Shape shifting alien reptiles

mysterious

Sparticle wrote: »

Anyone considering the possibility that the axes are ornamental?

If someone were to dig up our civilization in four thousand years and find a huge ball of twine that does not mean there were giant cats.

:rolleyes:

Mahatma coat

those axes are a bit misleading tho with the stupidly large handles, its not unfeasible that they were swun in anger by Seasoned warrioirs, albeit with more manageable handles. O could show you some of the single head Axes in the timber museums here in Australia that would be around the same size and weight ( at a guess) as those smaller ones in the photo, and these were used less than 100 years ago.

there are advantages to using a large Axehead in a long handle, which is wht Woodsmen were generally considered a tough breed of men, with many Giant legends even within recent human memory.

humanji

Sparticle wrote: »

Anyone considering the possibility that the axes are ornamental?

If someone were to dig up our civilization in four thousand years and find a huge ball of twine that does not mean there were giant cats.

I think that might make a little too much sense.

That said, if you go to any museum of medieval arms and armour, you'll find swords of monumental size that were sometimes brought into battle as a way to scare the enemy. All in all, it's not proof of giants, just proof that once, long ago, someone made large axe heads.

Emme

mysterious wrote: »

It's why we are so universal and exotic to most races out there. Look at how diverse and racially different we look yet "one race and one species"

Equines - horses, donkeys and everything in between are also incredibly diverse in size, ability, colour and marking. For example, take a grey Shetland pony and a chestnut racehorse.

Canines are also diverse - you have the Paris Hilton handbag dogs at one end of the scale and then at the other you have grey wolves who live in the wild.

In another post you say that pigs are the result of a cross between a man and a boar. A boar is a male pig. Maybe you're thinking of wild boars but like equines and canines there's diversity in the porcine world.

I won't believe in alien reptilian shapeshifters until I see one metamorphose from human to lizard in front of my eyes - BTW lounge lizards which can be found in Dublin's more upmarket bars don't count!:D

Brendog

Are you being serious?? Because this topic sounds exactly like that show "V"......same basis, giant spacecrafts land on all the major cities of the world and the aliens turn out to be other humans from anohter galaxy in need of water to sustain themselves. Turns out they are REPTILES who cover themselves in human tissue. Kinda like the Terminator.

Torakx

I saw a couple of hours ago a clip from soem news sites and youtube thatscientists in japan have crossed the genes of a jellyfish with small monkies to create green glow in the dark monkies.They reckon the gene splicing using harmless viruses to plant it will help to later figure a way to breed out genetic defaults in humans like parkinsons etc.
I had always thought those diseases were enviornmental ^^

mysterious

Brendog wrote: »

Are you being serious?? Because this topic sounds exactly like that show "V"......same basis, giant spacecrafts land on all the major cities of the world and the aliens turn out to be other humans from anohter galaxy in need of water to sustain themselves. Turns out they are REPTILES who cover themselves in human tissue. Kinda like the Terminator.

Yes we are been serious, welcome to the real world, beyond the illusions of this matrix, of work, eat McDonalds, watch T.V and drink beer.

They put those shows on T.V to trick your mind and put the truth in front of you so you dont connect this with reality.

Torakx

mysterious wrote: »

Yes we are been serious, welcome to the real world, beyond the illusions of this matrix, of work, eat McDonalds, watch T.V and drink beer.

They put those shows on T.V to trick your mind and put the truth in front of you so you dont connect this with reality.

I totally agree they do this quite alot.So much so that even a well researched person has trouble telling which is their lies and which is truth hidden in plain sight.I dont trust many sources of info at all.Cant actually think of any reliable ones off the top of my head that i would trust.
Especially if one day i see on the news aliens are real i will be highy skeptical of that indeed.Mainly because there appears to be an effort to make out they are real yet the only "evidence" ive seen so far for myself is NASA footage that maybe was released to be used as propoganda to fuel the "truth movement" and create a left versus right situation kinda like in politics in the states.
I personally dont see any reason why shape shifting reptillian aliens are anywhere near earth.
If i see a UFO i will be identifying it as a government advanced air vehicle and not aliens.
Your best bet is to try build a massive cloud buster and wait and see if any alien ships get sucked in or come investigate the fluctuations in Orgone

K-9

mysterious wrote: »

Yes we are been serious, welcome to the real world, beyond the illusions of this matrix, of work, eat McDonalds, watch T.V and drink beer.

They put those shows on T.V to trick your mind and put the truth in front of you so you dont connect this with reality.

Does Scientology use this type of diverting tactics to hard questions?

Seems very cultish to me.

