wouldnt he realisitically know immediately he was tricked and do something about it,

the totem fell i know that much

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Also Starring LeVar Burton

Easily one of the greatest films ever made... I didn't want it to end and as soon as it was over I wanted to see it again...
Brilliant performances all around and I can't find any flaws...

10/10

Kiith

Went to see this last night....but it was sold out and i had to see Shrek 3D instead. Talk about being disappointed (not that Shrek was bad)

Anakin.S

Great movie, I watched it over the weekend with the other half.

Its a really good concept with a fantastic cast all of which really step up.

I loved the ending, It was really well done and I'm sure it will have people debating theories for a while.

Renn

It's good but jesus do some people like to go OTT on some of these movies. There's some plotholes in here for sure, along with some annoying characters (Hello Ellen Page), and the director constantly explaining to the audience as to what is going on - it's not confusing in the slightest and he's obviously been told to dumb it down a good bit...you even have Cobb basically explaining EVERYTHING at one point. Also, could do without Michael Caine, even if his role is minimal.

Enjoyed the score, the concept was a little bit meh (Nolan obviously realised half way through writing this that the whole dream/dying thing might not work), CGI was meh at times (just annoying when I know there's a bloody green screen being used) and the snow scene was truly tedious. Overall a 6 or 7.