'Inception' Mega Thread *SPOILERS FROM POST 292 ONWARDS*

trustno1

allanb49 wrote: »

I only know the bare outline of the story, its something i hate doing and just going on the hype cause i'm ultimatly let down.

Anyone else have the same feelings?

Prime example: I had seen the clips of Avatar and thought it looked sh*ite.. I then stupidly listened to everyone going on about about how fantastic it was, I caved, went to see it and hated it. The difference for me between Avatar and Inception is that you could leave your brain at home watching the telly while you went to see Avatar, whereas you need to pack it for Inception.

Cartman78

Have been waiting for this for a while - the American podcast I listen to have been going on about it for months.

Normally ignore trailers as a general rule, but have to say that the Inception trailer has lured me in hook, line and sinker. I think it's the music that does it....sounds to me like an updated version of the original Terminator theme

allanb49

I really didnt like Avatar, everyone else i know loved it and i remember months before thinking ok if Cameron can make the 3d part of the story make it useful and not a gimmick then sorted but it was balls and pretty boring,

I'm hoping i'll be proved wrong tonight though

Raekwon

trustno1 wrote: »

And I really don't understand why people are talking about 'people not getting it'... whats not to get?.. very straight forward plot - its just a case of keeping up!!..

You obviously didn't go with your girlfriend

trustno1

Raekwon wrote: »

You obviously didn't go with your girlfriend

No.. last time I looked I was not a lesbian!.. I actually went with my two kids (11 and 12) and even they 'got it'..

Raekwon

trustno1 wrote: »

No.. last time I looked I was not a lesbian!.. I actually went with my two kids (11 and 12) and even they 'got it'..

Do'h! Well I'm sure you will be surprised at the amount of people who didn't 'get it' or got lost in the plot or just plain hated it.

Handsome Bob

Absolutely brilliant film, Nolan once again raises the bar for a film genre. It goes beyond being a mere science fiction or action film where you are just going through the motions with little emotional pay off. I fully understand what Nolan meant when he said that he was struggling to find the emotional core for Inception. The plot really wouldn't have worked half as well if you didn't care for the characters so much. Can't praise it enough.

Tom Hardy was fantastic as well, really enjoyed his performance. The guy oozes on screen presence and charisma.

Orizio

allanb49 wrote: »

I really didnt like Avatar, everyone else i know loved it and i remember months before thinking ok if Cameron can make the 3d part of the story make it useful and not a gimmick then sorted but it was balls and pretty boring,

I'm hoping i'll be proved wrong tonight though

Cameron is a dreadful director, Nolan is a brilliant one - whats the problem?

rizzla

Just back from seeing it today. It's Perfect, no doubt I'll be going to see it again.

electrogrimey

Just saw it there, in all it's UGC Screen 17 glory. Brilliant. Definitely the best blockbuster type film I've seen in a very long time. I think one of the best parts is that I actually liked every one of the characters. There's normally at least one that infuriates you, but the casting was great.

Hope it gets the awards it deserves. The 2 and a half hours seemed to fly by, it's long, but it doesn't remotely drag on.

Vokes

I dunno - the film was pretty damn good, but after all the waiting and all the trailers, I was a bit underwhelmed by it all ....... I must've pysched myself up too much for it

I think I need to see it again asap.

Zimmers score is first class though!


EDIT/

Guess I should spoiler this question ....

How come Saito was an old man at the very end? Had he fallen into a 5th dream level, or something, where time lasts even longer?

Shred

Vokes wrote: »

I dunno - the film was pretty damn good, but after all the waiting and all the trailers, I was a bit underwhelmed by it all ....... I must've pysched myself up too much for it

The last film I did that for was the Dark Knight and I was actually a little disappointed with it when I finally got to see it (I do love it now but still prefer the 1st one)! I swore I'd never do that again and have kept previews/reviews to a bare minimum since.

Going to this in a few hours, looking forward to it, but not too much:p

bnt

Just back from seeing this now - pretty blown away, Can't wait for the deluxe DVD edition with all the "making-of" features. I'm wondering if they shot some scenes in

the Vomit Comet

. :pac:

Vokes wrote: »

How come Saito was an old man at the very end? Had he fallen into a 5th dream level, or something, where time lasts even longer?

This is something that bothers me slightly. The movie explanation from earlier is that Saito got stuck in "limbo", because he "died" before the "kick" on the 3rd level, the mountain hideout. Cobb didn't know about that - he wasn't "there" when it happened, he had already gone to the 4th dream level, the one fashioned totally from his memories. The implication seems to be that Cobb spent another 50 years in limbo there with Mal after Ariadne left, therefore Saito aged in Cobb's memory, and he somehow had to get Saito "out" before he could get "out" himself. But that doesn't answer the question I have about how Cobb in limbo knew Saito was also in limbo, or how the two "limbos" connected. Could the "sleep machine" do that?