Torakx

Tbh i didnt see much diversion there.One cheapish comment calls forth another in most cases and i happen to agree that alot of stuff is put in plain sight mixed in with alot of fiction to hide which is real and which isnt.
That leaves us either following CT's here and there trying to sift through them or rely on mainstream media to base our reality off.
Both sources are packed full of liars so imo its all good.People can believe in god, people can believe in shape shifting aliens.I see more evidence of aliens and less for God as it is known as for what its worth.
Its interesting to put it in perspective.
There are people out there that actually believe including myself during my ignorant days(forgive me all religious people it my personal oppinion of how i was veruss my current stance) that there is a god watching us, is omnipresent and can hear all our prayers if we use the right words(through jesus name is the last code for the transmission) the signal appears to reach this god and he supposedly listens to these prayers,does nothing about it and is still considered a loving god worth worshipping for a very long time.
So although i dont quite believe in aliens being on this planet in league with governments i dont think it crazy for others to believe it to be so.I have believed much crazier things in the past on less evidence so im not gonna judge lol
For those putting hate on people who have very different beliefs i thinks its a good reminder that most of the world at soem stages has been believing some crazy things too so hating these theories and dissing the posters theories is kinda like self hate or nihilism...which i could also understand

thecommander

mysterious wrote: »

Yes we are been serious, welcome to the real world, beyond the illusions of this matrix, of work, eat McDonalds, watch T.V and drink beer.

They put those shows on T.V to trick your mind and put the truth in front of you so you dont connect this with reality.

Same ****, different thread. Anything new to add to the discussion?

mysterious

thecommander wrote: »

Same ****, different thread. Anything new to add to the discussion?

What an intellegent well mannered reply. Why are you here if you can't control yourself or handle other people's views on the actual reality we are discussing. Other people can seem to discuss this reasonably well.

It's your problem not mine.:)

Nick Dolan

Right well the idea of the "mainstream " media being wholly out there to trick is wrong, flat out. Many organisations have slants and angles and thats infact why they arent all in league with each other. And where have CTers learned their hidden insights?......the Media! But my main gripe is the last posters view thats it isnt crazy or harmless to believe in CTs because ive just recently been arguing the same thing with a friend of mine. He shrugged and said "so what" and i kept saying that no, its not ok. Like the people trying to spread 2012 paranoia. Its a non event cooked up to sell books but how many people are hearing all this stuff and getting worried? Same with the shape shifting aliens baloney, someone somewhere is getting scared silly and maybe even worse some dude is cleaning a gun somewhere, cos he reckons that wierd dude down the street is an alien, and he has to defend his planet.

Torakx

I just think that the attitude some people have to others here is ignorant when we consider the stuff that people have believed through history.
We cant stop people believing propoganda or rumours just as much as we cant stop them believing the truth if thats is where they happen to stand.
It is how it is and trying to force people to change their belief system through critic will not work.
I tend to take another route and hope to meet people half way so that at least there is some balance in both our insanities or sanities whichever may be the case.
As for the guy down the road keeping his gun loaded or being intensely paranoid about rumours that is his perogative and i think if he is to take things such as this topic so much to heart that he would chance risking other lives or his own happyness then he will just as quickly eat up all other propoganda that is naturally spreading across the internet due to many different agendas of people.
Since icant stop the spread of propoganda i decided to at least entertain peoples views and keep an open mind.After all if it is acceptable to the majority to believe in God then it should be just as acceptable to believe in an alien species.
The only difference for me is that the aliens theory in general is more plausible to me than the god theory in general.
Most likely if there is a creator of man it is something in between the two and thats ussually where i like to stand right on the fence hehe

Also i have the idea in my head that making good relations with other people creates an atmosphere between the two on a sub-conscious level that allows them to accept what i have to say more so than someone who does not feel they are on the same "level" as me.
I happen to get this effect more with "ct'ers" i think because they are ussually more openminded and easier to get along with in general because of this.
Not that all the posters here who dont post CT's are on the opposite scale of things,just that the people who post ct's allow me to support them and build relations but the ones heavily criticising me or others do not leave themselves open for good relations which could help them get their points across to people better.