I have another question re the timelines:

If the guys slept for 10 hours on the plane, then (as pointed out by Cobb), then that corresponds to about a week at the 1st level (rainy LA), and correspondingly longer at higher levels. But the action at the 1st level took a few hours of time there: they got Fischer, holed up for a bit, then had to cut their plans short, break out in the van and go off the bridge. I suppose we can explain this away by saying they didn't dream for all 10 hours they slept.

El Horseboxo

Went to see this earlier blind to all reviews and trailers and was completely blown away. A brilliant and intelligent film with some great acting. Really good pacing and the 2 and a half hours never began to feel long. Although what bnt has mentioned above is something i didn't quite get. There were some young kids in my showing. I can only wonder what was going through their heads trying to follow it.

Handsome Bob

El Horseboxo wrote: »

I can only wonder what was going through their heads trying to follow it.

Fcuk them to be honest, every other Summer movie is geared at them! :mad: :pac:

bnt

A bit more thinking on my previous answer as I remember more:

didn't Cobb get "killed" on the 4th level, thus getting kicked back to the 3rd level with Ariadne? They washed up on the beach together. That's the level where Saito was stuck, which explains how they could meet, but does that mean Cobb got stuck in limbo there? So, much later ... he washes up on the beach again, without Ariadne (who was "kicked" along with the others), and is dragged before Saito. Argh! I'm going to have to read more spoilers.

johnny_ultimate

Just back from this, and I think Christopher Nolan has just reclaimed the summer blockbuster.

It's probably full of plotholes, pop psychology and narrative conveniences, but **** it, Inception is a great, great film. It's the first time in a while a Hollywood films has kept me glued to the screen for the entirety.

Going to write up an in-depth review now, but initial reactions are pretty damn positive.

allanb49

Yeah, i was wrong again, Great Movie. Go see it if you're hemming and hawing

parker kent

allanb49 wrote: »

I only know the bare outline of the story, its something i hate doing and just going on the hype cause i'm ultimatly let down.

Anyone else have the same feelings?

I was much happier not knowing any of the plot before I watched it. I hate knowing massive amounts of the plot before watching a film as it ruins the natural surprises. Have to say I'm delighted I managed to avoid reviews or any information about this until today.

It.Blew.Me.Away Brilliant. Nolan is just incredible.

phasers

The hotel fight scene was absolutely breathtaking I thought.


Brilliant film, had me gripped the entire time. Although Ellen Page's character pissed me off no end.

Also at the end of the film when

the top didn't stop spinning

, the whole cinema groaned in unison :pac:

johnny_ultimate

phasers wrote: »

Also at the end of the film when

the top didn't stop spinning

, the whole cinema groaned in unison :pac:

Yeah same here, it was one of those great cinema going moments that really make it worth seeing the film with a crowd.

The ending could be considered frustrating, but given what has come before it's entirely apt. Perhaps the only way the film could end. Totally agree on the hotel fight, I genuinely feel it is one of the greatest set pieces I've seen in a film

yayamark

Just home from watching it

Leaving the cinema i thought i understood it.

Reading here... **** me havent a clue.... was totally lost.

Might just sleep on it


Maybe a dream will sort it out, all depends what level i go to.

Just as long as i wake up for work in the morning.

spiritcrusher

phasers wrote: »

Also at the end of the film when

the top didn't stop spinning

, the whole cinema groaned in unison :pac:

I'll spoiler the lot for easiness' sake.

Ha! Same at the showing I saw! Probably the best way to end it I think really considering that since the sixth sense a lot of people would be wary of similar endings.
Amazing film on all accounts I think. The sense of the different rates of time passing was done fantastically, I thought. The glimpses of the van falling into the river every so often created some crackin' tension.
Also that they resisted the urge to rescuing Cobb from the water was great, considering the level of dreaming he was in probably made one second about a week!

Liathroidi Dana

Best Film I have ever seen!

Seriously amazing!

The little touchs are what I think made it so good. Will have to go see this again soon...

gamby

bnt wrote: »

Just back from seeing this now - pretty blown away, Can't wait for the deluxe DVD edition with all the "making-of" features. I'm wondering if they shot some scenes in

the Vomit Comet

. :pac:

This is something that bothers me slightly. The movie explanation from earlier is that Saito got stuck in "limbo", because he "died" before the "kick" on the 3rd level, the mountain hideout. Cobb didn't know about that - he wasn't "there" when it happened, he had already gone to the 4th dream level, the one fashioned totally from his memories. The implication seems to be that Cobb spent another 50 years in limbo there with Mal after Ariadne left, therefore Saito aged in Cobb's memory, and he somehow had to get Saito "out" before he could get "out" himself. But that doesn't answer the question I have about how Cobb in limbo knew Saito was also in limbo, or how the two "limbos" connected. Could the "sleep machine" do that?

I have another question re the timelines:

If the guys slept for 10 hours on the plane, then (as pointed out by Cobb), then that corresponds to about a week at the 1st level (rainy LA), and correspondingly longer at higher levels. But the action at the 1st level took a few hours of time there: they got Fischer, holed up for a bit, then had to cut their plans short, break out in the van and go off the bridge. I suppose we can explain this away by saying they didn't dream for all 10 hours they slept.

i'm fairley confused by similar parts..it easy to get but there are still bits that need far more thinking....

I'm also not sure how cobb didnt age in the film but Saito did.... from above... Cobb knew Saito was going to die and that he would end up in limbo and have to find him in limbo which is (i'm not 100% on but i remember Ariadne saying something about) bits of Cobbs previous dreams... ah man???? wtf and if it was 50years how much longer was cobb dreaming?
the maths of it was got me thinkin most... if 5 mins in reality is an hour in dream level 1 does that make 5mins in reality 12hrs level 2, 144 level 3 etc... makin it by my random calculations on the plane, 2hrs would be the 50years if cobb was stuck in level 4.... someone clear this up!! is that how it works???? wtf love that im still thinkin bout it

What a film

speedboatchase

Best movie of all time? I love Nolan too but... I don't think The Matrix has anything to worry about, and I do think The Dark Knight, Memento, possibly even The Prestige were superior.

That said, damn - I really wish I had enjoyed this as much as everyone else above. Was expecting to not 'get' the movie from reading a lot of reviews but I made sure I didn't have to pee, gave my full attention and was ready to be blown away. Now first off - incredibly shot, amazing performances (loved Tom Hardy and Joseph-Gordon Levitt), and a smart script that didn't down to its audience and actively challenged them. However, I still had problems:

1. The idea of dreams-within-dreams, and then dreams-within-dreams-within-dreams is a complex but intriguing idea, but I do feel Nolan overstretched himself - as the movie's ideas and dream concepts became more complex, the exposition grew, and I felt grew at the expense of character development (didn't see any aside from Leo) genuine conflict, and humour.

2. The mission inside Cillian's sub-conscious comes too early in the movie, and makes the audience feel we've entered the third act of the film. Since there's around an hour left, I felt these moments dragged - the constant shots of the truck slightly falling closer to the water veered on the comical towards the end, as their repetition meant I felt zero suspense. Walking out of the cinema a lot of people seemed to think the movie dragged - I suspect word of mouth may not be altogether positive, particularly from people that aren't pay attention or were dragged to the movie by their other halves.

3. This is no Matrix, at least for me - the stakes weren't high enough and there was no protagonist, every character was a shade of gray and the 'villains' in Cillian's subconscious were basically video game characters, devoid of any characterisation and just waiting for a bullet to the head. The snow set piece was lacking punch because for this reason, and reminded me of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 all too often.

4. It wasn't the movie that was sold to us - all of the 'money shots' of the trailer were entirely superfluous and had nothing to do with actual set pieces or moments of peril - bar Levitt's fight, which was admittedly incredible. The movie I felt, could've been made with a little less flash for half the budget - it was maybe the most expensive art house move ive ever seen. A lot of people will praise this, and it is great to see a smart big-budget action movie, but this was a bait-and-switch movie from the marketing team I felt

Anyways that's all I can think of right now. It was very admirable movie, and I'm happy I saw it, but I don't think that knowing and getting the concepts of the movie now, I'd want to see through it again, or buy the DVD. Again, I could be completely way off but I absolutely gave Inception a chance and just came away slightly disappointed

BopNiblets

Excellent film!
And somewhat ironically my friend beside me fell asleep! Ha.
He was really tired, not bored I hope.

Shred

Superb flick, gripping from start to finish pretty much and looking forward to seeing it again with the wife next time.

Jako8

I really really enjoyed it. I'm too tired to write any more. Saw this and predators tonight so...

Also my friend raised the point that

the old man was Cobb. I can't really see how that makes sense yet, I'll have to think about it more.

jayjay2010

I have to say, this has got to be the most CONFUSING movie I've ever watched. Diddnt understand a THING. I went toilet about 30 mins in and after that I had no idea what was going on.

My friend has just explained to me the storyline from the start and its starting to make sense.

It'll take me 2-3 watches to understand it fully!!