Nick Dolan

I see a huge difference between open minded and criticaly minded.I dont think we should be thinking "hey maybe your right" to stuff, we should always be thinking "Prove it!". And of course theres a difference between people interested in the various CTs and guys who go out trying to convince people not to vaccinate there kids, or guys who go out to con you into buying their Shapeshifter book. You are saying the same points my friend said, so what if people believe crazy things, if they aint hurting nobody. Whereas I was arguing that untrue beliefs (such as there are lizard aliens among us) do cause harm. I won the debate and he gave in, but that was the only way he could get to shut me up and stop boring him

TalkieWalkie

I have though a lot recently about the differences between CT'rs and skeptics. CT'rs = the glass is half full, in my opinion.
I have come to the conclusion that skeptics are afraid or simply cant handle the truth and their denial is simply a coping mechanism.
And the truth is...
We now know we are born into dept, this dept can never be repaid, this dept is not even real, it's a fabrication, yet we work our whole lives trying to repay it. We believe we are free right ?
How can we be free is we are born into debt ? How can we be free is there is a tax on our flesh and blood ? A tax just for being born...
This is enslavement...
This is factual information, there is no CT here, it's a fact
Yet skeptics say this is not a matrix "your nutz" etc
ya gotta laugh

It is the awake and aware, the Sovereign souls and the open minds and hearts who will take us to the next level.
The fearful, stupid, ignorant slave will never move on because he is comfortable... as long as he has his little distracting toys like tv, xbox and porno mags/vids.

Now I'm not saying the all skeptics are stupid ignorant fools living in fear and denial.... only about 99% are

Torakx

Nick Dolan wrote: »

I see a huge difference between open minded and criticaly minded.I dont think we should be thinking "hey maybe your right" to stuff, we should always be thinking "Prove it!". And of course theres a difference between people interested in the various CTs and guys who go out trying to convince people not to vaccinate there kids, or guys who go out to con you into buying their Shapeshifter book. You are saying the same points my friend said, so what if people believe crazy things, if they aint hurting nobody. Whereas I was arguing that untrue beliefs (such as there are lizard aliens among us) do cause harm. I won the debate and he gave in, but that was the only way he could get to shut me up and stop boring him

Hehe just because your friend saw no way to convince you rationally of his point doesnt mean you won the arguement
I have a friend who likes to argue any point i care to make on any subject(even if he doesnt believe what he is saying as long as its opposite of what i just said),sometimes he will sayone thing and a week later will agree with the thing he argued against.So i will mostly just stop talking and wait for him to finish talking AT me.An arguement isnt a discussion imo.When people refuse to even allow you to talk in my case i just concede to dissagree without explaining to them why, as its sometimes pointless.
Im sure your not that bad but it shows two types of people.Those who have a strong need to impress their views on others and those who can accept that they cannot fix everyone.
Besides that i think variety is the spice of life.
And to be perfectly honest i would much much more love to sit in a pub and chat to people who believe in aliens and ct's etc than people who appear to argue about anything that does not fit into their reality.
It took me a while but eventually i accepted i cant know everything and its possible others are right and i am wrong.
thats what an open minded person is to me.They dont have to be open to believing what your saying,but just open minded enough todiscuss the possibilities in a rational calm manor.
I still believe doing this helps keeping a discussion from turning into an arguement which imo creates a defense in the other person which prevents them from agreeing with the agressor.
Im not spiteful or ever angry at my friend because i totally understand why this happens.I just cant stop it from happening when it does and it prevents alot of good discussions
You are right about people goign out talking about vacinnes etc i am kind of wary of this because while i myself would not accept any flu shot or vacinne now i would not advise my sister to not get a vacinne for her baby because there is a chance i may be wrong and i dont take chances.
So i can see you point for sure.I just think we cannot stop everyone from doing this..but i believe my point still stands that should you wish to my comments contain the ideas or frame of mind to at least make that job easier.
When you come across somebody with an irational ideology a rational ideology isnt going to be agreeable in many cases,so another tactic is needed.Think of it as undermining in a caring way

mysterious

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

I have though a lot recently about the differences between CT'rs and skeptics. CT'rs = the glass is half full, in my opinion.
I have come to the conclusion that skeptics are afraid or simply cant handle the truth and their denial is simply a coping mechanism.
And the truth is...
We now know we are born into dept, this dept can never be repaid, this dept is not even real, it's a fabrication, yet we work our whole lives trying to repay it. We believe we are free right ?
How can we be free is we are born into debt ? How can we be free is there is a tax on our flesh and blood ? A tax just for being born...
This is enslavement...
This is factual information, there is no CT here, it's a fact
Yet skeptics say this is not a matrix "your nutz" etc
ya gotta laugh

It is the awake and aware, the Sovereign souls and the open minds and hearts who will take us to the next level.
The fearful, stupid, ignorant slave will never move on because he is comfortable... as long as he has his little distracting toys like tv, xbox and porno mags/vids.

Now I'm not saying the all skeptics are stupid ignorant fools living in fear and denial.... only about 99% are

Alot of Skeptics are in denial, like "!most" people. it's not just to skeptics. I think 99% of people are just in denial about reality. Look at the world de-Nial..

Every hear of a river flow backwards. I haven't. But most people would rather believe that illusion than face reality.:D

No no, it can't be, it just can't be real oh no. Run.

K-9

I don't know. Maybe in Ireland, because of the Catholic Church, we are more skeptic here?

We will not believe stuff without some evidence for it? Some man on the Internet doesn't really cut it!

Nick Dolan

Nope its CTers (And thats a very large umbrella term) who cant handle ordinar, non- exciting thruth. They need something dramatic and explosive, a huge plan that only they are smart enough to see. A sceptic needs some proper compelling evidence before he swallows some of the outthere stuff. For instance whats the proof for the whole lizard people thing beside someones eye twitching on a video.

espinolman

Nick Dolan wrote: »

For instance whats the proof for the whole lizard people thing beside someones eye twitching on a video.

Were they not here in Ireland and did saint patrick not drive them out !

mysterious

Nick Dolan wrote: »

Nope its CTers (And thats a very large umbrella term) who cant handle ordinar, non- exciting thruth. They need something dramatic and explosive, a huge plan that only they are smart enough to see. A sceptic needs some proper compelling evidence before he swallows some of the outthere stuff. For instance whats the proof for the whole lizard people thing beside someones eye twitching on a video.

What are you on about?:D

Seriously dude, there is more to reality than, just the monotone, CNN and what the governments say. Seriously like. You don't have to be a C.Ter to know this. The proof is out there and the truth is out there, you need to start been responsible for it. Does that make it any more obvious to you?

"Compelling evidence"
Good hard massive facts"
"solid proof of this"
"constructive evidence"

This kind of crap is like trying to measure the density of this room. Find out what's real and stop depending on others. Most of all please stop blaming a group of people for your real lack of research into topics you know nothing about. It makes you look more silly than anyone your judging.

caseyann

K-9 wrote: »

I don't know. Maybe in Ireland, because of the Catholic Church, we are more skeptic here?

We will not believe stuff without some evidence for it? Some man on the Internet doesn't really cut it!

Its called been conditioned,only what you are told is logic is logic.Other wise you are on the outside of the box,and to step out of that box means to those still in the box you are irrational and wrong.Same as you are conditioned to work everyday and eat everyday,buy the clothes in the shop everyday.Live in the box

Torakx

With all these new age movement groups i think there has been purposefully added too much crap inside the box so wether you are on the outside or the inside of "the box" it is very hard to discern what is going on for sure.
Already we had too much mainstream crap.Its just over the top in the last 50 years now.

K-9

Fair enough, as long as you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Nick Dolan

Well i dont want to drag this thread down the old CT vs non CT mud slinging route, so ill just disagree with the "think outside the box" sentiments.

More Reptile stuff please. From what ive heard its David Ickes way of selling books

mugs1

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

I have though a lot recently about the differences between CT'rs and skeptics. CT'rs = the glass is half full, in my opinion

Believing the World is born into slavery and we are all f***ed because the world is controlled by shapeshifting lizards who eat our Babies, doesn't sound like a very "class is half full" mentallity to me!

mysterious

mugs1 wrote: »

Believing the World is born into slavery and we are all f***ed because the world is controlled by shapeshifting lizards who eat our Babies, doesn't sound like a very "class is half full" mentallity to me!

Oh god......:rolleyes: What's normal? Everything you don't know or understand I guess?:rolleyes:

Zombienosh

mysterious wrote: »

Oh god......:rolleyes: What's normal? Everything you don't know or understand I guess?:rolleyes:

shhh, gladiators is on tv
Go back to sleep.

bonkey

mysterious wrote: »

Oh refresh my memory Bonkey;) I don't waste my time "trying" to prove to you what exist or doesn't. Not what I'm here for.

I didn't ask you to prove anything, mysterious.

I commented that you were unwilling or unable to produce evidence.

Have you any evidence against it?

Nope. I've got no evidence against Hogwarts really existing as a school of Wizardry, either, nor against Santa, nor against invisible pink unicorns living at the bottom of my garden.

In fact, there are is an infinite (used literally, not figuratively) number of things I don't have evidence against.

I'm open to considering any of them to be actually possible....but I don't consider someone making a claim along the lines of of "<something> is true" to be an indication that it might be. Their reasoning for believing it to be true could be an indication. The evidence that led them to believe it to be true could also be.

To date, you, haven't provided either. I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that the last time you made a claim about giants, you also didn't provide either.

I will post pictures on what I'm pointing on when I get my laptop. I'm not on it at the moment, so you will have to wait for that.

That would be really cool.